Sidemount - up there with scooters and HID lights

AMW · 3rd February 2006, 11:48

> What do you wear for bouyancy lift, if your wearing a wet suit?

I can clip a wing to my harness (no back plate) in most English and Welsh sumps I do not use any buoyancy control device. the sumps are not that deep and normally small in size one meter high (or less) you can always crawl home :-) Some times I use a dry suit and that takes care of bouyancy.
Andrew.

Duncan Price · 3rd February 2006, 12:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by Curt Bowen)

What do you wear for bouyancy lift, if your wearing a wet suit?

Either nothing (get yourself correctly weighted), clip on a wing (which can be held down nicely) or (if you don't like stuff on your back) wear a jacket type BC.

Like this:

http://www.sump4.com/photos/05061210.jpg (489 kb)

or this

http://www.sump4.com/photos/05051402.jpg (687 kb)

in fact my backplate/wing combo has waist and shoulder attachments to sidemount cylinders direct. In my case I dive with backmounted bailout and sidemounted rebreather (one side) and O2 (the other) with dil fed from the backmounts.

All you need to add (bilateral) sidemounted bailouts to a backplate/wing is a hip D-ring each side and a bit of elastic from your backplate around to a clip to your shoulder D-rings as below attached.

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 3rd February 2006, 20:20

I am clipping normal slider bold clips to my shoulder d-rings just as I did when I side slung the tanks. I do not use the bungee for the tank neck.

Then, I am clipping the tail slider bolt to the butt plate "handles." When I used to side sling them, they would clip onto my waist d-ring.

Drmike · 4th February 2006, 04:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by Curt Bowen)

This is why Jakub is in charge of customer service, and not me :-)

LOL!

Good answer!

***Decodiver*** · 4th February 2006, 16:29

Is it just me having problems with the Golem Gear website?

I tried about a month ago to order an Armadillo but cannot get past the shipping quote in my basket.

I put in France, my post code and then it only accepts half my town and then nothing.

I tried again today and the same thing happened.

So let me ask Jakub a question.........

"Do you want my money or not?"

If you do then please sort out the website.

Thanks,

Dave Cooper.

lof · 4th February 2006, 23:15

Sorry for the problems with the site (that's a first time someone made me aware of this), but:
We will take your money, Dave

Do not worry about the character limit for the City in the Shipping rate calculator. As long as you enter the country and the postal code, it will give you a correct ship rate.
If everyrhing else fails, you can always PM me and I will process your order manually.
A new batch of Armadillos is being manufactured, so it will be 4-5 weeks before they ship.
ArmadilloCCRs are available.

sensor330 · 5th February 2006, 03:56

I just put my YBOD in a travel frame and I thought what the heck while I'm

at it I'll also add a sidemount for my B/O and I have to say I'll never go back

to the standard way of slinging B/O. I was diving in a cave today that has a

pretty good flow going through it and I would have to say since adding the

travel frame and the sidemount kit I expended a lot less energy swimming

into the flow. Can't wait to go back tomorrow since I know now I can make

it further now with my increase swim speed.

Curt Bowen · 5th February 2006, 04:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

Is it just me having problems with the Golem Gear website?

I tried about a month ago to order an Armadillo but cannot get past the shipping quote in my basket.

I put in France, my post code and then it only accepts half my town and then nothing.

I tried again today and the same thing happened.

So let me ask Jakub a question.........

"Do you want my money or not?"

If you do then please sort out the website.

Thanks,

Dave Cooper.

Here is a new idea.

When I have trouble ordering anything, I e-mail or call the company for assistance.

Maybe its a new concept, but it will probably get a quicker responce compared to waiting a month and trying again.

***Decodiver*** · 5th February 2006, 09:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Curt Bowen)

Here is a new idea.

When I have trouble ordering anything, I e-mail or call the company for assistance.

Maybe its a new concept, but it will probably get a quicker responce compared to waiting a month and trying again.

Yeah thanks Curt maybe I should remember to breath out and in every couple of seconds as well.......

I happen to be very very busy at the moment and the Armadillo isn't quite the most important thing on my agenda......

Also, I have tried it again today and it does not work.

When I get back from Morocco next Friday I will PM you Jakub.

Mike · 6th February 2006, 23:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by Duncan Price)

All you need to add (bilateral) sidemounted bailouts to a backplate/wing is a hip D-ring each side and a bit of elastic from your backplate around to a clip to your shoulder D-rings as below attached.

I swapped to using a Dring plate (actually one of Tobin's undercounterlung d-rings) that has the d-ring bit below the waist harness rather than in-line with it. Drops the mounting point a bit lower on your butt (donkey?) and seemed to work a bit better.

Also, running one bit of bungy with loops on each end, rather than two bits of bungy (one each side) means you can stretch each side out in turn to make it easier to slip the loop over the reg / valve on the stage.

I find it easier to attach the clips to the butt D-rings first, then stand up and do the bungy bit with the tanks upright and supported at my waist. If I try and do it sitting down it's a lot harder to get the bungy over the reg/valve. The first one is OK to do but the second is a bit tight.

In the water is a lot easier to remove the tanks - might help you fit back onto the boat easier too.

Mike

3rd February 2006, 11:48	#41 (permalink)
AMW Andrew Martin Ward Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cam ,Glos, England Posts: 171	Re: Sidemount - up there with scooters and HID lights > What do you wear for bouyancy lift, if your wearing a wet suit? I can clip a wing to my harness (no back plate) in most English and Welsh sumps I do not use any buoyancy control device. the sumps are not that deep and normally small in size one meter high (or less) you can always crawl home :-) Some times I use a dry suit and that takes care of bouyancy. Andrew. __________________ AMW Blog (very poor effort :-) http://a-m-ward.blogspot.com/ http://amward.myblogsite.com/ Lot ,France cave diving sites and area resources. www.lot46.com Caving and cave diving photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/amward/
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4th February 2006, 04:25	#44 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,303	Re: Sidemount - up there with scooters and HID lights Quote: (Originally Posted by Curt Bowen) This is why Jakub is in charge of customer service, and not me :-) LOL! Good answer! __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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4th February 2006, 16:29	#45 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,197	Golem Gear website Is it just me having problems with the Golem Gear website? I tried about a month ago to order an Armadillo but cannot get past the shipping quote in my basket. I put in France, my post code and then it only accepts half my town and then nothing. I tried again today and the same thing happened. So let me ask Jakub a question......... "Do you want my money or not?" If you do then please sort out the website. Thanks, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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4th February 2006, 23:15	#46 (permalink)
lof RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 481	Re: Sidemount - up there with scooters and HID lights Sorry for the problems with the site (that's a first time someone made me aware of this), but: We will take your money, Dave Do not worry about the character limit for the City in the Shipping rate calculator. As long as you enter the country and the postal code, it will give you a correct ship rate. If everyrhing else fails, you can always PM me and I will process your order manually. A new batch of Armadillos is being manufactured, so it will be 4-5 weeks before they ship. ArmadilloCCRs are available. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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5th February 2006, 03:56	#47 (permalink)
sensor330 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 581	Re: Sidemount - up there with scooters and HID lights I just put my YBOD in a travel frame and I thought what the heck while I'm at it I'll also add a sidemount for my B/O and I have to say I'll never go back to the standard way of slinging B/O. I was diving in a cave today that has a pretty good flow going through it and I would have to say since adding the travel frame and the sidemount kit I expended a lot less energy swimming into the flow. Can't wait to go back tomorrow since I know now I can make it further now with my increase swim speed.
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5th February 2006, 04:31	#48 (permalink)
Curt Bowen RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA, Florida Posts: 249	Re: Golem Gear website Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) Is it just me having problems with the Golem Gear website? I tried about a month ago to order an Armadillo but cannot get past the shipping quote in my basket. I put in France, my post code and then it only accepts half my town and then nothing. I tried again today and the same thing happened. So let me ask Jakub a question......... "Do you want my money or not?" If you do then please sort out the website. Thanks, Dave Cooper. Here is a new idea. When I have trouble ordering anything, I e-mail or call the company for assistance. Maybe its a new concept, but it will probably get a quicker responce compared to waiting a month and trying again.
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5th February 2006, 09:15	#49 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,197	Grandmothers and Eggs Quote: (Originally Posted by Curt Bowen) Here is a new idea. When I have trouble ordering anything, I e-mail or call the company for assistance. Maybe its a new concept, but it will probably get a quicker responce compared to waiting a month and trying again. Yeah thanks Curt maybe I should remember to breath out and in every couple of seconds as well....... I happen to be very very busy at the moment and the Armadillo isn't quite the most important thing on my agenda...... Also, I have tried it again today and it does not work. When I get back from Morocco next Friday I will PM you Jakub. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions Last edited by Decodiver : 5th February 2006 at 10:58.
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6th February 2006, 23:09	#50 (permalink)
Mike Prism 'prentice Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 329	Re: Sidemount - up there with scooters and HID lights Quote: (Originally Posted by Duncan Price) All you need to add (bilateral) sidemounted bailouts to a backplate/wing is a hip D-ring each side and a bit of elastic from your backplate around to a clip to your shoulder D-rings as below attached. I swapped to using a Dring plate (actually one of Tobin's undercounterlung d-rings) that has the d-ring bit below the waist harness rather than in-line with it. Drops the mounting point a bit lower on your butt (donkey?) and seemed to work a bit better. Also, running one bit of bungy with loops on each end, rather than two bits of bungy (one each side) means you can stretch each side out in turn to make it easier to slip the loop over the reg / valve on the stage. I find it easier to attach the clips to the butt D-rings first, then stand up and do the bungy bit with the tanks upright and supported at my waist. If I try and do it sitting down it's a lot harder to get the bungy over the reg/valve. The first one is OK to do but the second is a bit tight. In the water is a lot easier to remove the tanks - might help you fit back onto the boat easier too. Mike __________________ Open ....... Closed Mind ........ Loop
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