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Old 27th March 2006, 18:02   #1 (permalink)
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Cylinder Paint

Don't know if this is the right place, but here goes.

I just ordered a set of dumpy 3lt Heisers to keep in the UK for my Classic. What sort of paint is likely on them? Is it powder coat?

The reason I ask is that yellow cylinders with stupid black and white quadrants on them do not appeal to me. Getting them filled is not an issue, so I want to repaint them black like everything else I have.

Any recommendations?
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Old 27th March 2006, 18:12   #2 (permalink)
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Hmmmm, still involved in clandestine diving operations I see...


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Old 27th March 2006, 20:00   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Cylinder Paint

Hi,
The bestway is 2 pack car paint & bake. If you spray or paint them yourself, you should be able to find a friendly body repair shop who will bake them at the same time. Make sure the cyls are nearly empty, as they get hot in the paint oven!

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Old 27th March 2006, 20:06   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Cylinder Paint

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Hi,
The bestway is 2 pack car paint & bake. If you spray or paint them yourself, you should be able to find a friendly body repair shop who will bake them at the same time. Make sure the cyls are nearly empty, as they get hot in the paint oven!

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Er there's a max temp that cylinders can be exposed to.
On my luxfor it says anythign over 180 degreees c is to be condemed.
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Old 27th March 2006, 20:12   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Cylinder Paint

I would be extremely wary of any kind of paint process that involve oven curing. There was an accident a few years ago, in Florida I believe, where freshly painted cylinders let go during their first refill. Turned out the curing process had changed the molecular stucture of the metal and rendered the cylinders unable to handle their rated working pressure. Now, these were alu cylinders, I don't know how this applies to steel ones.

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Old 27th March 2006, 20:20   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Cylinder Paint

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Don't know if this is the right place, but here goes.

I just ordered a set of dumpy 3lt Heisers to keep in the UK for my Classic. What sort of paint is likely on them? Is it powder coat?

The reason I ask is that yellow cylinders with stupid black and white quadrants on them do not appeal to me. Getting them filled is not an issue, so I want to repaint them black like everything else I have.

Any recommendations?
Why not ask Julie how she did the cylinders for her 'Tigger Meg'? I assume she's still around here somewhere.

Julie--what are your thoughts? How'd you have the paint job done, and how is it holding up?

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Old 27th March 2006, 20:41   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Cylinder Paint

Baking cylinders weakens them in ways not detectible to standard visual inspections conducted by dive centres.

You would be placing the filler and anyone around them at a nasty and unnessecary risk by doing so.

Good auto body spray paint properly applied with a clear coat seal should make your tanks super sleek without any damage to the tanks, although it will hide any surface corrosion making the tank's exterior harder to inspect for damage.

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Old 27th March 2006, 21:29   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Cylinder Paint

A number of spray and bake booths here in Oz work at 65C.
No problem for an empty tank with a plug in it.

No chance of a metalurgical anomoly occuring. If it was there are lots of places in Oz we couldn't dive. ie most of Nothern Australia from a ute.

My caution would be for contamination and any sandblasting.
There is a product that was given to me, sorry forgotton its name, and it is clear but quite viscous, but once you have painted it on ANY surface normal paint will stick to it properly.

It allows you to paint glass or painted surfaces without having to remove the old paint. You would just need to make sure the original paint was in good enough condition to warrant painting over.

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Old 27th March 2006, 22:39   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Cylinder Paint

Being in the motor body repair game, I can concur with wizbang. Our ovens don't exceed ~60 deg c during the baking process.

I have painted many tanks over the years and the process from our end is quite simple.

Also, using two pac products, you don't require the oven to cure the paint. The oven only accelerates the process, so if you are paranoid, you don't have to bake...

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Old 28th March 2006, 14:13   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Cylinder Paint

Ok, so I have a brother in law with a car bodyshop back in the UK.

Do I take them to him, and tell him to repaint them two pack black, give them a couple of coats, mask up the valves carefully, and not bake them?

I should say, the tanks are brand new, I just don't like yellow tanks.

Thanks for the help so far.
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