How Big do I need my Wing

Drmike · 18th February 2006, 10:21

Hey Steven,

I tried a few wings on my MK15.5 but settled on the Dive rite rec wing. (Kevin Denlay uses this as well)

I used to have it on my YBOD as well.

It gives me more than enough lift [wetsuit, 2x12L stages and a porthole clipped to my crotch strap

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Plus its tapered more than most so gives better trim for ass heavy rbs.

To help even more with trim and to help clear the top of the wing from the Rebreather hoses I got my maid to re-stitch the top of the wing narrower (just folded over the inner bag inside - wing cover keeps the shape)

I know Jerome used a halycon wing on his MK15.5 and likes it. I tried it but for me I found it gave rotten trim (not tapered enough) I like a Rebreather wing that is wide at the bottom and narrow at the top.

To make holes in the wing to match and fit to my DIY split backplates I used a soldering Iron.

Like KevinD I too have the dual rec (although obviously Kevins is far older than mine) - but I hated the clutter of the 2nd inflator and wasnt convinced ir was necessary (Id rather shoot a bag if needed) so I blanked it off. I also removed the bungees they arent necessary as the wing doesnt flap around.

Congrats again on your purchase.

Drmike · 18th February 2006, 10:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by SteveL)

am I off the mark with a 60lb OMS??

I think the DR is around 50LB.

pchanning · 18th February 2006, 11:26

A loop flood (perish the thought) will seriously affect ones bouyancy - I would suggest you consider figuring the loss (in litres) of your Rebreather loop and add that to whatever size BC you are happy with.

Personally I have the Custom Divers VBS - I can alter the size of the wing from 45 - 75lb with a few zips - works for me.

HTH
Paul

Andy · 18th February 2006, 21:49

i didnt like the standard ybod wing i didnt feel it gave me enough lift and with a dt box i couldnt get the trim as i wanted so i had a custom divers TDB wing wide bottom and sallow top the trim is much better a i can sit higher out of the water

andy

barney · 19th February 2006, 00:55

Has anyone done any "tests" to see how negative a ccr would be with a worst-case scenario complete flood?

**JPJones** · 19th February 2006, 17:40

Redundant wings are extra drag you really don't need with a rebreather unless you are using heavy steel bailouts. I don't put that much air in my wing even with 2 bailout bottles it's not like diving heavy steel doubles. I use a Dive Rite wreck wing. I have made a 1800 ft swim with a disconnected wing without a problem.

18th February 2006, 10:21	#11 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,157	Re: How Big do I need my Wing Hey Steven, I tried a few wings on my MK15.5 but settled on the Dive rite rec wing. (Kevin Denlay uses this as well) I used to have it on my YBOD as well. It gives me more than enough lift [wetsuit, 2x12L stages and a porthole clipped to my crotch strap ] Plus its tapered more than most so gives better trim for ass heavy rbs. To help even more with trim and to help clear the top of the wing from the Rebreather hoses I got my maid to re-stitch the top of the wing narrower (just folded over the inner bag inside - wing cover keeps the shape) I know Jerome used a halycon wing on his MK15.5 and likes it. I tried it but for me I found it gave rotten trim (not tapered enough) I like a Rebreather wing that is wide at the bottom and narrow at the top. To make holes in the wing to match and fit to my DIY split backplates I used a soldering Iron. Like KevinD I too have the dual rec (although obviously Kevins is far older than mine) - but I hated the clutter of the 2nd inflator and wasnt convinced ir was necessary (Id rather shoot a bag if needed) so I blanked it off. I also removed the bungees they arent necessary as the wing doesnt flap around. Congrats again on your purchase. __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment Last edited by Drmike : 18th February 2006 at 10:36.
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18th February 2006, 10:25	#12 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,157	Re: How Big do I need my Wing Quote: (Originally Posted by SteveL) am I off the mark with a 60lb OMS?? I think the DR is around 50LB. __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment Last edited by Drmike : 18th February 2006 at 10:34.
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18th February 2006, 11:26	#13 (permalink)
pchanning PFO free :) Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: fixed! Posts: 454	Re: How Big do I need my Wing A loop flood (perish the thought) will seriously affect ones bouyancy - I would suggest you consider figuring the loss (in litres) of your Rebreather loop and add that to whatever size BC you are happy with. Personally I have the Custom Divers VBS - I can alter the size of the wing from 45 - 75lb with a few zips - works for me. HTH Paul __________________ Cheers Paul The key to enlightenment... is survival.
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18th February 2006, 21:49	#14 (permalink)
Andy New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stanwick (UK) Posts: 48	Re: How Big do I need my Wing i didnt like the standard ybod wing i didnt feel it gave me enough lift and with a dt box i couldnt get the trim as i wanted so i had a custom divers TDB wing wide bottom and sallow top the trim is much better a i can sit higher out of the water andy
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19th February 2006, 00:55	#15 (permalink)
barney Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 270	Re: How Big do I need my Wing Has anyone done any "tests" to see how negative a ccr would be with a worst-case scenario complete flood? __________________ Michael C. Barnette ASSOCIATION OF UNDERWATER EXPLORERS
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19th February 2006, 17:40	#16 (permalink)
JPJones O2ptima Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Optima Titan Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 367	Re: How Big do I need my Wing Redundant wings are extra drag you really don't need with a rebreather unless you are using heavy steel bailouts. I don't put that much air in my wing even with 2 bailout bottles it's not like diving heavy steel doubles. I use a Dive Rite wreck wing. I have made a 1800 ft swim with a disconnected wing without a problem. __________________ NSS/CDS Training Chairman www.jpjscuba.com
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