Why did you go to a rebreather

***Beanie*** · 14th April 2005, 10:39

we've had when, what age and how long...

so now why?

what made you make the switch to rebreather diving?

for me it was size / weight of cylinders - twin 12s and 2 10 stages are silly on me.

gas costs - was homebrewing anyway but still not cheap.

the final straw was being blown out on every trimix trip i tried to go on and wasting the gas I had.

Mdemon · 14th April 2005, 11:00

In a word, Safety. Might sound odd, but I read Dr Mike's post on being trapped in a wreck at 65m and that made my mind up. You can never have too much gas...

Other reasons:
Cost - £54 for one dive to 70m put me off big-time. I now homebrew, soooo,
Safety #2 - I dive mix on every dive. A clear head is the only thing you can't duplicate.
Range and Duration - linked to Safety #1, this kit will follow me all the way through as I progress in my diving. I buy kit and train into it, not the other way round. It will take me anywhere I want to go, safely and cheaply - and get me back too...

Intellectual (?) - I can't see OC technology progressing much. RBs offer all sorts of opportunities for enhancement and innovation. So I get fettling thrown in for free with the cost of a breather!

Safety #3 - If anything goes wrong, it happens slowly. This gives time to sort things out. You just don't get that in OC - when a tin empties it empties. Period.

It's also good for pulling chicks...but then you already know that, right?

[expecting slap from Lou any minute now...]

Is this what you were after?

FathomsDown · 14th April 2005, 11:17

It was a mixture of safety and convenience for me.

I work in the City so getting my twins filled is a complete pain. It basically comes down to missing a days diving, a days teaching or a days work to get a fill as I can't lug twin 12s into London to get a fill from the London centres. The 3l Inspo cylinders are more manageable and the added duration, warm air and less weight are a real bonus.

Helium_diver · 14th April 2005, 11:18

For me it was after having a hip replaced and that did'nt go as well as they said. Tha constant pain from having to drag those doubles and stages around. With the breather the weight is a lot more managable. 2) the cost of trimix was starting to cramp the number of dives i could make every year. 3) it just looks cool

Helium-diver

***Louby Lou*** · 14th April 2005, 11:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mdemon)

It's also good for pulling chicks...but then you already know that, right?

[expecting slap from Lou any minute now...]

<slap>

<snigger>

Decision to go CCR has been playing over and over in my mind for ages...

Weight of twins... gave up diving them a couple of years ago now...

Back diving in the UK and sorting new kit out after far too much warm water stuff... so it was either spend money on twins and use them for a bit, or just get on with it and sort a box out...

Plus the added benefit it being slightly easier diving with Beanie, Paul and Lisa... all on CCR

.... and that they led me down the road to ruin and tempted my with their "evil" boxes

All in all... cost & conveinence...

lizardland · 14th April 2005, 12:46

Standing in the shallows in Dorothea Quarry, looking at the big step up to the platform, wearing a pair of 20's I found myself muttering, I need a rebreather.

Had it not been for Duncan Price who showed me what you could do with some plumbing from B&Q I would probably have wasted half of what my homebuild cost me on a KISS that would not have tried to kill me on every dive, wasn't held together by duct tape and would maybe not get kicked out of dive centres for using. Oh well, it's been more fun

All the usual reasons too, helium is just too pricey now (and wasteful) for diving OC. I made a commitment to never diving deep OC again last year and I stuck to that, even though it has meant not a lot of deep diving while I get the current incarnation to a point I'm happy with.

onetime · 14th April 2005, 13:10

Wanted to dive a full weekend without loading a boat with a bunch of bottles or heading back to land for fills, the efficiency of the system is hard to beat, and I believe diving will eventually involve more and more RBs and I wanted to get some experience with them.

Janos · 14th April 2005, 13:53

Not got one yet, but I'm an air hog. When I started diving twins I found I didn't need to worry about my gas consumption anymore. Now I'm starting to hit the limits of twin 12s. Plus I;m going to go down the trimix route soon and can't see the point of OC trimix then CCR trimix.

Laters,
Janos

Mark Chase · 14th April 2005, 16:54

AndyP nagged me into it

And a couple of other reasons...

Logistics was a major issue. The problems with obtaining gas fills were costing nearly as much as the fill its self. A gass dive would involve over 100miles of driving to sort out fills.

Cost of gas and cost of maintaining equipment was a big secondary issue. Gas diving to 60m was costing over £100 in gas and the cost of keeping all my cylinders in test was substantial.

Transportation of equipment was another; a multiple dive trip was a nightmare.

Safety was a lesser issue at first (because I thought it was more dangerous) but now I have some time on the box it is an issue I would put strongly in its favour.

Most have seen this pic but for the sake of the few that haven’t this was the old me.....

ATB

Mark Chase

Nad · 14th April 2005, 19:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mdemon)

In a word, Safety. Might sound odd, but I read Dr Mike's post on being trapped in a wreck at 65m and that made my mind up. You can never have too much gas...

This was one of my reason, but most of all:

Quote:

Intellectual (?) - I can't see OC technology progressing much. RBs offer all sorts of opportunities for enhancement and innovation. So I get fettling thrown in for free with the cost of a breather!

Technology was the first and main idea.

Nad

14th April 2005, 10:39	#1 (permalink)
*Beanie* give a man an inch....... Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,248	Why did you go to a rebreather we've had when, what age and how long... so now why? what made you make the switch to rebreather diving? for me it was size / weight of cylinders - twin 12s and 2 10 stages are silly on me. gas costs - was homebrewing anyway but still not cheap. the final straw was being blown out on every trimix trip i tried to go on and wasting the gas I had. __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk 0871 242 7808
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14th April 2005, 11:00	#2 (permalink)
Mdemon SiegeEngine II Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SWUK Posts: 1,931	In a word, Safety. Might sound odd, but I read Dr Mike's post on being trapped in a wreck at 65m and that made my mind up. You can never have too much gas... Other reasons: Cost - £54 for one dive to 70m put me off big-time. I now homebrew, soooo, Safety #2 - I dive mix on every dive. A clear head is the only thing you can't duplicate. Range and Duration - linked to Safety #1, this kit will follow me all the way through as I progress in my diving. I buy kit and train into it, not the other way round. It will take me anywhere I want to go, safely and cheaply - and get me back too... Intellectual (?) - I can't see OC technology progressing much. RBs offer all sorts of opportunities for enhancement and innovation. So I get fettling thrown in for free with the cost of a breather! Safety #3 - If anything goes wrong, it happens slowly. This gives time to sort things out. You just don't get that in OC - when a tin empties it empties. Period. It's also good for pulling chicks...but then you already know that, right? [expecting slap from Lou any minute now...] Is this what you were after? __________________ www.southwestmafia.com "small minds talk about people, Average Minds Talk About Events, GREAT MINDS TALK ABOUT IDEAS!" The WRONG Attitude will get you killed. "Once the agenda-monkeys and perfect-worlders have moved on, perhaps we can do some diving?"
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14th April 2005, 11:17	#3 (permalink)
FathomsDown New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London Posts: 76	It was a mixture of safety and convenience for me. I work in the City so getting my twins filled is a complete pain. It basically comes down to missing a days diving, a days teaching or a days work to get a fill as I can't lug twin 12s into London to get a fill from the London centres. The 3l Inspo cylinders are more manageable and the added duration, warm air and less weight are a real bonus. __________________ Dive deep, stay long, deco for friggin' ages.
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14th April 2005, 11:18	#4 (permalink)
Helium_diver Has anyone seen my Gerbil Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Baltimore MD USA Posts: 150	For me it was after having a hip replaced and that did'nt go as well as they said. Tha constant pain from having to drag those doubles and stages around. With the breather the weight is a lot more managable. 2) the cost of trimix was starting to cramp the number of dives i could make every year. 3) it just looks cool Helium-diver
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14th April 2005, 11:28	#5 (permalink)
*Louby Lou* XLVI WC! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Roman Corinium! Posts: 1,032	Quote: (Originally Posted by Mdemon) It's also good for pulling chicks...but then you already know that, right? [expecting slap from Lou any minute now...] <slap> <snigger> Decision to go CCR has been playing over and over in my mind for ages... Weight of twins... gave up diving them a couple of years ago now... Back diving in the UK and sorting new kit out after far too much warm water stuff... so it was either spend money on twins and use them for a bit, or just get on with it and sort a box out... Plus the added benefit it being slightly easier diving with Beanie, Paul and Lisa... all on CCR .... and that they led me down the road to ruin and tempted my with their "evil" boxes All in all... cost & conveinence... __________________ Miss Lou x Use of Rebreather World is subject to the Rebreatherworld Terms and Conditions - Please read! Outlaw Divers - Sssh we're diving! You heff vays uff dealink vis zem, oh Miss Rebreather World Admin! - Rob Davie Feb 06
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14th April 2005, 12:46	#6 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,303	Standing in the shallows in Dorothea Quarry, looking at the big step up to the platform, wearing a pair of 20's I found myself muttering, I need a rebreather. Had it not been for Duncan Price who showed me what you could do with some plumbing from B&Q I would probably have wasted half of what my homebuild cost me on a KISS that would not have tried to kill me on every dive, wasn't held together by duct tape and would maybe not get kicked out of dive centres for using. Oh well, it's been more fun All the usual reasons too, helium is just too pricey now (and wasteful) for diving OC. I made a commitment to never diving deep OC again last year and I stuck to that, even though it has meant not a lot of deep diving while I get the current incarnation to a point I'm happy with.
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14th April 2005, 13:10	#7 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 696	Wanted to dive a full weekend without loading a boat with a bunch of bottles or heading back to land for fills, the efficiency of the system is hard to beat, and I believe diving will eventually involve more and more RBs and I wanted to get some experience with them.
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14th April 2005, 13:53	#8 (permalink)
Janos "Two Sheds" Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Surrey Posts: 600	Not got one yet, but I'm an air hog. When I started diving twins I found I didn't need to worry about my gas consumption anymore. Now I'm starting to hit the limits of twin 12s. Plus I;m going to go down the trimix route soon and can't see the point of OC trimix then CCR trimix. Laters, Janos __________________ You can lead a horse to water but you can't climb a ladder with a large bell in both hands - Vic Reeves www.hellfins.com/shed
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14th April 2005, 16:54	#9 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,694	AndyP nagged me into it And a couple of other reasons... Logistics was a major issue. The problems with obtaining gas fills were costing nearly as much as the fill its self. A gass dive would involve over 100miles of driving to sort out fills. Cost of gas and cost of maintaining equipment was a big secondary issue. Gas diving to 60m was costing over £100 in gas and the cost of keeping all my cylinders in test was substantial. Transportation of equipment was another; a multiple dive trip was a nightmare. Safety was a lesser issue at first (because I thought it was more dangerous) but now I have some time on the box it is an issue I would put strongly in its favour. Most have seen this pic but for the sake of the few that haven’t this was the old me..... ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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14th April 2005, 19:05	#10 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 983	Quote: (Originally Posted by Mdemon) In a word, Safety. Might sound odd, but I read Dr Mike's post on being trapped in a wreck at 65m and that made my mind up. You can never have too much gas... This was one of my reason, but most of all: Quote: Intellectual (?) - I can't see OC technology progressing much. RBs offer all sorts of opportunities for enhancement and innovation. So I get fettling thrown in for free with the cost of a breather! Technology was the first and main idea. Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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