rebreather diver's dream

Marc T · 13th March 2006, 09:05

Looking at that, I had a dream

http://www.oceanicworldwide.com/p_co..._iddm.html#top

turning the useless ( for us ) wireless pressure transmiter into a ppo2 transmitter

Any thought

?

Marc T · 13th March 2006, 09:20

Sorry, see that on next page ( development story ) so stop dreaming, just have to wait and certainly begin to save some money

"An IDDM system could also be modified for the US Navy MK-16 or similar UBA for use by EOD divers. Adapting the IDDM into a full facemask configuration is also possible. This future integrated full facemask system could potentially provide the EOD diver with depth, bottom time, cylinder pressure, oxygen level (PPO 2 ), and battery status without large wrist-mounted displays"

rogeringebo · 13th March 2006, 09:56

If that can be reliable.....Im interested.....

***caveseeker7*** · 13th March 2006, 16:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by Marc T)

turning the useless ( for us ) wireless pressure transmiter into a ppo2 transmitter

Any thought

?

That wireless pO2 idea is sooo cool, why didn't Uwatec think of it 10 years ago ...

wizbang · 13th March 2006, 20:15

Why did they leave it there instead up running with the ball for the rest of us.
I have always said a reliable wireless PPO2 would be awesome.

Jason Blackwell · 13th March 2006, 20:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by wizbang)

Why did they leave it there instead up running with the ball for the rest of us.
I have always said a reliable wireless PPO2 would be awesome.

I think it is quite simple really, alot of divers still do not trust wireless transmissions.

How many times do you see it in O/C forums comments about "not trusting the wireless transmissions ....so i added a SPG....and another computer".
Most tek divers shunned wireless stuff, went to the BP&W, minimized everything else and the manufacturers said "stuff it...the market isn't there"

and the above is from personal observations when diving my o/c days diving a Vytec and getting strange comments

***caveseeker7*** · 13th March 2006, 21:02

Personally, I liked the Uwatec ZO2/Oxy2 combo when I tried it.
Shame they don't make a decent pO2/mix computer.

The wireless setup does have some advantages, no pesky cable running
along the arm, less to entangle, no connector seals to fail.
As long as transmission can be reaquired it shouldn't really be much of a
problem as long as the diver is made aware of the interuption.

In the meantime a pre-set pO2 can kick in, something plenty of divers
use anyway.

Marc T · 14th March 2006, 07:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

That wireless pO2 idea is sooo cool, why didn't Uwatec think of it 10 years ago ...

Oh hum, yes, i know its not a real new idea in the world of the rebreather ( dont want to say in the rebreatherworld

).

The "idea" wasnt to create a wireless pO2, but simply to turn a much common system ( tank pressure wireless transmiter ) into a po2 transmitter.

The place of this thread is perhaps home made rebreather.

But Im also curious of what rebreather divers think about wireless transmitters.

Personnaly Im also very excited by HUD _mask with all the important infos
( depth, dive time , PO2 ) that you can read in muddy water independantly of wireless trans mitter

***caveseeker7*** · 14th March 2006, 09:48

I think they're fine as long as they're not the only means.
On a SCR that's okay as it's not really needed.
On CCRs you usually have redundancy in displays anyway.
As long as I have a reliable backup(s) I wouldn't mind.

PCDiver · 14th March 2006, 10:35

Has anybody got info about a reliable, secure,two-way short range underwater communication protocol (bluetooth functionality)?

My dreamsystem is a central controller + backup contoller/trimix computer inside the rebreather that communicates with the handsets, hud, head-up-display in mask, buddy device on the back, monitor device for instructor, ... without wires. No wire clutter and smaller handsets.

Is this science-fiction?

Peter

13th March 2006, 09:05	#1 (permalink)
Marc T hell is in the details Current Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet RB80 / Clone Home Build Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: FRANCE Carcassonne Posts: 440	rebreather diver's dream Looking at that, I had a dream http://www.oceanicworldwide.com/p_co..._iddm.html#top turning the useless ( for us ) wireless pressure transmiter into a ppo2 transmitter Any thought ?
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13th March 2006, 09:20	#2 (permalink)
Marc T hell is in the details Current Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet RB80 / Clone Home Build Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: FRANCE Carcassonne Posts: 440	Re: rebreather diver's dream Sorry, see that on next page ( development story ) so stop dreaming, just have to wait and certainly begin to save some money "An IDDM system could also be modified for the US Navy MK-16 or similar UBA for use by EOD divers. Adapting the IDDM into a full facemask configuration is also possible. This future integrated full facemask system could potentially provide the EOD diver with depth, bottom time, cylinder pressure, oxygen level (PPO 2 ), and battery status without large wrist-mounted displays"
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13th March 2006, 09:56	#3 (permalink)
rogeringebo Done with bubbles Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 674	Re: rebreather diver's dream If that can be reliable.....Im interested.....
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13th March 2006, 16:52	#4 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,325	Re: thought Quote: (Originally Posted by Marc T) turning the useless ( for us ) wireless pressure transmiter into a ppo2 transmitter Any thought ? That wireless pO2 idea is sooo cool, why didn't Uwatec think of it 10 years ago ... __________________ Cheers Stefan "It is still a good day if you are on the green side of the grass! Su amigo Roberto!" Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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13th March 2006, 20:15	#5 (permalink)
wizbang WEB MERMEN Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 379	Re: rebreather diver's dream Why did they leave it there instead up running with the ball for the rest of us. I have always said a reliable wireless PPO2 would be awesome.
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13th March 2006, 20:40	#6 (permalink)
Jason Blackwell Bloody Rebreathers! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima Dolphin Ray Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, AUSTRALIA Posts: 361	Re: rebreather diver's dream Quote: (Originally Posted by wizbang) Why did they leave it there instead up running with the ball for the rest of us. I have always said a reliable wireless PPO2 would be awesome. I think it is quite simple really, alot of divers still do not trust wireless transmissions. How many times do you see it in O/C forums comments about "not trusting the wireless transmissions ....so i added a SPG....and another computer". Most tek divers shunned wireless stuff, went to the BP&W, minimized everything else and the manufacturers said "stuff it...the market isn't there" and the above is from personal observations when diving my o/c days diving a Vytec and getting strange comments __________________ Jason Blackwell TDI Instructor Trainer #1358 Optima...Inspiration/Evolution...KISS...and what is next??? www.divedivedive.com.au OZTeK '09 March 2009 Sydney, Australia www.diveoztek.com.au
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13th March 2006, 21:02	#7 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,325	Re: rebreather diver's dream Personally, I liked the Uwatec ZO2/Oxy2 combo when I tried it. Shame they don't make a decent pO2/mix computer. The wireless setup does have some advantages, no pesky cable running along the arm, less to entangle, no connector seals to fail. As long as transmission can be reaquired it shouldn't really be much of a problem as long as the diver is made aware of the interuption. In the meantime a pre-set pO2 can kick in, something plenty of divers use anyway. __________________ Cheers Stefan "It is still a good day if you are on the green side of the grass! Su amigo Roberto!" Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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14th March 2006, 07:54	#8 (permalink)
Marc T hell is in the details Current Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet RB80 / Clone Home Build Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: FRANCE Carcassonne Posts: 440	Re: thought Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) That wireless pO2 idea is sooo cool, why didn't Uwatec think of it 10 years ago ... Oh hum, yes, i know its not a real new idea in the world of the rebreather ( dont want to say in the rebreatherworld ). The "idea" wasnt to create a wireless pO2, but simply to turn a much common system ( tank pressure wireless transmiter ) into a po2 transmitter. The place of this thread is perhaps home made rebreather. But Im also curious of what rebreather divers think about wireless transmitters. Personnaly Im also very excited by HUD _mask with all the important infos ( depth, dive time , PO2 ) that you can read in muddy water independantly of wireless trans mitter
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14th March 2006, 09:48	#9 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,325	Re: rebreather diver's dream I think they're fine as long as they're not the only means. On a SCR that's okay as it's not really needed. On CCRs you usually have redundancy in displays anyway. As long as I have a reliable backup(s) I wouldn't mind. __________________ Cheers Stefan "It is still a good day if you are on the green side of the grass! Su amigo Roberto!" Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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14th March 2006, 10:35	#10 (permalink)
PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 909	Re: rebreather diver's dream Has anybody got info about a reliable, secure,two-way short range underwater communication protocol (bluetooth functionality)? My dreamsystem is a central controller + backup contoller/trimix computer inside the rebreather that communicates with the handsets, hud, head-up-display in mask, buddy device on the back, monitor device for instructor, ... without wires. No wire clutter and smaller handsets. Is this science-fiction? Peter
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