Help! Stage Rigging came undone, no idea how to re knot

thetrickster · 21st September 2012, 08:15

Dear All,

On the last dive, my rigging (pre-made from a company called DTD) came undone at the bottom boltsnap, luckily as I was getting back on the boat.

Now I know my way around bowlines, sheet bends etc etc, but I can for the life of me, figure out to fix this.

Here is what is should look like

Hope someone can help me, and for me not to mess it up! Thanks

Stephane · 21st September 2012, 08:22

Hi,

Here is what you need: DIR-diver.com - Stagebottle rigging

Basically it's a fisherman's knot: File:Fisherman's knot.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

techy1967 · 21st September 2012, 09:08

Video Blog: Stage/Deco Rigging - YouTube

Jeppe_E · 21st September 2012, 10:27

not sure about the fishermans knot, i would simply do a square knot and burn it (if it is nylon)

***jradomski*** · 21st September 2012, 12:04

Wh make my own rigging I prefer to use an "eye splice" by far this is the neatest and most secure way to make loops... the harder you pull the tighter it gets... the rope used on your rigging is very small in diameter so you might have some difficulty doing it.... I generally use 1/3 or thicker rope.. See this link on how to splice it..

Boat Rope -Make an Eye Splice for Mooring or Anchor Line

cameron · 21st September 2012, 12:46

It should be rigged so that the gear clamp between the fishermans knot will hold the running ends of cordage in place even if BOTH sides of the fishermans fails. This it to prevent EXACTLY you failure here.

This is also why you don't use a square knot. If it comes undone then you have a loose end.

Cam

Jantje · 21st September 2012, 14:52

I hate to link to a DIR site, but here you go.

DIR-diver.com - Stagebottle rigging

thetrickster · 21st September 2012, 18:56

Thanks all.

Fisherman's Knot, did the trick. Phew.

Was a bit tricky with the small about of line on one end, but did it in the end. Heated up the ends and bashed them down. I hope that is the end of that. No pun intended.

Cheers all.

Steve Schultz · 21st September 2012, 20:27

If you don't know knots, tie lots!

Ya, the fisherman exactly like Cam said works very well for me.

21st September 2012, 08:15	#1 (permalink)
thetrickster RBW Member APD Evolution Vision Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gibraltar / Spain Posts: 350	Help! Stage Rigging came undone, no idea how to re knot Dear All, On the last dive, my rigging (pre-made from a company called DTD) came undone at the bottom boltsnap, luckily as I was getting back on the boat. Now I know my way around bowlines, sheet bends etc etc, but I can for the life of me, figure out to fix this. Here is what is should look like Hope someone can help me, and for me not to mess it up! Thanks
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21st September 2012, 08:22	#2 (permalink)
Stephane Stéphane Acounis rEvo3 rMS rEvo2 HH, rEvo1 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nantes - France Posts: 1,293	Re: Help! Stage Rigging came undone, no idea how to re knot Hi, Here is what you need: DIR-diver.com - Stagebottle rigging Basically it's a fisherman's knot: File:Fisherman's knot.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Jeppe_E When In Doubt - Bail Out Poseidon MkVI 50M TX Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,001	Re: Help! Stage Rigging came undone, no idea how to re knot not sure about the fishermans knot, i would simply do a square knot and burn it (if it is nylon)
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*jradomski* Moderator Hammehead & rEvo & Custom KISS,Optima,Inspiration,Meg Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 4,108	Re: Help! Stage Rigging came undone, no idea how to re knot Wh make my own rigging I prefer to use an "eye splice" by far this is the neatest and most secure way to make loops... the harder you pull the tighter it gets... the rope used on your rigging is very small in diameter so you might have some difficulty doing it.... I generally use 1/3 or thicker rope.. See this link on how to splice it.. Boat Rope -Make an Eye Splice for Mooring or Anchor Line __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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21st September 2012, 12:46	#6 (permalink)
cameron RBW Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 568	Re: Help! Stage Rigging came undone, no idea how to re knot It should be rigged so that the gear clamp between the fishermans knot will hold the running ends of cordage in place even if BOTH sides of the fishermans fails. This it to prevent EXACTLY you failure here. This is also why you don't use a square knot. If it comes undone then you have a loose end. Cam
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Jantje RBW Member rEvo III hCCR Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Curaçao Posts: 543	Re: Help! Stage Rigging came undone, no idea how to re knot I hate to link to a DIR site, but here you go. DIR-diver.com - Stagebottle rigging
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thetrickster RBW Member APD Evolution Vision Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gibraltar / Spain Posts: 350	Re: Help! Stage Rigging came undone, no idea how to re knot Thanks all. Fisherman's Knot, did the trick. Phew. Was a bit tricky with the small about of line on one end, but did it in the end. Heated up the ends and bashed them down. I hope that is the end of that. No pun intended. Cheers all.
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Steve Schultz Nearly Bubbleless Halcyon RB80 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 447	Re: Help! Stage Rigging came undone, no idea how to re knot If you don't know knots, tie lots! Ya, the fisherman exactly like Cam said works very well for me.
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