To buy a Inspiration without certification?

bubnotbub · 19th February 2006, 07:25

Yesterday I met a diver who dictates to me to have bought a Inspiration directly from AP without to have made a course, but only signing a Waiver & Release of Liability.

Is this a possible procedure?

If this were true, you think it is corrected?

Regards

Aldo

divetheworld · 19th February 2006, 07:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub)

If this were true, you think it is correct?

Regards

Aldo

be careful you dont provoke the wrath of the homebuilders my friend, you'll get you bum smacked!!

Brent.

Oh, by the way, covered in the link below in a very dynamic conversation many moons ago. Probably not worth repeating if you know what I mean. I think everything has been said.
http://www.yorkshire-divers.com/foru...-2005-a-4.html

bubnotbub · 19th February 2006, 08:23

Sorry
I do not have nothing against the homebuilders!

I manufacture something too.

But a homebuilders before manufacturing, he inquires, test, factory and knows its unit perfectly.

Here we speak about persons whom before buy the unit, he did not know nothing on rebreather and had not never tried one.

Regards

Aldo

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld)

be careful you dont provoke the wrath of the homebuilders my friend, you'll get you bum smacked!!

Brent.

Oh, by the way, covered in the link below in a very dynamic conversation many moons ago. Probably not worth repeating if you know what I mean. I think everything has been said.
http://www.yorkshire-divers.com/foru...-2005-a-4.html

bubnotbub · 19th February 2006, 08:29

And I would want to know if it is true, or if the person has raccontanto one to me false history

Aldo

bubnotbub · 19th February 2006, 08:31

Sorry

racccontato = told

Aldo

divetheworld · 19th February 2006, 09:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub)

Sorry
I do not have nothing against the homebuilders!

At last someone who recognises my greatness

Just kidding.

Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub)

Here we speak about persons whom before buy the unit, he did not know nothing on rebreather and had not never tried one.

Regards

Aldo

There is an old saying which related to an old, now deceased gentleman called Darwin.
Only problem is, natural selection does little to help the rebreather fraternity. It only goes to help those who see them as boxes of death and creates the negative image that will prevent the industry from growing in the way we all know it should.
I suppose there are also those who believe it is self serving to demonise the Rebreather to make them look like dive gods, best keep those types to ourselves or it will end up like DIR or armchair cave divers.

Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub)

Sorry

racccontato = told

Aldo

Dont worry too much about the translation. We have Londoners on here, and we cant understand them buggers sometimes!!

***EBT*** · 19th February 2006, 10:49

Far be it for me to comment, but I happen to know of someone who bought an inspiration from the factory when they werent qualified on that particular CCR.

I guess like any system there will always be exceptions.....

iani · 19th February 2006, 12:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub)

<snip>

Here we speak about persons whom before buy the unit, he did not know nothing on rebreather and had not never tried one.

</snip>

Nor has he helped to line the pockets on an Instructor, or indeed an Instructor Trainer, how terrible

There is no "dive police" nor do the majority of us want one thank you very much.

Ian

Genesis · 19th February 2006, 16:55

So what?

All one should need to buy a thing is money. If you wish to purchase training, then you should purchase training. Said "thing" should come with a user's manual sufficient for someone "ordinarily skilled" to use the device.

You might want to look into a thing called "illegal tied sales" if we're talking about the US anyway - that sort of thing is kinda illegal in this country..... and may be in some others too....

**woody** · 19th February 2006, 17:03

There is no "dive police" nor do the majority of us want one thank you very much.

Ian[/quote]

Ian, the dive police operate in a covert way i have had the pleasure of meeting one of them and it was not good! They are there trust me!

R

Mike

19th February 2006, 07:25	#1 (permalink)
bubnotbub Silent diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Italy Posts: 383	To buy a Inspiration without certification? Yesterday I met a diver who dictates to me to have bought a Inspiration directly from AP without to have made a course, but only signing a Waiver & Release of Liability. Is this a possible procedure? If this were true, you think it is corrected? Regards Aldo __________________ Aldo Ferrucci *Trimix and Rebreather IT* *Expedition Leader* *www.bubnotbub.com* I like bubbles only in my glass of Champagne
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19th February 2006, 07:56	#2 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,525	Re: To buy a Inspiration without certification? Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub) If this were true, you think it is correct? Regards Aldo be careful you dont provoke the wrath of the homebuilders my friend, you'll get you bum smacked!! Brent. Oh, by the way, covered in the link below in a very dynamic conversation many moons ago. Probably not worth repeating if you know what I mean. I think everything has been said. http://www.yorkshire-divers.com/foru...-2005-a-4.html __________________ Self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe Last edited by divetheworld : 19th February 2006 at 08:09.
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19th February 2006, 08:23	#3 (permalink)
bubnotbub Silent diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Italy Posts: 383	Re: To buy a Inspiration without certification? Sorry I do not have nothing against the homebuilders! I manufacture something too. But a homebuilders before manufacturing, he inquires, test, factory and knows its unit perfectly. Here we speak about persons whom before buy the unit, he did not know nothing on rebreather and had not never tried one. Regards Aldo Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld) be careful you dont provoke the wrath of the homebuilders my friend, you'll get you bum smacked!! Brent. Oh, by the way, covered in the link below in a very dynamic conversation many moons ago. Probably not worth repeating if you know what I mean. I think everything has been said. http://www.yorkshire-divers.com/foru...-2005-a-4.html __________________ Aldo Ferrucci *Trimix and Rebreather IT* *Expedition Leader* *www.bubnotbub.com* I like bubbles only in my glass of Champagne
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19th February 2006, 08:29	#4 (permalink)
bubnotbub Silent diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Italy Posts: 383	Re: To buy a Inspiration without certification? And I would want to know if it is true, or if the person has raccontanto one to me false history Aldo __________________ Aldo Ferrucci *Trimix and Rebreather IT* *Expedition Leader* *www.bubnotbub.com* I like bubbles only in my glass of Champagne
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19th February 2006, 08:31	#5 (permalink)
bubnotbub Silent diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Italy Posts: 383	Re: To buy a Inspiration without certification? Sorry racccontato = told Aldo __________________ Aldo Ferrucci *Trimix and Rebreather IT* *Expedition Leader* *www.bubnotbub.com* I like bubbles only in my glass of Champagne
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19th February 2006, 09:53	#6 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,525	Re: To buy a Inspiration without certification? Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub) Sorry I do not have nothing against the homebuilders! At last someone who recognises my greatness Just kidding. Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub) Here we speak about persons whom before buy the unit, he did not know nothing on rebreather and had not never tried one. Regards Aldo There is an old saying which related to an old, now deceased gentleman called Darwin. Only problem is, natural selection does little to help the rebreather fraternity. It only goes to help those who see them as boxes of death and creates the negative image that will prevent the industry from growing in the way we all know it should. I suppose there are also those who believe it is self serving to demonise the Rebreather to make them look like dive gods, best keep those types to ourselves or it will end up like DIR or armchair cave divers. Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub) Sorry racccontato = told Aldo Dont worry too much about the translation. We have Londoners on here, and we cant understand them buggers sometimes!! __________________ Self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe Last edited by divetheworld : 19th February 2006 at 09:56.
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19th February 2006, 10:49	#7 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,836	Re: To buy a Inspiration without certification? Far be it for me to comment, but I happen to know of someone who bought an inspiration from the factory when they werent qualified on that particular CCR. I guess like any system there will always be exceptions..... __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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19th February 2006, 12:28	#8 (permalink)
iani Nefarious Activist Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Middlesex, UK Posts: 334	Re: To buy a Inspiration without certification? Quote: (Originally Posted by bubnotbub) <snip> Here we speak about persons whom before buy the unit, he did not know nothing on rebreather and had not never tried one. </snip> Nor has he helped to line the pockets on an Instructor, or indeed an Instructor Trainer, how terrible There is no "dive police" nor do the majority of us want one thank you very much. Ian
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19th February 2006, 16:55	#9 (permalink)
Genesis Bubbless Box of Death Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 1,394	Re: To buy a Inspiration without certification? So what? All one should need to buy a thing is money. If you wish to purchase training, then you should purchase training. Said "thing" should come with a user's manual sufficient for someone "ordinarily skilled" to use the device. You might want to look into a thing called "illegal tied sales" if we're talking about the US anyway - that sort of thing is kinda illegal in this country..... and may be in some others too.... __________________ "A venturesome minority will always be eager to get off on their own, and no obstacles should be placed in their path; let them take risks for Godsake, let them get lost, sunburnt, stranded, drowned, eaten by bears, buried alive under avalanches - that is the right and privilege of any free American." http://www.denninger.net http://www.diversunion.org/liability.htm - Fix the Diving Cert racket
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19th February 2006, 17:03	#10 (permalink)
woody Mmmm Rubber!! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wiltshire UK Posts: 190	Re: To buy a Inspiration without certification? There is no "dive police" nor do the majority of us want one thank you very much. Ian[/quote] Ian, the dive police operate in a covert way i have had the pleasure of meeting one of them and it was not good! They are there trust me! R Mike __________________ Not eloquent enough for a smart arse signature!
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