Travel frame

sharky · 22nd February 2006, 13:33

Just bought a travel frame, and I'm looking at options for mounting the cylinders. Has anyone any suggestions other than cam bands?

VTR · 22nd February 2006, 14:13

I think you'll find that cam bands are the easiest, lightest way. I've never had a problem with them as yet with using 5 litre cylinders.
Trying to put quick release style fittings such as the Northern Diver/Metalsub brackets will bring it's own problems & add weight to the frame, which would defeat the object of getting a lightweight frame for travelling!!!

Just curious, why not use cam bands? or are you just looking for alternatives for to make a decision?

Cheers

Giles

Mark Chase · 22nd February 2006, 14:22

Tried the cam bands and didn't trust them so I went for Jubilee clips. OK you need a screw driver to undo them but I a,ways have a little tool kit with me so thats not a problem.

I have the dedicated set of 3ltr clips and one set which will do all other sizes.

The weight is insignificant.

ATB

Mark Chase

***Beanie*** · 22nd February 2006, 14:25

Cam bands, OK so I've not used them on the travel frame but I have used them in similar set ups.

I modified mine see here to stop them popping open.

**woody** · 22nd February 2006, 18:02

Jan Willem Bech's website is a mine of information on this frame, he used Scubapro cinch bands as did i after seeing his, they are very good and are positive locking. They are little expensive and they have now been modified so maybe dificult to fit to 3L cylinders. As they are expensive check that they are adjustable before buying.

Website link http://www.therebreathersite.nl/travelframe.htm

R

Mike

sharky · 23rd February 2006, 08:21

The reason I'm interested in using something else is no one seems to make a cam band suitable for 3 litre cylinders. I bought 2 from AP which are supposed to work, but they are too long, the velcro's in the wrong place, and the locking mechanism isn't particularly impressive. If I have to use them, they'll have to be modified, and I don't have an industrial sewing machine!

***Beanie*** · 23rd February 2006, 08:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by sharky)

The reason I'm interested in using something else is no one seems to make a cam band suitable for 3 litre cylinders. I bought 2 from AP which are supposed to work, but they are too long, the velcro's in the wrong place, and the locking mechanism isn't particularly impressive. If I have to use them, they'll have to be modified, and I don't have an industrial sewing machine!

You don't need the velcro to be honest

I modified mine see here to stop them popping open.

You can get 3 litre sized ones from AP - the pony ones

jhaaja · 23rd February 2006, 08:31

You can also glue the velcros to correct places after you have cut the band to correct length.

The velcros are not necessary if you bend the lock on the band but they make sure that the lock won`t accidentally open.

I have mine set up like that and I was actually able to put some weights on the band while diving at Red Sea. I did not need to use a weight belt.

sharky · 23rd February 2006, 08:38

I have been using the AP on-board cylinder mounting system on my EVO box. Any reason why I shouldn't adapt this to fit the travel frame? It really doesn't weigh that much.

***Beanie*** · 23rd February 2006, 08:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by sharky)

I have been using the AP on-board cylinder mounting system on my EVO box. Any reason why I shouldn't adapt this to fit the travel frame? It really doesn't weigh that much.

Easy answer try it, I think that you won't get the tightness required though.

22nd February 2006, 13:33	#1 (permalink)
sharky New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England Posts: 3	Travel frame Just bought a travel frame, and I'm looking at options for mounting the cylinders. Has anyone any suggestions other than cam bands? __________________ EVO-PILOT
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22nd February 2006, 14:13	#2 (permalink)
VTR New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Devon Posts: 39	Re: Travel frame I think you'll find that cam bands are the easiest, lightest way. I've never had a problem with them as yet with using 5 litre cylinders. Trying to put quick release style fittings such as the Northern Diver/Metalsub brackets will bring it's own problems & add weight to the frame, which would defeat the object of getting a lightweight frame for travelling!!! Just curious, why not use cam bands? or are you just looking for alternatives for to make a decision? Cheers Giles
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22nd February 2006, 14:22	#3 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,470	Re: Travel frame Tried the cam bands and didn't trust them so I went for Jubilee clips. OK you need a screw driver to undo them but I a,ways have a little tool kit with me so thats not a problem. I have the dedicated set of 3ltr clips and one set which will do all other sizes. The weight is insignificant. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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22nd February 2006, 14:25	#4 (permalink)
*Beanie* Politeness officer Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,159	Re: Travel frame Cam bands, OK so I've not used them on the travel frame but I have used them in similar set ups. I modified mine see here to stop them popping open. __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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22nd February 2006, 18:02	#5 (permalink)
woody Mmmm Rubber!! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wiltshire UK Posts: 192	Re: Travel frame Jan Willem Bech's website is a mine of information on this frame, he used Scubapro cinch bands as did i after seeing his, they are very good and are positive locking. They are little expensive and they have now been modified so maybe dificult to fit to 3L cylinders. As they are expensive check that they are adjustable before buying. Website link http://www.therebreathersite.nl/travelframe.htm R Mike __________________ Not eloquent enough for a smart arse signature!
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23rd February 2006, 08:21	#6 (permalink)
sharky New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England Posts: 3	Re: Travel frame The reason I'm interested in using something else is no one seems to make a cam band suitable for 3 litre cylinders. I bought 2 from AP which are supposed to work, but they are too long, the velcro's in the wrong place, and the locking mechanism isn't particularly impressive. If I have to use them, they'll have to be modified, and I don't have an industrial sewing machine! __________________ EVO-PILOT
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23rd February 2006, 08:27	#7 (permalink)
*Beanie* Politeness officer Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,159	Re: Travel frame Quote: (Originally Posted by sharky) The reason I'm interested in using something else is no one seems to make a cam band suitable for 3 litre cylinders. I bought 2 from AP which are supposed to work, but they are too long, the velcro's in the wrong place, and the locking mechanism isn't particularly impressive. If I have to use them, they'll have to be modified, and I don't have an industrial sewing machine! You don't need the velcro to be honest I modified mine see here to stop them popping open. You can get 3 litre sized ones from AP - the pony ones __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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23rd February 2006, 08:31	#8 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 867	Re: Travel frame You can also glue the velcros to correct places after you have cut the band to correct length. The velcros are not necessary if you bend the lock on the band but they make sure that the lock won`t accidentally open. I have mine set up like that and I was actually able to put some weights on the band while diving at Red Sea. I did not need to use a weight belt.
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23rd February 2006, 08:38	#9 (permalink)
sharky New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England Posts: 3	Re: Travel frame I have been using the AP on-board cylinder mounting system on my EVO box. Any reason why I shouldn't adapt this to fit the travel frame? It really doesn't weigh that much. __________________ EVO-PILOT
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23rd February 2006, 08:40	#10 (permalink)
*Beanie* Politeness officer Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,159	Re: Travel frame Quote: (Originally Posted by sharky) I have been using the AP on-board cylinder mounting system on my EVO box. Any reason why I shouldn't adapt this to fit the travel frame? It really doesn't weigh that much. Easy answer try it, I think that you won't get the tightness required though. __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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