Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg?

DarthVern · 27th March 2006, 03:02

I will def buy a Classic Kiss at a good price, who is selling? Line forms to the left it appears . . .

RAL · 1st April 2006, 16:32

The Meg is an awsome tool no doubt but I went with the CK. The Ck has three advantages over the meg IMHO, less drag, less clutter& a lower profile. I don't dive deeper than the Kiss will go so that advantage is not needed.
After putting a good reg in the DSV/OC & replacing the diaphram in the adv ( your mask should not flood due to the effort to add dil) my only want now is a HUD. That Heliox dive drive looks to be a well made unit! None of the units are perfect for every situation but the kiss is pretty easy to tweek to fit your needs.
To me its not really that one is good & the other is not, its a question of using the right tool for the task at hand. If you are stalking critters at 380 trying to get that perfect photo then the Meg has great advantage. If you are diving in shallower water in tight places then the Kiss really shines.
I'll be sitting in the corner waiting for my beating now.

Dan · 1st April 2006, 19:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL)

...After putting a good reg in the DSV/OC & replacing the diaphram in the adv ...

Hello!
What reg do you use now and what material did you replace the original diaphram with?

//Dan

Sutty · 1st April 2006, 22:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL)

After putting a good reg in the DSV/OC & replacing the diaphram in the adv ( your mask should not flood due to the effort to add dil) my only want now is a HUD.

Hi Ral,
I'm curious what reg you used to replace the Paragon on your Kiss. My CK ADV is fairly sensitive - sounds like yor ADV O-ring might need glueing back in. If you want a HUD see my thread on Uri's unit and ask silentscuba how he's getting on with his - well pleased with mine.

Neil

silentscuba · 1st April 2006, 23:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by Sutty)

Hi Ral,
I'm curious what reg you used to replace the Paragon on your Kiss. My CK ADV is fairly sensitive - sounds like yor ADV O-ring might need glueing back in. If you want a HUD see my thread on Uri's unit and ask silentscuba how he's getting on with his - well pleased with mine.

Neil

I love my HUD that I purchased from URI. I just got back from a trip to Truk and it worked great. The HUD allows you to keep a more level PO2 because you are constantly aware of what is going on without waiting to look at your PO2 displays. I highly recommend the unit for any KISS diver.

DepthCharge · 2nd April 2006, 02:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL)

That Heliox dive drive looks to be a well made unit! None of the units are perfect for every situation but the kiss is pretty easy to tweek to fit your needs.

Have they started to deliver the dive drive yet? Have not heard any feedback on the units.

RAL · 3rd April 2006, 03:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dan)

Hello!
What reg do you use now and what material did you replace the original diaphram with?

//Dan

Dan I use a Scuba Pro G-500. The replacment diapham is Goodyear I think. They both work great.

Roger

RAL · 3rd April 2006, 03:33

My CK ADV is fairly sensitive - sounds like yor ADV O-ring might need glueing back in. If you want a HUD see my thread on Uri's unit and ask silentscuba how he's getting on with his - well pleased with mine.

Neil checked the O-ring it is fine. The diaphram on my ADV was very thick & very stiff. I was told that it was set up to be stiff so as to not activate to easily. The profiles I dive quite often involve many depth changes while dealing with a bit of a current so I needed it to be lighter. If anything I use less dil with the easy ADV.
How much is Uris unit & how much mods are needed to install. I don't want to do anything to the Kiss that requires drilling ect.

Roger

RAL · 3rd April 2006, 03:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by DepthCharge)

Have they started to deliver the dive drive yet? Have not heard any feedback on the units.

No units yet but they should be ready shortly. Looks like it will be a pretty slick setup once they are ready. No perminent mods to the unit, no change in size or weight of the kiss to speak of, better wrist unit, easy calibration, no extra external boxes to stash, small HUD.... the O2 parachute...Whats not to like?

Roger

Dan · 3rd April 2006, 05:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL)

Dan I use a Scuba Pro G-500. The replacment diapham is Goodyear I think. They both work great.

Roger

Roger,
Did you use a inner tube as diapham?

If so, something to think about?

//Dan

27th March 2006, 03:02	#71 (permalink)
DarthVern New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In a Quarry in PA Posts: 55	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? I will def buy a Classic Kiss at a good price, who is selling? Line forms to the left it appears . . .
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1st April 2006, 16:32	#72 (permalink)
RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 390	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? The Meg is an awsome tool no doubt but I went with the CK. The Ck has three advantages over the meg IMHO, less drag, less clutter& a lower profile. I don't dive deeper than the Kiss will go so that advantage is not needed. After putting a good reg in the DSV/OC & replacing the diaphram in the adv ( your mask should not flood due to the effort to add dil) my only want now is a HUD. That Heliox dive drive looks to be a well made unit! None of the units are perfect for every situation but the kiss is pretty easy to tweek to fit your needs. To me its not really that one is good & the other is not, its a question of using the right tool for the task at hand. If you are stalking critters at 380 trying to get that perfect photo then the Meg has great advantage. If you are diving in shallower water in tight places then the Kiss really shines. I'll be sitting in the corner waiting for my beating now.
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1st April 2006, 19:45	#73 (permalink)
Dan New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: SWEDEN Posts: 71	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL) ...After putting a good reg in the DSV/OC & replacing the diaphram in the adv ... Hello! What reg do you use now and what material did you replace the original diaphram with? //Dan
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1st April 2006, 22:27	#74 (permalink)
Sutty Classic Kiss diver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Glossop, Derbyshire, UK Posts: 802	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL) After putting a good reg in the DSV/OC & replacing the diaphram in the adv ( your mask should not flood due to the effort to add dil) my only want now is a HUD. Hi Ral, I'm curious what reg you used to replace the Paragon on your Kiss. My CK ADV is fairly sensitive - sounds like yor ADV O-ring might need glueing back in. If you want a HUD see my thread on Uri's unit and ask silentscuba how he's getting on with his - well pleased with mine. Neil __________________ Never forget that life is a finite resource.
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1st April 2006, 23:30	#75 (permalink)
silentscuba rEvo CCR Driver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA USA Posts: 588	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by Sutty) Hi Ral, I'm curious what reg you used to replace the Paragon on your Kiss. My CK ADV is fairly sensitive - sounds like yor ADV O-ring might need glueing back in. If you want a HUD see my thread on Uri's unit and ask silentscuba how he's getting on with his - well pleased with mine. Neil I love my HUD that I purchased from URI. I just got back from a trip to Truk and it worked great. The HUD allows you to keep a more level PO2 because you are constantly aware of what is going on without waiting to look at your PO2 displays. I highly recommend the unit for any KISS diver. __________________ Curt McNamee rEvo CCR Diver KISS CCR Diver www.silentscuba.com
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2nd April 2006, 02:50	#76 (permalink)
DepthCharge New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: upstate NY Posts: 232	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL) That Heliox dive drive looks to be a well made unit! None of the units are perfect for every situation but the kiss is pretty easy to tweek to fit your needs. Have they started to deliver the dive drive yet? Have not heard any feedback on the units. __________________ Later, John It's better to beg forgiveness than ask permission
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3rd April 2006, 03:15	#77 (permalink)
RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 390	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by Dan) Hello! What reg do you use now and what material did you replace the original diaphram with? //Dan Dan I use a Scuba Pro G-500. The replacment diapham is Goodyear I think. They both work great. Roger
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3rd April 2006, 03:33	#78 (permalink)
RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 390	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? My CK ADV is fairly sensitive - sounds like yor ADV O-ring might need glueing back in. If you want a HUD see my thread on Uri's unit and ask silentscuba how he's getting on with his - well pleased with mine. Neil checked the O-ring it is fine. The diaphram on my ADV was very thick & very stiff. I was told that it was set up to be stiff so as to not activate to easily. The profiles I dive quite often involve many depth changes while dealing with a bit of a current so I needed it to be lighter. If anything I use less dil with the easy ADV. How much is Uris unit & how much mods are needed to install. I don't want to do anything to the Kiss that requires drilling ect. Roger
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3rd April 2006, 03:45	#79 (permalink)
RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 390	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by DepthCharge) Have they started to deliver the dive drive yet? Have not heard any feedback on the units. No units yet but they should be ready shortly. Looks like it will be a pretty slick setup once they are ready. No perminent mods to the unit, no change in size or weight of the kiss to speak of, better wrist unit, easy calibration, no extra external boxes to stash, small HUD.... the O2 parachute...Whats not to like? Roger
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3rd April 2006, 05:48	#80 (permalink)
Dan New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: SWEDEN Posts: 71	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL) Dan I use a Scuba Pro G-500. The replacment diapham is Goodyear I think. They both work great. Roger Roger, Did you use a inner tube as diapham? If so, something to think about? //Dan
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