Meg/ Optima Comp...

decoweenie · 17th January 2006, 17:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski)

I get $1800 for someone with OC trimix experience or $2500 for someone without...

Damn, I need to raise my prices...

decoweenie · 17th January 2006, 17:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by trob09)

I heard an unsubstantiated rumor that after the initial run of 500 units they will stop making the Optima.

It will take years before they make that many, and even more selling them all. So what is the problem ?

Quote:

(just another meg owner stirring the mud)

No, all you did was instantly raised the "value" of the Optima into an "obsolete classic collectable" unit...

**trob09** · 17th January 2006, 17:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

It will take years before they make that many, and even more selling them all. So what is the problem ?

The second half of the rumor was that they would only make enough to cover orders already placed.

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

No, all you did was instantly raised the "value" of the Optima into an "obsolete classic collectable" unit...

***Decodiver*** · 17th January 2006, 17:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Damn, I need to raise my prices...

You and me both!

***caveseeker7*** · 17th January 2006, 18:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by Genesis)

With the O2ptima, this is just flat-out prohibited when you're getting started with it.

And you expected what when the manufacturer and training agency share owners?

Wait until the Trimix O2ptima CCR class is sorted and a generic Trimix CCR certification won't do.

***caveseeker7*** · 17th January 2006, 18:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by trob09)

I heard an unsubstantiated rumor that after the initial run of 500 units they will stop making the Optima.

Haven't heard that one before, but if they're already making plans to scrap the O2ptima I rather doubt they'll invest into the development of a granular replacement scrubber.

seafox · 17th January 2006, 19:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by Explorer)

Seafox,

Do you have any pics of your Optima in a nice carry on case?

I use the Storm M2975 for transporting and shipping.
However, when shipping I would "carry-on" the canister which includes the solenoid and the 02 cells, the DIVA and the hansdsets.
Everything else goes into the Storm case.
Have you got an Optima?

Explorer · 17th January 2006, 19:15

No. Just curious on the size of case you use for your unit. I will be trying an Optima next month in Florida.

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 17th January 2006, 19:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by barney)

Can anyone explain why the OPTIMA ADV won't allow manual addition of gas? It would appear the cover of the ADV won't depress far enough to engage the second-stage style ADV.

I also think that this was kind of sucky thinking on their part.

You can depress it to make it fire. However, it is a real bitch to push on it that hard.

I am going to try using it in the water just to see. I have been able to make it fire on land. We'll see if I can do it in water.

As far a paying for the PIN and training issue go, I already paid for the Trimix PIN. I just considered it part of the cost of the unit. That made it a little less painful.

In a general sense, to me, diving is freedom. If an untrained person wants the freedom to kill him or herself, I am okay with that just as long as the person going into it understands before acting. So, I would prefer no PINs whatsoever.

Although I am already Trimix certified, I plan on taking the training anyway before diving it again with my Optima. Whether I pay for training and a PIN or not has nothing to do with it. But, again, I like the idea of being free to make my own decision about it. I respect the decision of others not to go this way. I just ask that you let me know about this before we dive together so that I can make my decision about diving with you. Fair enough?

***jradomski*** · 17th January 2006, 19:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Damn, I need to raise my prices...

I don't know how long your class is, but the shortest class I run takes about 7 days of diving (plus academics).. Thats not much when you look at it on a per day basis..

17th January 2006, 17:03	#21 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Meg/ Optima Comp... Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) I get $1800 for someone with OC trimix experience or $2500 for someone without... Damn, I need to raise my prices... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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17th January 2006, 17:09	#22 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Meg/ Optima Comp... Quote: (Originally Posted by trob09) I heard an unsubstantiated rumor that after the initial run of 500 units they will stop making the Optima. It will take years before they make that many, and even more selling them all. So what is the problem ? Quote: (just another meg owner stirring the mud) No, all you did was instantly raised the "value" of the Optima into an "obsolete classic collectable" unit... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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17th January 2006, 17:36	#23 (permalink)
trob09 . Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 704	Re: Meg/ Optima Comp... Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) It will take years before they make that many, and even more selling them all. So what is the problem ? The second half of the rumor was that they would only make enough to cover orders already placed. Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) No, all you did was instantly raised the "value" of the Optima into an "obsolete classic collectable" unit...
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17th January 2006, 17:40	#24 (permalink)
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17th January 2006, 18:40	#25 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,498	Re: Meg/ Optima Comp... Quote: (Originally Posted by Genesis) With the O2ptima, this is just flat-out prohibited when you're getting started with it. And you expected what when the manufacturer and training agency share owners? Wait until the Trimix O2ptima CCR class is sorted and a generic Trimix CCR certification won't do. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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17th January 2006, 18:46	#26 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,498	Quote: (Originally Posted by trob09) I heard an unsubstantiated rumor that after the initial run of 500 units they will stop making the Optima. Haven't heard that one before, but if they're already making plans to scrap the O2ptima I rather doubt they'll invest into the development of a granular replacement scrubber. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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17th January 2006, 19:08	#27 (permalink)
seafox 02ptima Instructor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TORONTO, CANADA -Have "02ptima" will travel! Posts: 172	Re: Meg/ Optima Comp... Quote: (Originally Posted by Explorer) Seafox, Do you have any pics of your Optima in a nice carry on case? I use the Storm M2975 for transporting and shipping. However, when shipping I would "carry-on" the canister which includes the solenoid and the 02 cells, the DIVA and the hansdsets. Everything else goes into the Storm case. Have you got an Optima? __________________ Protect the SHARKS! Excellence is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction, skillful execution and the vision to see obstacles as opportunities. Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards!
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17th January 2006, 19:15	#28 (permalink)
Explorer I will teach you a..... Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	Re: Meg/ Optima Comp... No. Just curious on the size of case you use for your unit. I will be trying an Optima next month in Florida. __________________ 20 dwarves, 20 dwarves, 20 dwarves took turns doing handstands on the carpet
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17th January 2006, 19:42	#29 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,138	Re: Meg/ Optima Comp... Quote: (Originally Posted by barney) Can anyone explain why the OPTIMA ADV won't allow manual addition of gas? It would appear the cover of the ADV won't depress far enough to engage the second-stage style ADV. I also think that this was kind of sucky thinking on their part. You can depress it to make it fire. However, it is a real bitch to push on it that hard. I am going to try using it in the water just to see. I have been able to make it fire on land. We'll see if I can do it in water. As far a paying for the PIN and training issue go, I already paid for the Trimix PIN. I just considered it part of the cost of the unit. That made it a little less painful. In a general sense, to me, diving is freedom. If an untrained person wants the freedom to kill him or herself, I am okay with that just as long as the person going into it understands before acting. So, I would prefer no PINs whatsoever. Although I am already Trimix certified, I plan on taking the training anyway before diving it again with my Optima. Whether I pay for training and a PIN or not has nothing to do with it. But, again, I like the idea of being free to make my own decision about it. I respect the decision of others not to go this way. I just ask that you let me know about this before we dive together so that I can make my decision about diving with you. Fair enough? __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com Last edited by ScubaDadMiami : 17th January 2006 at 19:48.
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17th January 2006, 19:54	#30 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 2,998	Re: Meg/ Optima Comp... Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Damn, I need to raise my prices... I don't know how long your class is, but the shortest class I run takes about 7 days of diving (plus academics).. Thats not much when you look at it on a per day basis.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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