Evo Display Irregularity

**Gill Envy** · 5th June 2006, 18:23

Well, we made it up to the sunshine coast this weekend, and true to it's name it's a hell of a lot more sunny than seattle. So, warmth and sunshine did seem to provoke a more pronounced version of this spot, the exact size and place of the above descriptions, on both our evo screens at the same time. it didn't change with angle and was clearly not a polarizing effect of the plastic protective film on the screen. After noticing it we took special care to keep the screen turned away from the sun, which pretty much eliminated the issue. neither of us noticed this effect under water.

When we first noticed it, the spot was pronounced enough to make the read out in the effected area lighter and harder to read, suggesting pressure...in fact, pressing on it made it worse. So far i'm siding with the folks that say it's a heat expansion issue causing the plastic screen to bear down/buckle in a little bit on the Liquid crystal underneath. I'm assuming/hoping this has no long term consequences, but I'm very interested to hear if AP comes up with a resolution for this.

narked at 90 · 7th June 2006, 18:21

hi every one i've been pushing the manufactures about the hand set covers and i will have hand set covers in stock on saturday 10th june( for the clasic) evo and vision sets will be very soon.
colours will be yellow with black trim for the clasic and black for the vision/evo.
the price should be about £48 + delivery if any one is intrested please send me a pm.
kindest regards john routley
www.narkedat90.co.uk

narked at 90 · 11th June 2006, 21:25

Hi everyone the hand set covers are now in stock( but very limited stock)
i only have them for the classic at the moment as im waiting on the shippment for the vision/evo,
you can see them on my website here: http://www.narkedat90.co.uk/38.html
kindest regards john routley

colinicky · 11th June 2006, 21:38

Hi John
Is this going to be the same price for the vision or half price as we only need 1 ?

narked at 90 · 11th June 2006, 21:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

Hi John
Is this going to be the same price for the vision or half price as we only need 1 ?

hi colin im not to shore of the finished price on the evo covers yet but they are not half price im afraid becase of the way they are made and how many of them are being made.
kindest regards john

tonyvfromcleveland · 12th June 2006, 04:17

My handset had it during a pool dive. It went away and havent seen it since. (Aprox 12 hours later.) Did APV recomend sending it back?

colinicky · 12th June 2006, 05:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by tonyvfromcleveland)

My handset had it during a pool dive. It went away and havent seen it since. (Aprox 12 hours later.) Did APV recomend sending it back?

Mine did it & stayed so I spoke to Nicky at AP .I was told to send it back when I had a break from diving ,it has been back at AP for the last week so hopefully have it back soon .

diverrob · 16th June 2006, 22:07

I did a little test and this what I discovered. After letting the display cooled down with the help of some ice the spot went away see pic #1. After the display came back to room temp 22C the spot reappeared see pic #2. This leads me to believe that the spot is temperature related and not UV related.

colinicky · 17th June 2006, 07:10

A quick update .I returned head to AP 2 weeks ago having been told that "No problem we know about that ,send it back & we'll sort it " .Brilliant I thought 4 week ban from diving anyway so plenty of time .I spoke to them late yesterday to be told that it has not been looked at yet as they are still "Investigating the cause" !

know I wouldn't mind but I had been led to believe that they already had a cure for it . So I'm now thinking of starting a sweepstake on when I might get it back

Michael Prange · 19th June 2006, 12:01

Last weekend bought a vision unit for my old 2001 classic inspiration. It was a hot day (~100-110 F) as I drove with it for about an hour and then parked the car for a few more hours in the shade with the windows open (its nice being out the the countryside where trust is a bit higher!). When I returned to the car I found the same spot mentioned by the original poster on the handset display. The spot disappeared after a few hours in cooler temperatures (~80-90 F). Is this normal? I haven't dived it yet and am wondering if I should return it.

5th June 2006, 18:23	#31 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Diver Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,302	Re: Evo Display Irregularity Well, we made it up to the sunshine coast this weekend, and true to it's name it's a hell of a lot more sunny than seattle. So, warmth and sunshine did seem to provoke a more pronounced version of this spot, the exact size and place of the above descriptions, on both our evo screens at the same time. it didn't change with angle and was clearly not a polarizing effect of the plastic protective film on the screen. After noticing it we took special care to keep the screen turned away from the sun, which pretty much eliminated the issue. neither of us noticed this effect under water. When we first noticed it, the spot was pronounced enough to make the read out in the effected area lighter and harder to read, suggesting pressure...in fact, pressing on it made it worse. So far i'm siding with the folks that say it's a heat expansion issue causing the plastic screen to bear down/buckle in a little bit on the Liquid crystal underneath. I'm assuming/hoping this has no long term consequences, but I'm very interested to hear if AP comes up with a resolution for this. __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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7th June 2006, 18:21	#32 (permalink)
narked at 90 In my own little world Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,010	Re: Evo Display Irregularity hi every one i've been pushing the manufactures about the hand set covers and i will have hand set covers in stock on saturday 10th june( for the clasic) evo and vision sets will be very soon. colours will be yellow with black trim for the clasic and black for the vision/evo. the price should be about £48 + delivery if any one is intrested please send me a pm. kindest regards john routley www.narkedat90.co.uk __________________ CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *WWW.GRPSERVICES.COM*
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11th June 2006, 21:25	#33 (permalink)
narked at 90 In my own little world Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,010	Re: Evo Display Irregularity Hi everyone the hand set covers are now in stock( but very limited stock) i only have them for the classic at the moment as im waiting on the shippment for the vision/evo, you can see them on my website here: http://www.narkedat90.co.uk/38.html kindest regards john routley __________________ CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *WWW.GRPSERVICES.COM*
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11th June 2006, 21:38	#34 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 669	Re: Vision cover Hi John Is this going to be the same price for the vision or half price as we only need 1 ? __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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11th June 2006, 21:47	#35 (permalink)
narked at 90 In my own little world Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,010	Re: Vision cover Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) Hi John Is this going to be the same price for the vision or half price as we only need 1 ? hi colin im not to shore of the finished price on the evo covers yet but they are not half price im afraid becase of the way they are made and how many of them are being made. kindest regards john __________________ CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *WWW.GRPSERVICES.COM*
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12th June 2006, 04:17	#36 (permalink)
tonyvfromcleveland New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: cleveland OH Posts: 4	Re: Evo Display Irregularity My handset had it during a pool dive. It went away and havent seen it since. (Aprox 12 hours later.) Did APV recomend sending it back?
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12th June 2006, 05:23	#37 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 669	Re: Evo Display Irregularity Quote: (Originally Posted by tonyvfromcleveland) My handset had it during a pool dive. It went away and havent seen it since. (Aprox 12 hours later.) Did APV recomend sending it back? Mine did it & stayed so I spoke to Nicky at AP .I was told to send it back when I had a break from diving ,it has been back at AP for the last week so hopefully have it back soon . __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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17th June 2006, 07:10	#39 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 669	Update re AP's answer A quick update .I returned head to AP 2 weeks ago having been told that "No problem we know about that ,send it back & we'll sort it " .Brilliant I thought 4 week ban from diving anyway so plenty of time .I spoke to them late yesterday to be told that it has not been looked at yet as they are still "Investigating the cause" ! know I wouldn't mind but I had been led to believe that they already had a cure for it . So I'm now thinking of starting a sweepstake on when I might get it back __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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19th June 2006, 12:01	#40 (permalink)
Michael Prange Michael Prange Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Posts: 11	Re: Evo Display Irregularity Last weekend bought a vision unit for my old 2001 classic inspiration. It was a hot day (~100-110 F) as I drove with it for about an hour and then parked the car for a few more hours in the shade with the windows open (its nice being out the the countryside where trust is a bit higher!). When I returned to the car I found the same spot mentioned by the original poster on the handset display. The spot disappeared after a few hours in cooler temperatures (~80-90 F). Is this normal? I haven't dived it yet and am wondering if I should return it.
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