Diving with OC buddy

JohnDuncan · 20th January 2006, 21:01

I was thinking about this the other day and would be interested in other peoples views. In the (hopefully) rare event of something going wrong and needing assistance getting to the surface, what do you tell your buddy to do in the event of you being the victim? and what if your buddy needed getting to the surface?
scenarios:
1. If you are still on the loop, but need assistance
2. If you have bailed out, the loop is still complete but not usable
3. you are still on the loop and all OK, but your buddy is on his bailout or your bailout.
for the sake of this discussion, this does not involve any safety/deco stops.

Nick uk. · 20th January 2006, 21:14

I have a close freind of mine and dive buddy who dives OC, i took him along one day to an experience day to try the YBOD for himself, and allthough he still dives OC and isn't interested in going CCR, i think it still helped him a lot in understanding more about the unit i dive and may be of use to both of us if any should arise in the future. Hopefully every now and again i can get him back on the unit as a refresher for him! We have allways had a fairly comprehensive training routine practicing various scenarios, now we just have to add some new ones with the Rebreather.

jont · 20th January 2006, 21:47

My advice would be don't dive with an OC buddy

**rdriver** · 20th January 2006, 21:58

On a rare occasion when I dive my rebreather with OC Buddies I tend to take the mind set that I am diving alone, and if I can't save myself I'm done for! they aren't going to be of much help other than to get my body to the surface....... That's why I tend to not mix and match buddies..... sometimes the OC buddies just don't understand (or want to) what goes on when you are on rebreather.
just my O2 cents
Dive Safe
Rob

Mark Chase · 20th January 2006, 22:28

I dive with OC buddies ocasionaly. They are generaly very good divers. I tell them if I pass out to press this button and pull this toggle in four 5 second bursts untill I come round and then make sure i go OC. If that fails they can try and stick an OC reg in my mouth or just send me up.

Frankley I dont expect a lot more from a CCR buddy sure they can check my PP02 but the choices are prety much the same.

ATB

Mark Chase

Drmike · 21st January 2006, 00:43

I just tell them to turn my BOV.

ROB DAVIE · 21st January 2006, 01:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

I just tell them to turn my BOV.

Skipbreather · 21st January 2006, 02:47

Us older farts take a, um, larger view of life & available dive buddies. While I don’t risk my life w/ newbs, guys who make bubbles are definitely NOT the enemy. They are but Rebreather divers in waiting!

I’ll expand just a bit on the bail scenario. Two points need clarification. First, I am TOTALLY responsible for my own self rescue. Second, I make OC buddies very aware that if they do not close my BOV, my buoyancy gets very negative, very fast. Since closing my BOV may or may not fix whatever made me goofy, it is regardless time to surface.

Best,
Ken

ROB DAVIE · 21st January 2006, 03:33

Quote: (Originally Posted by Skipbreather)

Us older farts take a, um, larger view of life & available dive buddies. While I don’t risk my life w/ newbs, guys who make bubbles are definitely NOT the enemy. They are but Rebreather divers in waiting!

Best,
Ken

***caveseeker7*** · 21st January 2006, 04:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

I just tell them to turn my BOV.

20th January 2006, 21:01	#1 (permalink)
JohnDuncan Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Posts: 134	Diving with OC buddy I was thinking about this the other day and would be interested in other peoples views. In the (hopefully) rare event of something going wrong and needing assistance getting to the surface, what do you tell your buddy to do in the event of you being the victim? and what if your buddy needed getting to the surface? scenarios: 1. If you are still on the loop, but need assistance 2. If you have bailed out, the loop is still complete but not usable 3. you are still on the loop and all OK, but your buddy is on his bailout or your bailout. for the sake of this discussion, this does not involve any safety/deco stops.
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20th January 2006, 21:14	#2 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 579	Re: Diving with OC buddy I have a close freind of mine and dive buddy who dives OC, i took him along one day to an experience day to try the YBOD for himself, and allthough he still dives OC and isn't interested in going CCR, i think it still helped him a lot in understanding more about the unit i dive and may be of use to both of us if any should arise in the future. Hopefully every now and again i can get him back on the unit as a refresher for him! We have allways had a fairly comprehensive training routine practicing various scenarios, now we just have to add some new ones with the Rebreather. __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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20th January 2006, 21:47	#3 (permalink)
jont Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York, NY USA Posts: 191	Re: Diving with OC buddy My advice would be don't dive with an OC buddy
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20th January 2006, 21:58	#4 (permalink)
rdriver Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: May 2005 Location: Monroe, WI 53566 U.S. Posts: 148	Re: Diving with OC buddy On a rare occasion when I dive my rebreather with OC Buddies I tend to take the mind set that I am diving alone, and if I can't save myself I'm done for! they aren't going to be of much help other than to get my body to the surface....... That's why I tend to not mix and match buddies..... sometimes the OC buddies just don't understand (or want to) what goes on when you are on rebreather. just my O2 cents Dive Safe Rob
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20th January 2006, 22:28	#5 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,470	Re: Diving with OC buddy I dive with OC buddies ocasionaly. They are generaly very good divers. I tell them if I pass out to press this button and pull this toggle in four 5 second bursts untill I come round and then make sure i go OC. If that fails they can try and stick an OC reg in my mouth or just send me up. Frankley I dont expect a lot more from a CCR buddy sure they can check my PP02 but the choices are prety much the same. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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21st January 2006, 00:43	#6 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,128	Re: Diving with OC buddy I just tell them to turn my BOV. __________________ Get a girlfriend you sad twat - a Rebreather is an unfaithful mistress - dont blind yourself to her faults just because she goes down on you
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21st January 2006, 01:21	#7 (permalink)
ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Re: Diving with OC buddy Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) I just tell them to turn my BOV. __________________ [SIZE=2]"CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving [U]WHEN PIGS FLY[/U]!!"--GI3[/SIZE]
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21st January 2006, 02:47	#8 (permalink)
Skipbreather WAY past the barber pole Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, Illinois, USA Posts: 529	Re: Diving with OC buddy Us older farts take a, um, larger view of life & available dive buddies. While I don’t risk my life w/ newbs, guys who make bubbles are definitely NOT the enemy. They are but Rebreather divers in waiting! I’ll expand just a bit on the bail scenario. Two points need clarification. First, I am TOTALLY responsible for my own self rescue. Second, I make OC buddies very aware that if they do not close my BOV, my buoyancy gets very negative, very fast. Since closing my BOV may or may not fix whatever made me goofy, it is regardless time to surface. Best, Ken
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21st January 2006, 03:33	#9 (permalink)
ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Re: Diving with OC buddy Quote: (Originally Posted by Skipbreather) Us older farts take a, um, larger view of life & available dive buddies. While I don’t risk my life w/ newbs, guys who make bubbles are definitely NOT the enemy. They are but Rebreather divers in waiting! Best, Ken __________________ [SIZE=2]"CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving [U]WHEN PIGS FLY[/U]!!"--GI3[/SIZE]
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21st January 2006, 04:29	#10 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,325	Re: Diving with OC buddy Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) I just tell them to turn my BOV. __________________ Cheers Stefan "It is still a good day if you are on the green side of the grass! Su amigo Roberto!" Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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