Small Rebreather's markets

Sue · 11th June 2006, 13:07

From another topic:

Quote: (Originally Posted by Sue)
Sorry to be off-topic, but how small is the Rebreather market in Italy?
Do you have an idea of how many units do you have in there?

Very few. One ourobouros, one kiss, less than 50 inspiration, about 60 dolphin (but the majority not used), very few ray, about 10 azimut AF, about 40 azimut, about 15 voyager CCR, some (less than 10) homebuild...

And i think i have been abundant.

Cross-check with the number of the instructors. They are really few

In Portugal and according to my own calculations, we have had till now, something like 5 Kiss, 2 Meg, 3 Ouroboros, 10 Inspiration, 4 Evolution, 4 O2ptima and around 15-20 semi-closed.

I wonder how many of other small Rebreather's markets are around here?

decoweenie · 11th June 2006, 13:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by Sue)

I wonder how many of other small Rebreather's markets are around here?

IMHO, if you have double-digit number of Rebreather divers, it is not that "small"

For example, we have ~7 Rebreather divers (1 is pregnant so she doesn't count, else it would have been ~8

) and I think we have the most Rebreather divers in a single country here in the Middle-East (not counting Egypt).

GKAM · 11th June 2006, 13:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by Sue)

In Portugal and according to my own calculations, we have had till now, something like 5 Kiss, 2 Meg, 3 Ouroboros, 10 Inspiration, 4 Evolution, 4 O2ptima and around 15-20 semi-closed.

I wonder how many of other small Rebreather's markets are around here?

Greece is definitely a small market.

I counted a few months ago while discussing this topic with frends:

5-6 Inspirations,
5 Rays,
2 Atlanits,
8-10 Dolphins,
2 Azimuths,
probably 1 Submatix,
2 decommissioned UT-240s,
one IDA71-KISS
3 RGU/FMs and
one Recy'01.

Most of the Dolphin/Ray units are seldom dived. We definitely have a looooong way to go.

db8us · 11th June 2006, 15:57

There is also at least one RB80 with Allesandro Fenu.
I think there might be 3 in total.

bubnotbub · 11th June 2006, 16:25

Hi,
The situation fo the market are not exact,
the rebreather divers are a little more but the true problem in Italy is the several factions created from each other .
Different Didactics, Instructors, Models are creating hatred and division inside of one community that to contrary would have need to join for being able to share knowledge and experiences.

Best regards

Aldo

Sue · 11th June 2006, 16:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub)

the rebreather divers are a little more but the true problem in Italy is the several factions created from each other .
Different Didactics, Instructors, Models are creating hatred and division inside of one community that to contrary would have need to join for being able to share knowledge and experiences.

Aldo

Pretty much the same in here ...

What a waste!

Sue

***schford*** · 11th June 2006, 18:26

Our wolrd mpa gives a fairly good indication of small v large markets....not exact numbers but proportions...

MikeH · 12th June 2006, 06:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

IMHO, if you have double-digit number of Rebreather divers, it is not that "small"

For example, we have ~7 Rebreather divers (1 is pregnant so she doesn't count, else it would have been ~8

)

Maybe one more before too long....well, living in Saudi, but diving mostly in the UAE(since Rebreather's are apparently not legal in KSA)

. Will I be shunned for being a Meg diver, instead of an Inspo/Evo diver?!

Mike

decoweenie · 12th June 2006, 06:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by MikeH)

Will I be shunned for being a Meg diver, instead of an Inspo/Evo diver?!

No, you will be most welcomed since I am very keen to look at one...

You will enjoy diving around the UAE if you are into deep wrecks. Love me know if you need any help when arrived.

TR300 · 16th June 2006, 07:28

I am not aware about the count in germany,

but here are a lot of rebs are not in use (you see very rare divers on the lakes).

the most I think are Dolphins, Inspirations, some Submatix , some military homebuilds and a couple of RB80 and clones

I know about:

5 Inspo
1 Evo
2 Azimut
6 Dolphins
8 TR300
6 RB80 and clones
1 LARV
3 homebuilds
1 CL KISS

where also be dived.

Holger

11th June 2006, 13:07	#1 (permalink)
Sue Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portugal Posts: 161	Small Rebreather's markets From another topic: Quote: (Originally Posted by Sue) Sorry to be off-topic, but how small is the Rebreather market in Italy? Do you have an idea of how many units do you have in there? Very few. One ourobouros, one kiss, less than 50 inspiration, about 60 dolphin (but the majority not used), very few ray, about 10 azimut AF, about 40 azimut, about 15 voyager CCR, some (less than 10) homebuild... And i think i have been abundant. Cross-check with the number of the instructors. They are really few In Portugal and according to my own calculations, we have had till now, something like 5 Kiss, 2 Meg, 3 Ouroboros, 10 Inspiration, 4 Evolution, 4 O2ptima and around 15-20 semi-closed. I wonder how many of other small Rebreather's markets are around here?
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11th June 2006, 13:23	#2 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Small Rebreather's markets Quote: (Originally Posted by Sue) I wonder how many of other small Rebreather's markets are around here? IMHO, if you have double-digit number of Rebreather divers, it is not that "small" For example, we have ~7 Rebreather divers (1 is pregnant so she doesn't count, else it would have been ~8 ) and I think we have the most Rebreather divers in a single country here in the Middle-East (not counting Egypt).
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11th June 2006, 13:50	#3 (permalink)
GKAM digital nomad Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Greece Posts: 252	Re: Small Rebreather's markets Quote: (Originally Posted by Sue) In Portugal and according to my own calculations, we have had till now, something like 5 Kiss, 2 Meg, 3 Ouroboros, 10 Inspiration, 4 Evolution, 4 O2ptima and around 15-20 semi-closed. I wonder how many of other small Rebreather's markets are around here? Greece is definitely a small market. I counted a few months ago while discussing this topic with frends: 5-6 Inspirations, 5 Rays, 2 Atlanits, 8-10 Dolphins, 2 Azimuths, probably 1 Submatix, 2 decommissioned UT-240s, one IDA71-KISS 3 RGU/FMs and one Recy'01. Most of the Dolphin/Ray units are seldom dived. We definitely have a looooong way to go. __________________ Stay #
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11th June 2006, 15:57	#4 (permalink)
db8us Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 227	Re: Small Rebreather's markets There is also at least one RB80 with Allesandro Fenu. I think there might be 3 in total.
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11th June 2006, 16:25	#5 (permalink)
bubnotbub Silent diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Italy Posts: 393	Re: Small Rebreather's markets Hi, The situation fo the market are not exact, the rebreather divers are a little more but the true problem in Italy is the several factions created from each other . Different Didactics, Instructors, Models are creating hatred and division inside of one community that to contrary would have need to join for being able to share knowledge and experiences. Best regards Aldo __________________ Aldo Ferrucci *Trimix and Rebreather IT* *Expedition Leader* *www.bubnotbub.com* I like bubbles only in my glass of Champagne
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11th June 2006, 16:32	#6 (permalink)
Sue Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portugal Posts: 161	Re: Small Rebreather's markets Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub) the rebreather divers are a little more but the true problem in Italy is the several factions created from each other . Different Didactics, Instructors, Models are creating hatred and division inside of one community that to contrary would have need to join for being able to share knowledge and experiences. Aldo Pretty much the same in here ... What a waste! Sue
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11th June 2006, 18:26	#7 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,562	Re: Small Rebreather's markets Our wolrd mpa gives a fairly good indication of small v large markets....not exact numbers but proportions... __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of Rebreather World is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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12th June 2006, 06:32	#8 (permalink)
MikeH Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orlando, FL USA Posts: 178	Re: Small Rebreather's markets Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) IMHO, if you have double-digit number of Rebreather divers, it is not that "small" For example, we have ~7 Rebreather divers (1 is pregnant so she doesn't count, else it would have been ~8 ) Maybe one more before too long....well, living in Saudi, but diving mostly in the UAE(since Rebreather's are apparently not legal in KSA) . Will I be shunned for being a Meg diver, instead of an Inspo/Evo diver?! Mike
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12th June 2006, 06:41	#9 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Small Rebreather's markets Quote: (Originally Posted by MikeH) Will I be shunned for being a Meg diver, instead of an Inspo/Evo diver?! No, you will be most welcomed since I am very keen to look at one... You will enjoy diving around the UAE if you are into deep wrecks. Love me know if you need any help when arrived.
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16th June 2006, 07:28	#10 (permalink)
TR300 Holger Berghäuser Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Dolphin Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Weinheim, Germany Posts: 208	Re: Small Rebreather's markets I am not aware about the count in germany, but here are a lot of rebs are not in use (you see very rare divers on the lakes). the most I think are Dolphins, Inspirations, some Submatix , some military homebuilds and a couple of RB80 and clones I know about: 5 Inspo 1 Evo 2 Azimut 6 Dolphins 8 TR300 6 RB80 and clones 1 LARV 3 homebuilds 1 CL KISS where also be dived. Holger __________________ If it makes bubbles it means its brocken Visit: www.tr300.com, Missions: www.rebreatherteam.de
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