Article from COMEX Scientific Director on rebreathers, decompression and Penny Glover

***EBT*** · 11th June 2006, 22:21

Are you gonna bark all day, little dog

<grins>

chrisch · 14th June 2006, 21:40

We had been in contact with Penny about some training before her untimely death. What a waste. Also what a shame that this thread has degenerated into nonsense. People that don't dive arguing points that show little knowledge and anti-Rebreather drivel that misses the the point about why someone that gave so much to the sport of diving lost her life in tragic circumstances.

Please someone shut this down now or at least seperate the drivel from the Comex document.

Show a little respect.

Thank you.

Chris

db8us · 15th June 2006, 06:08

I agree that we should stay on topic, but why every point of critisism on breather is put down as "anti-Rebreather drivel " i do not get.

Let´s see it that way:
-Was it the training ? No, because they were competent and experienced
-Was it the unit, No, it is never the unit because we love them so much
-Were the divers stupid ? No never because we knew them
-health issues ? Yes, it was most likely a double heart attack.

Why ?
Because we would not like the answers to be yes on number 1-3

The digging for answers is painful and not yet very successful, but we should at least really WANT to find them.
Glorifying what we do (breather diving) does not get us anywhere. So far we never ever at least saw the readouts of divecomputers with the profile or anything else useful.

I hope that the day i will die on a breather people dig out these emails and convince everyone that i would be hardly interested that each and every detail would be published. If i did stupid things then people should put in the report:
He was an idiot, he was diving used scrubber
He was an idiot, he was using a deep air END
He was an idiot not having enough bailout

My family should live with that

and for the records:
I was checked completly last year and my heart was in perfect condition.
Will have another check later this year.

Michael (back to India now for a week)

TopGun · 15th June 2006, 12:59

Have any details ever been released on any rebreather fatalities? Is there a website somewhere where this data is kept? Just that I always see the fatality reported and then by the time to inquest happens it is a few years later and the details never appear on any forums that I've seen. If someone can point me to a few links it would be appreciated.
thanks

Mark Chase · 15th June 2006, 13:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by TopGun)

Have any details ever been released on any rebreather fatalities? Is there a website somewhere where this data is kept? Just that I always see the fatality reported and then by the time to inquest happens it is a few years later and the details never appear on any forums that I've seen. If someone can point me to a few links it would be appreciated.
thanks

Good stuff on inspo incidents on here:

http://www.btinternet.com/~madmole/divemole.htm

ATB

Mark Chase

11th June 2006, 22:21	#91 (permalink)
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14th June 2006, 21:40	#92 (permalink)
chrisch New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 14	Re: Article from COMEX Scientific Director on rebreathers, decompression and Penny Gl We had been in contact with Penny about some training before her untimely death. What a waste. Also what a shame that this thread has degenerated into nonsense. People that don't dive arguing points that show little knowledge and anti-Rebreather drivel that misses the the point about why someone that gave so much to the sport of diving lost her life in tragic circumstances. Please someone shut this down now or at least seperate the drivel from the Comex document. Show a little respect. Thank you. Chris
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15th June 2006, 06:08	#93 (permalink)
db8us Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 226	Re: Article from COMEX Scientific Director on rebreathers, decompression and Penny Glover I agree that we should stay on topic, but why every point of critisism on breather is put down as "anti-Rebreather drivel " i do not get. Let´s see it that way: -Was it the training ? No, because they were competent and experienced -Was it the unit, No, it is never the unit because we love them so much -Were the divers stupid ? No never because we knew them -health issues ? Yes, it was most likely a double heart attack. Why ? Because we would not like the answers to be yes on number 1-3 The digging for answers is painful and not yet very successful, but we should at least really WANT to find them. Glorifying what we do (breather diving) does not get us anywhere. So far we never ever at least saw the readouts of divecomputers with the profile or anything else useful. I hope that the day i will die on a breather people dig out these emails and convince everyone that i would be hardly interested that each and every detail would be published. If i did stupid things then people should put in the report: He was an idiot, he was diving used scrubber He was an idiot, he was using a deep air END He was an idiot not having enough bailout My family should live with that and for the records: I was checked completly last year and my heart was in perfect condition. Will have another check later this year. Michael (back to India now for a week)
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15th June 2006, 12:59	#94 (permalink)
TopGun New Member Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 2	Re: Article from COMEX Scientific Director on rebreathers, decompression and Penny Glover Have any details ever been released on any rebreather fatalities? Is there a website somewhere where this data is kept? Just that I always see the fatality reported and then by the time to inquest happens it is a few years later and the details never appear on any forums that I've seen. If someone can point me to a few links it would be appreciated. thanks
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15th June 2006, 13:55	#95 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,694	Re: Article from COMEX Scientific Director on rebreathers, decompression and Penny Glover Quote: (Originally Posted by TopGun) Have any details ever been released on any rebreather fatalities? Is there a website somewhere where this data is kept? Just that I always see the fatality reported and then by the time to inquest happens it is a few years later and the details never appear on any forums that I've seen. If someone can point me to a few links it would be appreciated. thanks Good stuff on inspo incidents on here: http://www.btinternet.com/~madmole/divemole.htm ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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