Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg?

cys · 31st January 2006, 07:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

I didn't know that was possible since supposedly the spring is solid at 12.5 bar. Have you double checked the IP with another gauge ?

I e-mailed a long time KISS user who had posted on the general subject to find out about the IP limit before I did it. I have only checked it with one gauge, but, then again, I was told it was possible to go there. Have you tried to go to 13.5? Anyway, there was another method to go to even higher IPs (spring replacement) posted on the "non-Jetsam-KISS" yahoo group, which seems to be gone lately (or at least doesn't appear as one of my yahoo groups anymore).

decoweenie · 31st January 2006, 07:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by cys)

Have you tried to go to 13.5?

No, I haven't tried yet.

Quote:

Anyway, there was another method to go to even higher IPs (spring replacement)

Yes, the information came from a diver in Scandinavia. I should have that somewhere in my archive. It is capable to 20 bar IIRC.

***EBT*** · 31st January 2006, 07:48

Its like anything I guess, you have to toss up the properties etc and assess if they fit your diving. If you like electronic control etc then a meg may fit.

Personally I prefer the simplicity of the KISS and dont dive below 100m (my unit was bought for caving, as a gas logistics tool).

The meg looks a good enough CCR, although I'd love to know the latest on its CE status..... this always seems to take longer to get, no matter who the manufacturer is.

lof · 31st January 2006, 13:52

I talked to Leon couple days ago, and he said, that all Meg scrubbers (Standard, Radial, Prism, and ExtendAir) "smoked" the CE testing. Reportedly, the testers were quite impressed with how low the WOB on the units was.

Also, you can always fly the unit manually (like a KISS) and have the electronics there as a parachute. That's how I do it.

Deepwreck · 31st January 2006, 19:36

Ok Ok!! Im in. Just find me a buyer and Ill get that Meg.

Make me an offer I can't refuse!

onetime · 31st January 2006, 20:04

No, don't do it! I gotta be different so I figured I'd join in on the "no" side. Plus I have a Classic and decided I don't really need a Meg. It looks like a nice Rebreather but the KISS meets my needs and until there's some real reason for me to go to a Meg (or Optima, or ???) I'll stick with keeping it simple.

MaxMekker · 31st January 2006, 21:09

Make me an offer I can't refuse and mine is gone too

I realy want a Meg

RH

bubnotbub · 4th February 2006, 10:07

I Confirm.....

MEG MEG MEG MEG
No game

Ken · 4th February 2006, 11:34

Both are terrific units. The compactness, lightweight and backmounted lungs of the CK are truly appreciated in those situations where you want to dive clean(er). When the dive includes more task loading I appreciate the alarms and redundancy of the Meg (HUD). Both are different philosophically animals doing the same job. In the end an Rebreather aficionado has more than one tool in their arsenal. Unit redundancy is an important option in remote and expensive expeditions. Nothing like blowing an expensive trip due to malfunctioning electronics.

Pakman · 8th March 2006, 16:17

OK... since everyone is dying to get rid of their perfectly good Classic KISS'es... someone tell me why I shouldn't buy a used KISS as my first CCR...

To be honest, the meg was 1st on my list but due to lack of Meg instructors in HK* and the lack of vacation time to commit to training overseas, I figure I'd be better off starting off with a manual CK to dip my feet into CCR's...

*I think Leon told me there was one Meg instructor in Singapore... know of any others?

31st January 2006, 07:15	#21 (permalink)
cys ck #157 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: S. California Posts: 204	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) I didn't know that was possible since supposedly the spring is solid at 12.5 bar. Have you double checked the IP with another gauge ? I e-mailed a long time KISS user who had posted on the general subject to find out about the IP limit before I did it. I have only checked it with one gauge, but, then again, I was told it was possible to go there. Have you tried to go to 13.5? Anyway, there was another method to go to even higher IPs (spring replacement) posted on the "non-Jetsam-KISS" yahoo group, which seems to be gone lately (or at least doesn't appear as one of my yahoo groups anymore).
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31st January 2006, 07:28	#22 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by cys) Have you tried to go to 13.5? No, I haven't tried yet. Quote: Anyway, there was another method to go to even higher IPs (spring replacement) Yes, the information came from a diver in Scandinavia. I should have that somewhere in my archive. It is capable to 20 bar IIRC. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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31st January 2006, 07:48	#23 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,969	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Its like anything I guess, you have to toss up the properties etc and assess if they fit your diving. If you like electronic control etc then a meg may fit. Personally I prefer the simplicity of the KISS and dont dive below 100m (my unit was bought for caving, as a gas logistics tool). The meg looks a good enough CCR, although I'd love to know the latest on its CE status..... this always seems to take longer to get, no matter who the manufacturer is. __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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31st January 2006, 13:52	#24 (permalink)
lof RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 479	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? I talked to Leon couple days ago, and he said, that all Meg scrubbers (Standard, Radial, Prism, and ExtendAir) "smoked" the CE testing. Reportedly, the testers were quite impressed with how low the WOB on the units was. Also, you can always fly the unit manually (like a KISS) and have the electronics there as a parachute. That's how I do it. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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31st January 2006, 19:36	#25 (permalink)
Deepwreck Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 114	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Ok Ok!! Im in. Just find me a buyer and Ill get that Meg. Make me an offer I can't refuse!
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31st January 2006, 20:04	#26 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 673	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? No, don't do it! I gotta be different so I figured I'd join in on the "no" side. Plus I have a Classic and decided I don't really need a Meg. It looks like a nice Rebreather but the KISS meets my needs and until there's some real reason for me to go to a Meg (or Optima, or ???) I'll stick with keeping it simple.
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31st January 2006, 21:09	#27 (permalink)
MaxMekker New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norway, Skien Posts: 32	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Make me an offer I can't refuse and mine is gone too I realy want a Meg RH __________________ Tusenkunstner
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4th February 2006, 10:07	#28 (permalink)
bubnotbub Silent diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Italy Posts: 393	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? I Confirm..... MEG MEG MEG MEG No game
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4th February 2006, 11:34	#29 (permalink)
Ken Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 326	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Both are terrific units. The compactness, lightweight and backmounted lungs of the CK are truly appreciated in those situations where you want to dive clean(er). When the dive includes more task loading I appreciate the alarms and redundancy of the Meg (HUD). Both are different philosophically animals doing the same job. In the end an Rebreather aficionado has more than one tool in their arsenal. Unit redundancy is an important option in remote and expensive expeditions. Nothing like blowing an expensive trip due to malfunctioning electronics.
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8th March 2006, 16:17	#30 (permalink)
Pakman New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hong Kong via Seattle Posts: 9	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? OK... since everyone is dying to get rid of their perfectly good Classic KISS'es... someone tell me why I shouldn't buy a used KISS as my first CCR... To be honest, the meg was 1st on my list but due to lack of Meg instructors in HK* and the lack of vacation time to commit to training overseas, I figure I'd be better off starting off with a manual CK to dip my feet into CCR's... *I think Leon told me there was one Meg instructor in Singapore... know of any others?
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