simple HUD

Genesis · 1st January 2006, 22:10

Intesting perspectives here.... will definitely looking into incorporating some of them into the K1 controller's HUD

Nick uk. · 1st January 2006, 22:16

Eudi is a european dive fair, like dema in the usa.
I've narrowed my choices of buying either a YBOD or a Classic Kiss, would your HUD marry up well with either of these units? would one or the other work particulary better, (cable gland or fischer M/F) what are the differences?

Is your web site going to be available to read in English?

Thanks.

Sutty · 1st January 2006, 22:59

I'm still happy with Uri's unit - we've done a few mods to make it even more MCCR friendly (which I'll post after anothe couple of dives - tommorrow hopefully).
It gives me a simple green=OK type signal with easily understood flicker-if-high, flash-if-low, add red if far out of range sequence of signals. It is very easy to understand under water and gives you outputs of all 3 cells.

Neil

decoweenie · 2nd January 2006, 05:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers)

the hud is for sale

Looks nice Paul.

What is the depth rating for the connectors shown in your pictures ?

When you have the brochure written in English, could you let us know since I am interested in having an extra mean of monitoring the loop PO2 independent of the Vision electronic via a fourth sensor located at the Y-adapter at the top of the scrubber.

decoweenie · 2nd January 2006, 05:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by Sutty)

...we've done a few mods...

Neil,

When you are making such mods, do you have to send it back to Uri for re-program, or something you could do yourself ?

Also, is it possible for the Uri HUD to function under Smithers Code mode if specifically requested ?

paulraymaekers · 2nd January 2006, 06:10

hello deco,

the depth range does not depend on the cable glands shown on the pictures: the gland serves only to enter the breather, the do not seal more then the pressure diff between in and outside of the breather

sealing is done with potting the cables both sides, the hud-cable, and the cell-cable: even the side of the molex connectors the cables are interrupted and potted

you can use it on a vision, the gauge can be set up for one ore two cells

regards
paul

paulraymaekers · 2nd January 2006, 06:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by Genesis)

Intesting perspectives here.... will definitely looking into incorporating some of them into the K1 controller's HUD

?? what is the output voltage of the K1??

the hud refuses to callibrate if the voltage (for 100% oxi) <35mV or > 60mV

regards
paul

decoweenie · 2nd January 2006, 06:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers)

the depth range does not depend on the cable glands shown on the pictures: the gland serves only to enter the breather, the do not seal more then the pressure diff between in and outside of the breather

sealing is done with potting the cables both sides, the hud-cable, and the cell-cable: even the side of the molex connectors the cables are interrupted and potted

I agree on the HUD side since I don't think there is any air cavity with everything potted.

However, if you have any compartment sealed at 1 atm (which the gauge shown in the picture above the SPG looks like at 1 atm) than the cable gland will see a true differential pressure at depth.

paulraymaekers · 2nd January 2006, 06:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

I agree on the HUD side since I don't think there is any air cavity with everything potted.

However, if you have any compartment sealed at 1 atm (which the gauge shown in the picture above the SPG looks like at 1 atm) than the cable gland will see a true differential pressure at depth.

no, the cable gland is just to enter the 1atm box nicely: behind the gland the cable is interrupted and potted in a compartment from the box designed for that purpose

we used the rEvodream up to 122 (estimate +100 dives at + 80m)

regards
paul

Sutty · 2nd January 2006, 07:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Neil,

When you are making such mods, do you have to send it back to Uri for re-program, or something you could do yourself ?

Also, is it possible for the Uri HUD to function under Smithers Code mode if specifically requested ?

It has to go back to Uri, there is a programming port which is intended to be permanently sealed, we have left it temporarily sealed to allow adjustments. Once we have it sorted it will be sealed up. (Soon)

Yes, no reason you couldn't have the smithers code if you wanted. I understand you could also have 2 different systems programmed and switch between them, which is tempting but introduces the possibility of accidentally toggling between the systems.

Neil

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Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: simple HUD Eudi is a european dive fair, like dema in the usa. I've narrowed my choices of buying either a YBOD or a Classic Kiss, would your HUD marry up well with either of these units? would one or the other work particulary better, (cable gland or fischer M/F) what are the differences? Is your web site going to be available to read in English? Thanks. __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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Sutty Classic Kiss diver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Glossop, Derbyshire, UK Posts: 800	Re: simple HUD I'm still happy with Uri's unit - we've done a few mods to make it even more MCCR friendly (which I'll post after anothe couple of dives - tommorrow hopefully). It gives me a simple green=OK type signal with easily understood flicker-if-high, flash-if-low, add red if far out of range sequence of signals. It is very easy to understand under water and gives you outputs of all 3 cells. Neil
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2nd January 2006, 05:35	#24 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: simple HUD Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers) the hud is for sale Looks nice Paul. What is the depth rating for the connectors shown in your pictures ? When you have the brochure written in English, could you let us know since I am interested in having an extra mean of monitoring the loop PO2 independent of the Vision electronic via a fourth sensor located at the Y-adapter at the top of the scrubber. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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2nd January 2006, 05:37	#25 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: simple HUD Quote: (Originally Posted by Sutty) ...we've done a few mods... Neil, When you are making such mods, do you have to send it back to Uri for re-program, or something you could do yourself ? Also, is it possible for the Uri HUD to function under Smithers Code mode if specifically requested ? __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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2nd January 2006, 06:10	#26 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,495	Re: simple HUD hello deco, the depth range does not depend on the cable glands shown on the pictures: the gland serves only to enter the breather, the do not seal more then the pressure diff between in and outside of the breather sealing is done with potting the cables both sides, the hud-cable, and the cell-cable: even the side of the molex connectors the cables are interrupted and potted you can use it on a vision, the gauge can be set up for one ore two cells regards paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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2nd January 2006, 06:12	#27 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,495	Re: simple HUD Quote: (Originally Posted by Genesis) Intesting perspectives here.... will definitely looking into incorporating some of them into the K1 controller's HUD ?? what is the output voltage of the K1?? the hud refuses to callibrate if the voltage (for 100% oxi) <35mV or > 60mV regards paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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2nd January 2006, 06:24	#28 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: simple HUD Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers) the depth range does not depend on the cable glands shown on the pictures: the gland serves only to enter the breather, the do not seal more then the pressure diff between in and outside of the breather sealing is done with potting the cables both sides, the hud-cable, and the cell-cable: even the side of the molex connectors the cables are interrupted and potted I agree on the HUD side since I don't think there is any air cavity with everything potted. However, if you have any compartment sealed at 1 atm (which the gauge shown in the picture above the SPG looks like at 1 atm) than the cable gland will see a true differential pressure at depth. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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2nd January 2006, 06:52	#29 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,495	Re: simple HUD Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) I agree on the HUD side since I don't think there is any air cavity with everything potted. However, if you have any compartment sealed at 1 atm (which the gauge shown in the picture above the SPG looks like at 1 atm) than the cable gland will see a true differential pressure at depth. no, the cable gland is just to enter the 1atm box nicely: behind the gland the cable is interrupted and potted in a compartment from the box designed for that purpose we used the rEvodream up to 122 (estimate +100 dives at + 80m) regards paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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2nd January 2006, 07:07	#30 (permalink)
Sutty Classic Kiss diver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Glossop, Derbyshire, UK Posts: 800	Re: simple HUD Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Neil, When you are making such mods, do you have to send it back to Uri for re-program, or something you could do yourself ? Also, is it possible for the Uri HUD to function under Smithers Code mode if specifically requested ? It has to go back to Uri, there is a programming port which is intended to be permanently sealed, we have left it temporarily sealed to allow adjustments. Once we have it sorted it will be sealed up. (Soon) Yes, no reason you couldn't have the smithers code if you wanted. I understand you could also have 2 different systems programmed and switch between them, which is tempting but introduces the possibility of accidentally toggling between the systems. Neil
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