Pick Two!

Nick uk. · 7th March 2006, 19:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Faye)

Ok I need some input. Lets say you are buying 2 CCRs around the same time. Which 2? Really think about it. They will both be used in all types of dives, warm and clear and dark and cold. Recreational, tech and expedition. One will be used 50% at home and 50% for traveling. The other mostly at home with some traveling thrown in. Both must be trimix capable and rated to at least 100 meters.

So do you go with:

1. Inspo and Evo. Basically same training and rig. Easy to switch back and forth.

2. Evo and Meg. Ok, have to do the cross-over training and get use to the differences. One is small and light the other modular and will perform well on expedition type dives.

3. Two of the same model. Makes training easy but all systems have strengths and weaknesses. Should I try to get the benefits offered by different designs.

4. Prism? Dive Rite? Boris?

5. Or, just stick with one and don't be a greedy bastard!

I know many of you are diving 2 or 3 different units. All info is appreciated.

moooo

SHIIIIIT' it took me all my time to choose the right 'ONE' !!!

Dave Faye · 7th March 2006, 19:54

Thanks for all the great input.

Anyone know what the wait time is on a Meg?

**Gill Envy** · 7th March 2006, 21:46

I'm just at the beginning of this but am fresh with ideas from spending four months pouring over my decision on which two to buy (one for my wife and one for me that is). i've had multiple pool try outs on four units, the inspo, sport kiss, kiss classic and the optima. I've had many discussions and show and tell with a friend and his meg. I finally went with the evolution. I grappled with the modularity benefits of the meg, it's bullet proof construction vs the alluring vision electronics of the evolution. I really wanted integrated deco electronics, really like the temp stick and realized that cost wise, if starting from scratch, it's pretty much a wash between the two. I don't forsee needing a huge capacity for any one dive. After seeing the travel frame, I realized that if I really want modularity I can mix and match canister and tanks

between the evolution and inspiration on the travel frame down the line to get more extended range. So, maybe you should consider going with two evo's, or a used inspo and a new evolution, and a travel frame. i'm not a hundred percent sure that the heads are interchangable between pre and post vision e's and am assuming that the valves on the 19cf inspo tanks are compatable so definitely double check that if this perks your interest. Otherwise, if not, Maybe you could purchase a new evo and buy the inspiration's scrubber and 19cf tanks, that way you'd have lots of flexibility, unless you actually need to have two with you on one dive. Oh, and as far as i can tell from reading around here, if you go with the evo/vision e's definitely get the nitrox/trimix version to avoid the bugs.
You might also read up on the hammer meg if you want deco e's on the meg right now but i've heard that warrenties might be an issue, so double check that. rumor has it integrated deco is in the works.
I should probably keep my mouth shut till i actually have first hand experience, but thought my two cents might be worthy food for though.
g

Nick uk. · 7th March 2006, 21:57

I've givern this thread some serious thought now, well basicly because it seems to have created interest, but....the only reason i can think of why a bloke might wan't to buy two rebreathers is the same as why a dog licks it's own B@ll@cks.................because he can!

And why on earth would you buy two units the same?????? If not for spare parts.....see above!

Philippe GERIN · 8th March 2006, 14:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Faye)

Ok I need some input. Lets say you are buying 2 CCRs around the same time. Which 2?

moooo

Boris + BOB Boris

Best
Philippe

NEwreckdiver · 8th March 2006, 14:14

Hi all -

This is my first post here, but I wanted to jump in because this thread could partly about about "pick one" - what goes into choosing a rebreather? Since I'm new to rebreather diving, I've spent a lot of time researching and asking questions before finally making my choice.

Dave, the questions I'd ask myself (and did ask myself) include:

What do I want to do with this rig (deep, long, both, wrecks, caves, etc)?
How long am I willing to wait for it/when do I need it?
How is the rig engineered (design features, does this support ques #1)?
How many man hours are on it (is it new, tried and tested, any independent testing)?
What design features are really most important to me for 1) safety and 2) the diving I intend to do with it?
What is the support like (ease of getting parts, other divers using it)?
Do I plan to travel with it frequently?

Depending on how you rank the order of importance of these questions, you will definitely include some rigs and exclude others.

Cheers,
Heather Knowles

Explorer · 8th March 2006, 14:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Faye)

Ok I need some input. Lets say you are buying 2 CCRs around the same time. Which 2?

I bought the Meg to do everything I will ever need for CCR, especially because it is modular. But, if I had to pick two different ones, then the Ouroboros for the extreme dives and the Megalodon for travel.

Have fun with your choice.

7th March 2006, 19:31	#11 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 579	Re: Pick Two! Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Faye) Ok I need some input. Lets say you are buying 2 CCRs around the same time. Which 2? Really think about it. They will both be used in all types of dives, warm and clear and dark and cold. Recreational, tech and expedition. One will be used 50% at home and 50% for traveling. The other mostly at home with some traveling thrown in. Both must be trimix capable and rated to at least 100 meters. So do you go with: 1. Inspo and Evo. Basically same training and rig. Easy to switch back and forth. 2. Evo and Meg. Ok, have to do the cross-over training and get use to the differences. One is small and light the other modular and will perform well on expedition type dives. 3. Two of the same model. Makes training easy but all systems have strengths and weaknesses. Should I try to get the benefits offered by different designs. 4. Prism? Dive Rite? Boris? 5. Or, just stick with one and don't be a greedy bastard! I know many of you are diving 2 or 3 different units. All info is appreciated. moooo SHIIIIIT' it took me all my time to choose the right 'ONE' !!! __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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7th March 2006, 19:54	#12 (permalink)
Dave Faye Know the wreck below? Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Megalodon Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 166	Re: Pick Two! Thanks for all the great input. Anyone know what the wait time is on a Meg?
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7th March 2006, 21:46	#13 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Diver Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,302	Re: Pick Two! I'm just at the beginning of this but am fresh with ideas from spending four months pouring over my decision on which two to buy (one for my wife and one for me that is). i've had multiple pool try outs on four units, the inspo, sport kiss, kiss classic and the optima. I've had many discussions and show and tell with a friend and his meg. I finally went with the evolution. I grappled with the modularity benefits of the meg, it's bullet proof construction vs the alluring vision electronics of the evolution. I really wanted integrated deco electronics, really like the temp stick and realized that cost wise, if starting from scratch, it's pretty much a wash between the two. I don't forsee needing a huge capacity for any one dive. After seeing the travel frame, I realized that if I really want modularity I can mix and match canister and tanks between the evolution and inspiration on the travel frame down the line to get more extended range. So, maybe you should consider going with two evo's, or a used inspo and a new evolution, and a travel frame. i'm not a hundred percent sure that the heads are interchangable between pre and post vision e's and am assuming that the valves on the 19cf inspo tanks are compatable so definitely double check that if this perks your interest. Otherwise, if not, Maybe you could purchase a new evo and buy the inspiration's scrubber and 19cf tanks, that way you'd have lots of flexibility, unless you actually need to have two with you on one dive. Oh, and as far as i can tell from reading around here, if you go with the evo/vision e's definitely get the nitrox/trimix version to avoid the bugs. You might also read up on the hammer meg if you want deco e's on the meg right now but i've heard that warrenties might be an issue, so double check that. rumor has it integrated deco is in the works. I should probably keep my mouth shut till i actually have first hand experience, but thought my two cents might be worthy food for though. g __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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7th March 2006, 21:57	#14 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 579	Re: Pick Two! I've givern this thread some serious thought now, well basicly because it seems to have created interest, but....the only reason i can think of why a bloke might wan't to buy two rebreathers is the same as why a dog licks it's own B@ll@cks.................because he can! And why on earth would you buy two units the same?????? If not for spare parts.....see above! __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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8th March 2006, 14:01	#15 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 633	Re: Pick Two! Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Faye) Ok I need some input. Lets say you are buying 2 CCRs around the same time. Which 2? moooo Boris + BOB Boris Best Philippe
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8th March 2006, 14:14	#16 (permalink)
NEwreckdiver New Member Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Boston MA Posts: 43	Re: Pick Two! Hi all - This is my first post here, but I wanted to jump in because this thread could partly about about "pick one" - what goes into choosing a rebreather? Since I'm new to rebreather diving, I've spent a lot of time researching and asking questions before finally making my choice. Dave, the questions I'd ask myself (and did ask myself) include: What do I want to do with this rig (deep, long, both, wrecks, caves, etc)? How long am I willing to wait for it/when do I need it? How is the rig engineered (design features, does this support ques #1)? How many man hours are on it (is it new, tried and tested, any independent testing)? What design features are really most important to me for 1) safety and 2) the diving I intend to do with it? What is the support like (ease of getting parts, other divers using it)? Do I plan to travel with it frequently? Depending on how you rank the order of importance of these questions, you will definitely include some rigs and exclude others. Cheers, Heather Knowles
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8th March 2006, 14:15	#17 (permalink)
Explorer I will teach you a..... Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 762	Re: Pick Two! Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Faye) Ok I need some input. Lets say you are buying 2 CCRs around the same time. Which 2? I bought the Meg to do everything I will ever need for CCR, especially because it is modular. But, if I had to pick two different ones, then the Ouroboros for the extreme dives and the Megalodon for travel. Have fun with your choice. __________________ REALLY FRICKIN' TRAIN WRECKED.....
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