More bailout please....

AD_ward9 · 23rd June 2006, 17:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

I am constantly amazed how the rest of the world can be so wrong and only I can see the truth

ATB

Mark Chase

To get 11 green blobs, you have more than 5000 pal points. This means that a lot of people have had to agree with you, or you found some scam. Given only 650 posts that is not bad.

I agree completely with your post on this thread, the bottom line of which is that only nutters use Al80s (

You can tell why I have so little green when I can offend so many people in one go like that

). I never could figure why people buy Al80s

. That also applies to 95% of the dive kit out there. You know, everything from contents gauges that have a water temperature needle to confuse folk like me into running out of gas, to SMBs that one has to blow up by mouth, to non-DIN fittings, etc, etc.

Alex

Mark Chase · 24th June 2006, 12:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by Timbo)

sorry Mark i do not understand your post

Just havin a laugh M8, vote stands at 40 for Al80s and 3 for steel so looks like I am in a very small minority on this one

Tried the 80s and just cant figue out what people see in them.

ATB

Mark Chase

Mdemon · 24th June 2006, 13:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by nmanfield)

Totally agree with you, IWR is always the last option IMHO, but there may be times that it should be considered a viable option (and not an excuse for poorly planned bailout strategy).

IWR is my first strategy. If you want to come to the surface, suck O2 at 1 bar, hang around for a chopper, suck O2 whilst at <1bar then get into a pot to take hyperbaric O2 and He then fine by me.

I on the other hand want hyperbaric O2 and He asap, preferably before any more damage is done, to treat whatever it is I've damaged. Because the damage is permanent. Having used IWR successfully, I'm happy to do so again.

I used ali80's and Mark is right; they are total bastards out of the water. I do like the way you can float them behind you under the water though.

***caveseeker7*** · 24th June 2006, 15:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by AD_ward9)

To get 11 green blobs, you have more than 5000 pal points. This means that
a lot of people have had to agree with you, or you found some scam. Given
only 650 posts that is not bad.

While Mark is doing pretty well with blobs, but he isn't doing that well.
No one has reached the 5000 points yet afaIk.
I haven't even half as many and neither has he.

By the way, when you will finally get us the 15 kg, 5 hrs, $5000, failsafe,
foolproof CCR you'll likely be the first to reach the 5000 points just for telling
us about and where to buy it (if you spread to two threads

).

AD_ward9 · 26th June 2006, 07:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

While Mark is doing pretty well with blobs, but he isn't doing that well.
No one has reached the 5000 points yet afaIk.
I haven't even half as many and neither has he.

Stuart advises that the vanity points run as 10,50,200,400,600,800,1000,1500,2000,3000,5000 and they have not been changed for a long time. If there is offset of 1, this means Mark has 3000 points. No offset, 5000 points.

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

By the way, when you will finally get us the 15 kg, 5 hrs, $5000, failsafe,
foolproof CCR you'll likely be the first to reach the 5000 points just for telling us about and where to buy it (if you spread to two threads

).

Ah ha! Proof that the blob system is not just pure voting!

And there was me just running for the DEMA that Brent had been so good to propose...

Cheers

Alex

***schford*** · 26th June 2006, 19:22

Mark has 1718 I should have pointed out that it actually starts at 0 I guess

Hang on this makes it easier to explain...... ;-)

AD_ward9 · 27th June 2006, 10:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

... has 1718 I should have pointed out that it actually starts at 0 I guess

Hang on this makes it easier to explain...... ;-)

So, how does 1718 pal points equate to 11 blobs? Is this counting to Base 9? If so, very clever

...

Alex

Mark Chase · 27th June 2006, 14:41

Oh for christ sake I was only having a laugh, and now look at the state of this thread.

I reckon you lot are just anal enough to be ideal CCR divers

ATB

Mark Chase

Timbo · 27th June 2006, 16:32

I do not know how many blobs i have. On the other hand I do know how much bailout i carry

.

db8us · 27th June 2006, 17:18

I am another dude that does not know, how much blobs he has, but i know exactly the amount of bailout-gas.
If possible enough to exit all the way and also deco on OC.

About the blobs, since i do not believe in heart-attacks as the major risk of breather-diving and i do not glorify breathers, but see them just as a tool, i will NEVER get more blobs here :-)

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23rd June 2006, 17:50	#31 (permalink)
AD_ward9 So much more to learn Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,732	Re: More bailout please.... Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) I am constantly amazed how the rest of the world can be so wrong and only I can see the truth ATB Mark Chase To get 11 green blobs, you have more than 5000 pal points. This means that a lot of people have had to agree with you, or you found some scam. Given only 650 posts that is not bad. I agree completely with your post on this thread, the bottom line of which is that only nutters use Al80s ( You can tell why I have so little green when I can offend so many people in one go like that ). I never could figure why people buy Al80s . That also applies to 95% of the dive kit out there. You know, everything from contents gauges that have a water temperature needle to confuse folk like me into running out of gas, to SMBs that one has to blow up by mouth, to non-DIN fittings, etc, etc. Alex Last edited by AD_ward9 : 23rd June 2006 at 18:04.
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24th June 2006, 12:59	#32 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,556	Re: More bailout please.... Quote: (Originally Posted by Timbo) sorry Mark i do not understand your post Just havin a laugh M8, vote stands at 40 for Al80s and 3 for steel so looks like I am in a very small minority on this one Tried the 80s and just cant figue out what people see in them. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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24th June 2006, 13:27	#33 (permalink)
Mdemon SiegeEngine II Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SWUK Posts: 1,904	Re: More bailout please.... Quote: (Originally Posted by nmanfield) Totally agree with you, IWR is always the last option IMHO, but there may be times that it should be considered a viable option (and not an excuse for poorly planned bailout strategy). IWR is my first strategy. If you want to come to the surface, suck O2 at 1 bar, hang around for a chopper, suck O2 whilst at <1bar then get into a pot to take hyperbaric O2 and He then fine by me. I on the other hand want hyperbaric O2 and He asap, preferably before any more damage is done, to treat whatever it is I've damaged. Because the damage is permanent. Having used IWR successfully, I'm happy to do so again. I used ali80's and Mark is right; they are total bastards out of the water. I do like the way you can float them behind you under the water though. __________________ www.southwestmafia.com "Once the agenda-monkeys and perfect-worlders have moved on, perhaps we can do some diving?"
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24th June 2006, 15:46	#34 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,434	Re: More bailout please.... Quote: (Originally Posted by AD_ward9) To get 11 green blobs, you have more than 5000 pal points. This means that a lot of people have had to agree with you, or you found some scam. Given only 650 posts that is not bad. While Mark is doing pretty well with blobs, but he isn't doing that well. No one has reached the 5000 points yet afaIk. I haven't even half as many and neither has he. By the way, when you will finally get us the 15 kg, 5 hrs, $5000, failsafe, foolproof CCR you'll likely be the first to reach the 5000 points just for telling us about and where to buy it (if you spread to two threads ). __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.'!"
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26th June 2006, 07:14	#35 (permalink)
AD_ward9 So much more to learn Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,732	Re: More bailout please.... Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) While Mark is doing pretty well with blobs, but he isn't doing that well. No one has reached the 5000 points yet afaIk. I haven't even half as many and neither has he. Stuart advises that the vanity points run as 10,50,200,400,600,800,1000,1500,2000,3000,5000 and they have not been changed for a long time. If there is offset of 1, this means Mark has 3000 points. No offset, 5000 points. Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) By the way, when you will finally get us the 15 kg, 5 hrs, $5000, failsafe, foolproof CCR you'll likely be the first to reach the 5000 points just for telling us about and where to buy it (if you spread to two threads ). Ah ha! Proof that the blob system is not just pure voting! And there was me just running for the DEMA that Brent had been so good to propose... Cheers Alex
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27th June 2006, 10:53	#37 (permalink)
AD_ward9 So much more to learn Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,732	Re: More bailout please.... Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) ... has 1718 I should have pointed out that it actually starts at 0 I guess Hang on this makes it easier to explain...... ;-) So, how does 1718 pal points equate to 11 blobs? Is this counting to Base 9? If so, very clever ... Alex
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27th June 2006, 14:41	#38 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,556	Re: More bailout please.... Oh for christ sake I was only having a laugh, and now look at the state of this thread. I reckon you lot are just anal enough to be ideal CCR divers ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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27th June 2006, 16:32	#39 (permalink)
Timbo New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hertfordshire UK Posts: 63	Re: More bailout please.... I do not know how many blobs i have. On the other hand I do know how much bailout i carry .
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27th June 2006, 17:18	#40 (permalink)
db8us Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 225	Re: More bailout please.... I am another dude that does not know, how much blobs he has, but i know exactly the amount of bailout-gas. If possible enough to exit all the way and also deco on OC. About the blobs, since i do not believe in heart-attacks as the major risk of breather-diving and i do not glorify breathers, but see them just as a tool, i will NEVER get more blobs here :-)
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