Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg?

decoweenie · 30th January 2006, 20:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by caverkevin)

I'll purchase all these unwanted KISS's for the scarp value of the metal

You must meant scrap value of plastic and Delrin since there hardly is any metal. Plus it would be cheaper too...

Deepwreck · 30th January 2006, 21:00

I love my Kiss, but that love will only get me to around 300'. I feel the need to go deeper.

That plastic and Delrin will cost you!

decoweenie · 30th January 2006, 21:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by Deepwreck)

I love my Kiss, but that love will only get me to around 300'. I feel the need to go deeper.

Actually 360ft+ on the standard orifice, but I will digress...

How deep have you been on it ?

jont · 30th January 2006, 21:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo)

I'm thinking about letting my CK go and go for the Meg instead...
Is that a crazy idea or am I really changing for the better...
like to have your oppinion...
Cheers Rodge

ITS NOT A CRAZY IDEA, IT HAPPENS TO BE A VERY SANE IDEA, UPGRADE AND DON'T LOOK BACK.

gathan · 30th January 2006, 21:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Actually 360ft+ on the standard orifice, but I will digress...

How deep have you been on it ?

I don't think mine will go that deep. May be some of the orifices are larger than others, but I have my IP set to 140psig which in turn gives me a flow of about .8lpm.

Andre

louisrankin · 30th January 2006, 21:58

I believe it all depends on the sort of diving you do; I have never been deeper than 75 meters on my classic Kiss in the UK and 85 meters in the Red Sea. In my opinion the kiss (sports & classic) is ideal down to 75 meters and most of my diving is in the 65 meters range. I know it can go deeper by adjusting the 02 flow rate via the inter stage pressure setting. I have had my classic for 2 ½ years and my sports for 5 months. My only grip with my classic is the handsets the older model with the A on the back but this has now been addressed with the new version. I cannot fully comment on them yet as I have only done a few dives with them but they are a big improvement. I would like to be able to convert my classic to a eCCR I love the look of the Heliox Drive Dive http://www.heliox.com/divedrive.html. and I would buy one tomorrow if you could change the setpoint (great price as well but then again so are the jetsam rebreathers)

So would I buy a Meg YES my ideal setup would be a Meg for deep dives (someday I would like to go deeper than 100 meters but don’t tell my wife ) and a sports kiss for the shallow ones

Louis

MaxMekker · 30th January 2006, 22:08

Why do I have the same Idea??
I also look on Meg. So if any body give a god price on my CK I cross over to Meg

CK #185

RH

decoweenie · 30th January 2006, 22:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by gathan)

I don't think mine will go that deep. May be some of the orifices are larger than others, but I have my IP set to 140psig which in turn gives me a flow of about .8lpm.

Andre

Except for the older units (can't remember the exact s/n when it changed), all of the later units (CK and SK) should have the smaller orifice (0.0035") so you should be able to adjust the Apeks first stage to slightly above 12 bar (the spring is solid at ~12.5 bar).

Based on the tolerances, you should be able to get to ~110-115m with less than 1 LPM.

Mine was done exactly as mentioned, so I know it works.

cys · 31st January 2006, 02:04

Got my ds4 cranked to 13.6 atm to give 1.05 lpm on a plastic KISS valve.

decoweenie · 31st January 2006, 04:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by cys)

...ds4 cranked to 13.6 atm...

I didn't know that was possible since supposedly the spring is solid at 12.5 bar. Have you double checked the IP with another gauge ?

30th January 2006, 20:15	#11 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by caverkevin) I'll purchase all these unwanted KISS's for the scarp value of the metal You must meant scrap value of plastic and Delrin since there hardly is any metal. Plus it would be cheaper too... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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30th January 2006, 21:00	#12 (permalink)
Deepwreck Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 112	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? I love my Kiss, but that love will only get me to around 300'. I feel the need to go deeper. That plastic and Delrin will cost you!
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30th January 2006, 21:03	#13 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by Deepwreck) I love my Kiss, but that love will only get me to around 300'. I feel the need to go deeper. Actually 360ft+ on the standard orifice, but I will digress... How deep have you been on it ? __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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30th January 2006, 21:41	#14 (permalink)
jont Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York, NY USA Posts: 212	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo) I'm thinking about letting my CK go and go for the Meg instead... Is that a crazy idea or am I really changing for the better... like to have your oppinion... Cheers Rodge ITS NOT A CRAZY IDEA, IT HAPPENS TO BE A VERY SANE IDEA, UPGRADE AND DON'T LOOK BACK.
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30th January 2006, 21:56	#15 (permalink)
gathan MixedGas Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tottenham, Ontario, Canada Posts: 202	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Actually 360ft+ on the standard orifice, but I will digress... How deep have you been on it ? I don't think mine will go that deep. May be some of the orifices are larger than others, but I have my IP set to 140psig which in turn gives me a flow of about .8lpm. Andre
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30th January 2006, 21:58	#16 (permalink)
louisrankin Póg mo thóin Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cambridge Posts: 301	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? I believe it all depends on the sort of diving you do; I have never been deeper than 75 meters on my classic Kiss in the UK and 85 meters in the Red Sea. In my opinion the kiss (sports & classic) is ideal down to 75 meters and most of my diving is in the 65 meters range. I know it can go deeper by adjusting the 02 flow rate via the inter stage pressure setting. I have had my classic for 2 ½ years and my sports for 5 months. My only grip with my classic is the handsets the older model with the A on the back but this has now been addressed with the new version. I cannot fully comment on them yet as I have only done a few dives with them but they are a big improvement. I would like to be able to convert my classic to a eCCR I love the look of the Heliox Drive Dive http://www.heliox.com/divedrive.html. and I would buy one tomorrow if you could change the setpoint (great price as well but then again so are the jetsam rebreathers) So would I buy a Meg YES my ideal setup would be a Meg for deep dives (someday I would like to go deeper than 100 meters but don’t tell my wife ) and a sports kiss for the shallow ones Louis Last edited by louisrankin : 30th January 2006 at 22:28.
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MaxMekker New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norway, Skien Posts: 32	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Why do I have the same Idea?? I also look on Meg. So if any body give a god price on my CK I cross over to Meg CK #185 RH __________________ Tusenkunstner
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30th January 2006, 22:08	#18 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by gathan) I don't think mine will go that deep. May be some of the orifices are larger than others, but I have my IP set to 140psig which in turn gives me a flow of about .8lpm. Andre Except for the older units (can't remember the exact s/n when it changed), all of the later units (CK and SK) should have the smaller orifice (0.0035") so you should be able to adjust the Apeks first stage to slightly above 12 bar (the spring is solid at ~12.5 bar). Based on the tolerances, you should be able to get to ~110-115m with less than 1 LPM. Mine was done exactly as mentioned, so I know it works. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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31st January 2006, 02:04	#19 (permalink)
cys ck #157 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: S. California Posts: 201	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Got my ds4 cranked to 13.6 atm to give 1.05 lpm on a plastic KISS valve.
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31st January 2006, 04:11	#20 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Should I sell my KISS and buy a Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by cys) ...ds4 cranked to 13.6 atm... I didn't know that was possible since supposedly the spring is solid at 12.5 bar. Have you double checked the IP with another gauge ? __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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