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Old 24th March 2006, 22:44   #1 (permalink)
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Compare Buddy inspiration to CCR OROBOROUS

Hello,

could some body tell me wich is better, the:

Buddy inspiration with evolutions electronic or

the ccr OROBOROUS?

If somebody has dive with the two rebreather could he tell me his experinces and if he had to by one off this two ccr rebreathers witch one will he choose?

Tanks for replying.........
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Old 24th March 2006, 23:15   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Compare Buddy inspiration to CCR OROBOROUS

How long is a piece of string....

but seriously share with us what is important for you, then we can help you rank which woudl be the more appropriate rebreather.....
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Old 25th March 2006, 03:11   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Compare Buddy inspiration to CCR OROBOROUS

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Hello,

could some body tell me wich is better, the:

Buddy inspiration with evolutions electronic or

the ccr OROBOROUS?


The two are not designed for the same purpose so a one to one comparison doesnt really make any sense. Which one is better depends on what you want to use it for.
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Old 25th March 2006, 03:54   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Compare Buddy inspiration to CCR OROBOROUS

Maybe the better question is which can do more? -Andy
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Old 25th March 2006, 03:59   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Compare Buddy inspiration to CCR OROBOROUS

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Maybe the better question is which can do more? -Andy
...more exploration dives ?
...more easy to travel ?
...more suitable for newbie bimbling dives ?
...more safe ?
...more damage to the bank account ?
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Old 25th March 2006, 04:16   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Compare Buddy inspiration to CCR OROBOROUS

Out of curiosity, guys, what exactly can the Inspiration do that the Ouroboros can't?
Other than get you in the water for less than $10K?
Which, if someone considers the Boris in the first place is probably not much of an argument.

The Ouroboros has the edge on scrubber duration and features such as gas management, more advanced HUD and buddy display. The only feature I can think of that only the Inspo offers is the temp stick.

Both are rather large and heavy and travelling with either will be an expensive pita.
Not convinient, but possible, Inspo divers have been hauling their rigs around the globe and Mike, I asume you'll take you Boris back with you rather than leave it in the UK for me to play with on my next visit.

For recreational limits one can argue both are overkill and both have been used in excess of their rated depths, scrubber times, in overhead environs ... you name it. Looks like the Boris has the edge on the extreme end as none that I know has imploded yet. Then again, that depth is way past most divers needs and limits.

The main difference for most practical puposes are the location of the counterlungs and the different electronics. Both are more personal preference than anything else. Some people will prefer the likely lower and more even WOB on the Inspo, others will insist on uncluttered chest and enclosed lungs.

The Boris has a single setpoint controller and separate pO2 monitor and separate power supplies whereas the Inspo has dual dependend controllers and joint power supply.

The electronics in and by themselves make the Ouroboros the superior rebreather in my opinion. As do the radial scrubber and the additional features. The only setback is that they do cost quite a bit of money.

So IMHO the Ouroboros is hands down the better rebreather.
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Old 25th March 2006, 04:21   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Compare Buddy inspiration to CCR OROBOROUS

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...more exploration dives ?
...more easy to travel ?
...more suitable for newbie bimbling dives ?
...more safe ?
...more damage to the bank account ?


Hi Phi, like I said-Which can do more?
...More expolration-Boris.
...More easy to travel with? Both fit into suitcases, close call.
...More easily confuse a newbie? Boris.
...More safe? Boris.
...Bank acct. damage? Boris by a knockout.
See Phi, Boris takes the cake!
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Re: Compare Buddy inspiration to CCR OROBOROUS

Ah, but wait till AP comes out with their new rebreather named Expedition.

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Re: Compare Buddy inspiration to CCR OROBOROUS

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Ah, but wait till AP comes out with their new rebreahter named Expedition.
First off, "wait till AP" is aready bad advice. They take their jolly time.

Second, unless they completely change the electronics layout, which I rather doubt, the Ouroboros will stay ahead in my opinion.

If you wanna wait till, wait till Closed Circuit Research offers their BOB. It'll probably cost the other arm and leg, but you can get rid of all the stages and it may well arrive before the Expedition.
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Re: Compare Buddy inspiration to CCR OROBOROUS

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Ah, but wait till AP comes out with their new rebreahter named Expedition.


Hi Dave, you are one of my favorite YBOD divers as you are articulate and experienced. Unlike your coarse brethern, who speak in monosylables and spend most of their time looking for all-you-can-eat-buffets and dog fights... But, if "Expedition" means bigger, like the Ford, then I'd bet that you've all been out looking for a pub that has Watney's Red Barrel, and found it...

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