Standardisation in the diving industry

sven · 26th March 2006, 13:44

Hi!

I am wondering what level of support the idea of the diving industry standardising on either metric OR imperial would have. Having grown up in a metric country (East Germany), I find the variety of threads, nuts, spanners etc. rather confusing. My toolbox needs to include way too many tools! So my question is whether you guys would like to see a standardisation, and if so, on which standard. I personally prefer metric - that's what I grew up with, and it also makes all sorts of calculations easier. But in the end, any sort of standardisation is a good one.

**nigelh** · 26th March 2006, 14:33

After spending most of my life doing physics I'm too stupid to work in old Imperial units now.

The only imperial measures I now use are miles and miles per hour.

Benthic · 26th March 2006, 14:45

If there's going to be standardization, metric is definitely the way to go. I really wish that we (the US that is) would get with the program.

Brian

Janos · 26th March 2006, 15:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh)

After spending most of my life doing physics I'm too stupid to work in old Imperial units now.
The only imperial measures I now use are miles and miles per hour.

Ah, but what's the thread on your regulator ports?

Standardisation is definitely A Good Thing. And the metric way is the only sensible way to do it.

Janos

***caveseeker7*** · 26th March 2006, 18:03

Metric, hands down. Allows for much easier Rebreather related math, too.

Sutty · 26th March 2006, 19:16

Metric - no contest, 10m=1bar is so much easier!

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 26th March 2006, 20:24

Just make everything so that everything does both metric and imperial.

Skipbreather · 27th March 2006, 05:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by sven)

Hi!

I am wondering what level of support the idea of the diving industry standardising on either metric OR imperial would have. Having grown up in a metric country (East Germany), I find the variety of threads, nuts, spanners etc. rather confusing. My toolbox needs to include way too many tools! So my question is whether you guys would like to see a standardisation, and if so, on which standard. I personally prefer metric - that's what I grew up with, and it also makes all sorts of calculations easier. But in the end, any sort of standardisation is a good one.

Hi Sven-

There is a larger problem than Imperial vs. metric. It is national. Granted the basic DIN vs A clamp and 3/8-24 type things are a pain, but that is all mostly math and one time adapters. A much larger problem is the plethora of national standards for gas supply cylinders. There are literally DOZENS. One can carry adapters/ converters for the two (Din/ yoke) connectors, but you are thoroughly SOL if you cannot connect fill whips for your cylinders at the DRATEOTE (Dive resort at the end of the Earth!) ;-) .

Ken

mikedive · 27th March 2006, 05:53

For me really doesn't matter if is metric or imperial, for sure I'd like metric but just make standard and I'd be happy.
Cheers,

Lawrence D · 27th March 2006, 19:24

I learned metric when I lived in Europe and I found it very easy. Here in Canada it was legislated so metric measurements will be used. It is evn the standard in schools. The fact is that we are so close to the US that a lot of diving kit comes in the old imperial measurements. It wouldn't be easy to convert all that gear to metric and I doubt that it will ever happen. On the other hand ""some"" US military and airospace use the metric system - go figure.

. I wonder weather there will ever be a global effort to convert to metric????? Would be VERY handy.

If one travells to the Caribbean, S America, Australia, Europe, Russia SE Asia, India and M East, metric would the most common measurement.

Lawrence

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26th March 2006, 13:44	#1 (permalink)
sven Blogs Admin / Forum Mod Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 574	Standardisation in the diving industry Hi! I am wondering what level of support the idea of the diving industry standardising on either metric OR imperial would have. Having grown up in a metric country (East Germany), I find the variety of threads, nuts, spanners etc. rather confusing. My toolbox needs to include way too many tools! So my question is whether you guys would like to see a standardisation, and if so, on which standard. I personally prefer metric - that's what I grew up with, and it also makes all sorts of calculations easier. But in the end, any sort of standardisation is a good one. __________________ Regards, Sven [SIZE=1]The Sydney Project website: [URL]http://www.sydneyproject.com[/URL] My Blog: [URL]http://sven.rebreatherworld.com[/URL] "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain[/SIZE]
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26th March 2006, 14:33	#2 (permalink)
nigelh New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 784	Re: Standardisation in the diving industry After spending most of my life doing physics I'm too stupid to work in old Imperial units now. The only imperial measures I now use are miles and miles per hour. __________________ nigelh
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26th March 2006, 14:45	#3 (permalink)
Benthic MEGalomaniac Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pensacola, FL USA Posts: 218	Re: Standardisation in the diving industry If there's going to be standardization, metric is definitely the way to go. I really wish that we (the US that is) would get with the program. Brian __________________ Well lit rooms will not repel determined beer ninjas.
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26th March 2006, 15:45	#4 (permalink)
Janos "Two Sheds" Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Surrey Posts: 579	Re: Standardisation in the diving industry Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh) After spending most of my life doing physics I'm too stupid to work in old Imperial units now. The only imperial measures I now use are miles and miles per hour. Ah, but what's the thread on your regulator ports? Standardisation is definitely A Good Thing. And the metric way is the only sensible way to do it. Janos __________________ You can lead a horse to water but you can't climb a ladder with a large bell in both hands - Vic Reeves www.hellfins.com/shed
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26th March 2006, 18:03	#5 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,284	Re: Standardisation in the diving industry Metric, hands down. Allows for much easier Rebreather related math, too. __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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26th March 2006, 19:16	#6 (permalink)
Sutty Classic Kiss diver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Glossop, Derbyshire, UK Posts: 763	Re: Standardisation in the diving industry Metric - no contest, 10m=1bar is so much easier! __________________ Never forget that life is a finite resource.
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26th March 2006, 20:24	#7 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 1,890	Re: Standardisation in the diving industry Just make everything so that everything does both metric and imperial. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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27th March 2006, 05:06	#8 (permalink)
Skipbreather WAY past the barber pole Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, Illinois, USA Posts: 524	Re: Standardisation in the diving industry Quote: (Originally Posted by sven) Hi! I am wondering what level of support the idea of the diving industry standardising on either metric OR imperial would have. Having grown up in a metric country (East Germany), I find the variety of threads, nuts, spanners etc. rather confusing. My toolbox needs to include way too many tools! So my question is whether you guys would like to see a standardisation, and if so, on which standard. I personally prefer metric - that's what I grew up with, and it also makes all sorts of calculations easier. But in the end, any sort of standardisation is a good one. Hi Sven- There is a larger problem than Imperial vs. metric. It is national. Granted the basic DIN vs A clamp and 3/8-24 type things are a pain, but that is all mostly math and one time adapters. A much larger problem is the plethora of national standards for gas supply cylinders. There are literally DOZENS. One can carry adapters/ converters for the two (Din/ yoke) connectors, but you are thoroughly SOL if you cannot connect fill whips for your cylinders at the DRATEOTE (Dive resort at the end of the Earth!) ;-) . Ken Last edited by Skipbreather : 27th March 2006 at 05:08.
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27th March 2006, 05:53	#9 (permalink)
mikedive Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Optima Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Brazil, Texas and Mexico Posts: 321	Re: Standardisation in the diving industry For me really doesn't matter if is metric or imperial, for sure I'd like metric but just make standard and I'd be happy. Cheers, __________________ Michael Silva Netto - Rebreather Clube do Brasil rebreathertraining@gmail.com
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27th March 2006, 19:24	#10 (permalink)
Lawrence D New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Guelph Ontario Posts: 2	Re: Standardisation in the diving industry I learned metric when I lived in Europe and I found it very easy. Here in Canada it was legislated so metric measurements will be used. It is evn the standard in schools. The fact is that we are so close to the US that a lot of diving kit comes in the old imperial measurements. It wouldn't be easy to convert all that gear to metric and I doubt that it will ever happen. On the other hand ""some"" US military and airospace use the metric system - go figure. . I wonder weather there will ever be a global effort to convert to metric????? Would be VERY handy. If one travells to the Caribbean, S America, Australia, Europe, Russia SE Asia, India and M East, metric would the most common measurement. Lawrence
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