You're too short. (read the post before voting)

wizbang · 29th December 2005, 05:36

I am trying for the title of Poll King.

If you would dive to 120m (400ft) for 20 min bottom time with a total runtime of 194mins, please vote. The water temp is 15C (60f) and is ocean diving, CCR all the way. (support crew is standing by)

Is the runtime above:
Too short (by 5 mins or less)
Too long (by 5 mins or more)
About right (within 5mins)

If it is too short or long and you feel like posting let us know what the runtime is, what gas choice and what program.

Thanks, Wiz

**Steve** · 29th December 2005, 07:30

Too quick for me Wiz. That looks pretty much spot on for speed to what bent the crap out of me. I used to run VPM Nominal with not so much as a niggle. I decided to go a bit more conservative VPMB +2 and this looks a lot like that. Now I run E3 for anything like that dive

***jradomski*** · 29th December 2005, 08:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by wizbang)

I am trying for the title of Poll King.

If you would dive to 120m (400ft) for 20 min bottom time with a total runtime of 194mins, please vote. The water temp is 15C (60f) and is ocean diving, CCR all the way. (support crew is standing by)

Is the runtime above:
Too short (by 5 mins or less)
Too long (by 5 mins or more)
About right (within 5mins)

If it is too short or long and you feel like posting let us know what the runtime is, what gas choice and what program.

Thanks, Wiz

Too long for me.. I have done profiles like this with runtimes in the 140 (nominal)-160 (extra conservative)min range, using RGBM based tables..

My gas was typically 65% Helium 10% oxygen

***Decodiver*** · 29th December 2005, 11:24

I would be looking at a minimum runtime of 222 minutes.

Doing 18 minutes bottom time would get me out in minimum 194 minutes.

I would use a diluent of 6/72 running at a PPO2 of 1.2

at 45m I would flush through a 20/30 dil then run the unit at 1.4 PPO2.

This is using proprietary tables based on VPM-B +10% deep stops padded with raw Buhlmann +10% Time SF.

It also gives me an END of 25 metres.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

wizbang · 29th December 2005, 19:47

Thanks guys and Girls,
Feel free to put up a simple post something like:
Too short
241mins
10/65
VPMBE+3
which is what I would prefer to do.

I guess I am just trying to see the variability between us as divers.
Thanks for contributing.

denzel · 29th December 2005, 21:09

Totall off topic,

Wizkey, youl old pollmeister, how do you start a poll?
I can't seem to find it??

denz.

wizbang · 29th December 2005, 21:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by denzel)

Totall off topic,
Wizkey, youl old pollmeister, how do you start a poll?
I can't seem to find it??

denz.

Hey Denz', when you start a new thread you get the choice at the bottom to have a poll with it.
Becarefull with what you name the poll because it takes an admin to edit it, unlike the thread which you can edit anytime.

DaveP · 29th December 2005, 22:01

Too short.

220mins

7/67

Buhlmann with 20/80 GF

Regards

Dave

dantheman · 29th December 2005, 22:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by denzel)

Totally off topic, ...

And in that vein, may I say (given your avatar),
it's remarkable how quickly you regrew your hair
once back on the continent and out of that QLD sun ...

denzel · 30th December 2005, 17:21

Thanx Wiz, will start a new one then.

And thanx Dan for the hair compliment, just what I needed having a bad hairday already!

denz.

View Poll Results: Wizbang's runtime is: (read first post before voting)
Too short.	17	60.71%
Too long.	2	7.14%
About right	5	17.86%
Your drunk, I wouldn't be caught dead that deep.	4	14.29%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

29th December 2005, 05:36	#1 (permalink)
wizbang WEB MERMEN Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 379	You're too short. (read the post before voting) I am trying for the title of Poll King. If you would dive to 120m (400ft) for 20 min bottom time with a total runtime of 194mins, please vote. The water temp is 15C (60f) and is ocean diving, CCR all the way. (support crew is standing by) Is the runtime above: Too short (by 5 mins or less) Too long (by 5 mins or more) About right (within 5mins) If it is too short or long and you feel like posting let us know what the runtime is, what gas choice and what program. Thanks, Wiz Last edited by wizbang : 29th December 2005 at 05:45. Reason: More details
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29th December 2005, 07:30	#2 (permalink)
Steve Ladies bring a plate Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth - Australia Posts: 1,070	Re: You're too short. (read the post before voting) Too quick for me Wiz. That looks pretty much spot on for speed to what bent the crap out of me. I used to run VPM Nominal with not so much as a niggle. I decided to go a bit more conservative VPMB +2 and this looks a lot like that. Now I run E3 for anything like that dive __________________ WARNING: I contain occasional coarse language, extreme sexual references, nudity, and adult themes, which may offend some people - Usually churchy types.
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29th December 2005, 08:01	#3 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 2,817	Re: You're too short. (read the post before voting) Quote: (Originally Posted by wizbang) I am trying for the title of Poll King. If you would dive to 120m (400ft) for 20 min bottom time with a total runtime of 194mins, please vote. The water temp is 15C (60f) and is ocean diving, CCR all the way. (support crew is standing by) Is the runtime above: Too short (by 5 mins or less) Too long (by 5 mins or more) About right (within 5mins) If it is too short or long and you feel like posting let us know what the runtime is, what gas choice and what program. Thanks, Wiz Too long for me.. I have done profiles like this with runtimes in the 140 (nominal)-160 (extra conservative)min range, using RGBM based tables.. My gas was typically 65% Helium 10% oxygen __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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29th December 2005, 11:24	#4 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,168	Re: You're too short. (read the post before voting) I would be looking at a minimum runtime of 222 minutes. Doing 18 minutes bottom time would get me out in minimum 194 minutes. I would use a diluent of 6/72 running at a PPO2 of 1.2 at 45m I would flush through a 20/30 dil then run the unit at 1.4 PPO2. This is using proprietary tables based on VPM-B +10% deep stops padded with raw Buhlmann +10% Time SF. It also gives me an END of 25 metres. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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29th December 2005, 19:47	#5 (permalink)
wizbang WEB MERMEN Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 379	Re: You're too short. (read the post before voting) Thanks guys and Girls, Feel free to put up a simple post something like: Too short 241mins 10/65 VPMBE+3 which is what I would prefer to do. I guess I am just trying to see the variability between us as divers. Thanks for contributing.
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29th December 2005, 21:09	#6 (permalink)
denzel Holiday diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Perth! Posts: 358	Re: You're too short. (read the post before voting) Totall off topic, Wizkey, youl old pollmeister, how do you start a poll? I can't seem to find it?? denz. __________________ My deepest so far, 558.50 mtr, my rig a LF90D...
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29th December 2005, 21:42	#7 (permalink)
wizbang WEB MERMEN Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 379	Re: You're too short. (read the post before voting) Quote: (Originally Posted by denzel) Totall off topic, Wizkey, youl old pollmeister, how do you start a poll? I can't seem to find it?? denz. Hey Denz', when you start a new thread you get the choice at the bottom to have a poll with it. Becarefull with what you name the poll because it takes an admin to edit it, unlike the thread which you can edit anytime.
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29th December 2005, 22:01	#8 (permalink)
DaveP New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK Cornwall Posts: 34	Re: You're too short. (read the post before voting) Too short. 220mins 7/67 Buhlmann with 20/80 GF Regards Dave
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29th December 2005, 22:13	#9 (permalink)
dantheman Emoticonoclast Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Join Date: May 2005 Location: NorthEast USA Posts: 393	Re: You're too short. (read the post before voting) Quote: (Originally Posted by denzel) Totally off topic, ... And in that vein, may I say (given your avatar), it's remarkable how quickly you regrew your hair once back on the continent and out of that QLD sun ...
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30th December 2005, 17:21	#10 (permalink)
denzel Holiday diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Perth! Posts: 358	Re: You're too short. (read the post before voting) Thanx Wiz, will start a new one then. And thanx Dan for the hair compliment, just what I needed having a bad hairday already! denz. __________________ My deepest so far, 558.50 mtr, my rig a LF90D...
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