The perfect CCR

Deepwreck · 29th December 2005, 20:23

I will start out by saying that no Rebreather has everything, nor can any one RB have everything everyone would want, but what if it did.

So for sake of argument what would you put into your perfect Rebreather.
Hose routing
ADV
Canister life
Price
ECT.

Nick uk. · 29th December 2005, 21:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by Deepwreck)

I will start out by saying that no Rebreather has everything, nor can any one RB have everything everyone would want, but what if it did.

So for sake of argument what would you put into your perfect Rebreather.

Hose routing

streemlined like a Ferrari!

ADV

Auto with manual overdrive

Canister life

10hrs.

Price

4000 (Euro's)

ECT. fully independant eletronics with deco capabilities. FFM with BOV, and quick conects to bail out bottles slung'. low WOB perfectly weighted so i can just have 2k's on my belt with my dry suit.

oh yeh, 100% working all the time.

That'l do...........for starters.

trey · 29th December 2005, 21:39

To me the perfect Rebreather would be something recreational (130 ft) to get more OC divers crossed over...in about the $2000 retail range. Discounted to, say $1500, and throw in the cert. The only requirements would be OW, AOW, and Nitrox to keep the quals simple and encourage more divers to get started.

Unit would be an extremely small SCR with a small 1.5-2 hr canister and a 4 ltr (30 cu ft) steel tank mounted on the back maybe in some sort of box...(maybe not...whatever makes it look slick) and OTS counter lungs. Dosage device would be kinda like an Azi, only accomodating a single gas, but retaining the injection feature to bring up the O2 in the loop if it gets low. All hoses and the reg would remain made from commonly available parts (standard IP DIN reg...standard hoses, etc). Unit would be available with wing as small as 20lbs on up to 40ish. Bailout 2nd stage would be attached to the reg as well as the inflator hose. This would keep it simple and if divers wanted to solo, they would be taught to carry extra bail-out. Unit would only use 32-40% nitrox as the drive gas.

I think a unit like this would be cool for regular fun dives and would serve as a 'gateway drug' to the bigger, badder RBs...and would just be quick and simple for ALL Rebreather divers that had no plan to drop below the 130 ft mark or to do a long dive. Am I crazy?

It's what I'd like to see...

-T

Ken · 29th December 2005, 22:17

The perfect rebreather would have a little, tummy mounted bailout buddy attached. Something like a parastic male on a large deep sea anglerfish.

This little, attached Rebreather would always be working in the background and be ready to go when the big unit decided to go South or needed a little something extra.

wizbang · 29th December 2005, 22:40

BMCL
Light frame but with spot for internal soft weights
Completed unit is trim neutral
Electronic controller as well as KISS valve.
Offboard system as standard capable of breathing off at depth and feeds the BOV.
HUD
Frame capable of various tanks.
4 to 6 hour scrubber duration under worst load.
No tools required for cleaning breakdown and calibration.
Sensors are easily purchased (various brands types usable in a pinch)
Sensor connector is corrosion proof.
Place for a forth cell as std
Solenoid is servicable
A simple way to drain the system from a partial flood
Batteries are std, cheap and readily available
External on off switch, reachable during the dive
Set points can be changed and adjusted during the dive.

and maybe
When the controller is switched off the handset can still display the PPO2

that should do for now I am sure other will list some stuff that I consider a must have as well.

trey · 29th December 2005, 22:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by trey)

To me the perfect Rebreather would be something recreational (130 ft) to get more OC divers crossed over...in about the $2000 retail range. Discounted to, say $1500, and throw in the cert. The only requirements would be OW, AOW, and Nitrox to keep the quals simple and encourage more divers to get started.

Unit would be an extremely small SCR with a small 1.5-2 hr canister and a 4 ltr (30 cu ft) steel tank mounted on the back maybe in some sort of box...(maybe not...whatever makes it look slick) and OTS counter lungs. Dosage device would be kinda like an Azi, only accomodating a single gas, but retaining the injection feature to bring up the O2 in the loop if it gets low. All hoses and the reg would remain made from commonly available parts (standard IP DIN reg...standard hoses, etc). Unit would be available with wing as small as 20lbs on up to 40ish. Bailout 2nd stage would be attached to the reg as well as the inflator hose. This would keep it simple and if divers wanted to solo, they would be taught to carry extra bail-out. Unit would only use 32-40% nitrox as the drive gas.

I think a unit like this would be cool for regular fun dives and would serve as a 'gateway drug' to the bigger, badder RBs...and would just be quick and simple for ALL Rebreather divers that had no plan to drop below the 130 ft mark or to do a long dive. Am I crazy?

It's what I'd like to see...

-T

Oh wait...you did say CCR...that's a whole other story...TBC...

Nad · 30th December 2005, 11:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nick uk.)

oh yeh, 100% working all the time.

That'l do...........for starters.

You forgot a Coffee machine...

Nad

Nick uk. · 30th December 2005, 13:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nad)

You forgot a Coffee machine...

Nad

If you'll be my buddy, doesn't your ourobros have one?

Nad · 30th December 2005, 13:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nick uk.)

If you'll be my buddy, doesn't your ourobros have one?

Ehm...well...not

, for the moment just Beer.

Cheers

Nad

Nick uk. · 30th December 2005, 13:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nad)

Ehm...well...not

, for the moment just Beer.

Cheers

Nad

It doesn't get much more british than that!!!!

29th December 2005, 20:23	#1 (permalink)
Deepwreck Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 112	The perfect CCR I will start out by saying that no Rebreather has everything, nor can any one RB have everything everyone would want, but what if it did. So for sake of argument what would you put into your perfect Rebreather. Hose routing ADV Canister life Price ECT.
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29th December 2005, 21:20	#2 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 579	Re: The perfect CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Deepwreck) I will start out by saying that no Rebreather has everything, nor can any one RB have everything everyone would want, but what if it did. So for sake of argument what would you put into your perfect Rebreather. Hose routing streemlined like a Ferrari! ADV Auto with manual overdrive Canister life 10hrs. Price 4000 (Euro's) ECT. fully independant eletronics with deco capabilities. FFM with BOV, and quick conects to bail out bottles slung'. low WOB perfectly weighted so i can just have 2k's on my belt with my dry suit. oh yeh, 100% working all the time. That'l do...........for starters. __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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29th December 2005, 21:39	#3 (permalink)
trey Total NOOB Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 108	Re: The perfect CCR To me the perfect Rebreather would be something recreational (130 ft) to get more OC divers crossed over...in about the $2000 retail range. Discounted to, say $1500, and throw in the cert. The only requirements would be OW, AOW, and Nitrox to keep the quals simple and encourage more divers to get started. Unit would be an extremely small SCR with a small 1.5-2 hr canister and a 4 ltr (30 cu ft) steel tank mounted on the back maybe in some sort of box...(maybe not...whatever makes it look slick) and OTS counter lungs. Dosage device would be kinda like an Azi, only accomodating a single gas, but retaining the injection feature to bring up the O2 in the loop if it gets low. All hoses and the reg would remain made from commonly available parts (standard IP DIN reg...standard hoses, etc). Unit would be available with wing as small as 20lbs on up to 40ish. Bailout 2nd stage would be attached to the reg as well as the inflator hose. This would keep it simple and if divers wanted to solo, they would be taught to carry extra bail-out. Unit would only use 32-40% nitrox as the drive gas. I think a unit like this would be cool for regular fun dives and would serve as a 'gateway drug' to the bigger, badder RBs...and would just be quick and simple for ALL Rebreather divers that had no plan to drop below the 130 ft mark or to do a long dive. Am I crazy? It's what I'd like to see... -T
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29th December 2005, 22:17	#4 (permalink)
Ken Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 320	Re: The perfect CCR The perfect rebreather would have a little, tummy mounted bailout buddy attached. Something like a parastic male on a large deep sea anglerfish. This little, attached Rebreather would always be working in the background and be ready to go when the big unit decided to go South or needed a little something extra.
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29th December 2005, 22:40	#5 (permalink)
wizbang WEB MERMEN Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 379	Re: The perfect CCR BMCL Light frame but with spot for internal soft weights Completed unit is trim neutral Electronic controller as well as KISS valve. Offboard system as standard capable of breathing off at depth and feeds the BOV. HUD Frame capable of various tanks. 4 to 6 hour scrubber duration under worst load. No tools required for cleaning breakdown and calibration. Sensors are easily purchased (various brands types usable in a pinch) Sensor connector is corrosion proof. Place for a forth cell as std Solenoid is servicable A simple way to drain the system from a partial flood Batteries are std, cheap and readily available External on off switch, reachable during the dive Set points can be changed and adjusted during the dive. and maybe When the controller is switched off the handset can still display the PPO2 that should do for now I am sure other will list some stuff that I consider a must have as well.
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29th December 2005, 22:45	#6 (permalink)
trey Total NOOB Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 108	Re: The perfect CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by trey) To me the perfect Rebreather would be something recreational (130 ft) to get more OC divers crossed over...in about the $2000 retail range. Discounted to, say $1500, and throw in the cert. The only requirements would be OW, AOW, and Nitrox to keep the quals simple and encourage more divers to get started. Unit would be an extremely small SCR with a small 1.5-2 hr canister and a 4 ltr (30 cu ft) steel tank mounted on the back maybe in some sort of box...(maybe not...whatever makes it look slick) and OTS counter lungs. Dosage device would be kinda like an Azi, only accomodating a single gas, but retaining the injection feature to bring up the O2 in the loop if it gets low. All hoses and the reg would remain made from commonly available parts (standard IP DIN reg...standard hoses, etc). Unit would be available with wing as small as 20lbs on up to 40ish. Bailout 2nd stage would be attached to the reg as well as the inflator hose. This would keep it simple and if divers wanted to solo, they would be taught to carry extra bail-out. Unit would only use 32-40% nitrox as the drive gas. I think a unit like this would be cool for regular fun dives and would serve as a 'gateway drug' to the bigger, badder RBs...and would just be quick and simple for ALL Rebreather divers that had no plan to drop below the 130 ft mark or to do a long dive. Am I crazy? It's what I'd like to see... -T Oh wait...you did say CCR...that's a whole other story...TBC...
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30th December 2005, 11:29	#7 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 941	Re: The perfect CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Nick uk.) oh yeh, 100% working all the time. That'l do...........for starters. You forgot a Coffee machine... Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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30th December 2005, 13:18	#8 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 579	Re: The perfect CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Nad) You forgot a Coffee machine... Nad If you'll be my buddy, doesn't your ourobros have one? __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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30th December 2005, 13:21	#9 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 941	Re: The perfect CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Nick uk.) If you'll be my buddy, doesn't your ourobros have one? Ehm...well...not , for the moment just Beer. Cheers Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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30th December 2005, 13:52	#10 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 579	Re: The perfect CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Nad) Ehm...well...not , for the moment just Beer. Cheers Nad It doesn't get much more british than that!!!! __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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