Quick Sealing connects 'help'

uwmadness · 25th December 2005, 01:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by JimG)

I've had a swagelok QC-6 connector set on my classic kiss for the past year and a half. I use it to connect my off-board bail-out dil to the dil manifold..................
JimG
Tampa

hi Jim

i would like to know the swagelok part number you'been using for your dil..

and please which is the best to be used on low pressure hoses?

Thanks

Fabio

divetheworld · 25th December 2005, 12:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by decowarrior)

ive tried the ap ones in anger at 90m and they were rated to 50m but they worked fine with no noticed drop in permormance

although they do take a little tlc when used in saltwater

I was trying to say that, yes.

But just to clarify guys, the GCS performs flawlessly when connected. No flow rate problems.
When I disconnect underwater to plug in a different gas source the femail does not seal and flow stop. The internal valve gets stuck.
Plugging it back in again or shutting down that gas sorts it, but thats not how its supposed to work. Cleaning it up at the end of the day gets it back to normal.
I might try something other than fomblin, see if that helps or do all you guys find this bother?
Just a bit of a surprise at depth when you go to switch and gas p1sses out every where at 10bar above ambient. Your arse goes for a second before you shut down.

decoweenie · 25th December 2005, 12:25

Cheers for the clarification!

I agree that we could work around it, but definitely not ideal...

I might have to go dig out the old QC-6 connectors now...

JimG · 25th December 2005, 15:56

Fabio,

Here are the parts I ordered:
Item: 1
Status: Accepted
Part Number: SS-QC6-D-4PF
Description: QUICK-CONNECT STEM
Quantity: 1
Price: 34.00
Amount: 34.00
Schedule Quantity: 1 Delivery: 06/01/2004
Notes:
DOUBLE END SHUT-OFF
Item: 2
Status: Accepted
Part Number: ss-qc6-b-4pf
Description: QUICK-CONNECT BODY
Quantity: 1
Price: 34.00
Amount: 34.00
Schedule Quantity: 1 Delivery: 06/01/2004
Item: 3
Status: Accepted
Part Number: ss-4-HC-7-4
Description: HOSE CONNECTOR
Quantity: 4
Price: 6.20
Amount: 24.80
Schedule Quantity: 4 Delivery: 06/01/2004

Item: 1
Part Number: SS-43M4
Description: INSTRUMENT BALL VALVE
Order Quantity: 1
Balance Quantity: 0
Invoice Quantity: 1
Price: 63.90
Item: 2
Part Number: SS-4-HCG
Description: 1/4" HEX COUPLING
Order Quantity: 2
Balance Quantity: 0
Invoice Quantity: 2
Price: 8.20

I used swagelock hose adapter and a crimp to attache the valve+female part of coupler to a standard lp hose that goes into my dil block. The male end was attached via a swagelock hose adapter on a short lp hose that goes to the side-slung tank. The Swagelok catalog is confusing and has so many possible configurations for every fitting that it took forever for me to figure out which parts to order.

JimG
Tampa, FL

Quote: (Originally Posted by uwmadness)

hi Jim

i would like to know the swagelok part number you'been using for your dil..

and please which is the best to be used on low pressure hoses?

Thanks

Fabio

uwmadness · 25th December 2005, 22:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by JimG)

Fabio,

Here are the parts I ordered:
........................................

many thanks

Cheers

fabio

zeroviz · 26th December 2005, 04:23

I ended up using the GSC AP Valves connectors because they were cheap and available, but they do restrict the flow a bit......noticable when swapping over to open circuit via DSV on my classic Kiss.
It's not a huge problem, but I would like to find something better eventually

Neil

25th December 2005, 01:35	#11 (permalink)
uwmadness New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Italy-Sicily Posts: 54	Re: Quick Sealing connects 'help' Quote: (Originally Posted by JimG) I've had a swagelok QC-6 connector set on my classic kiss for the past year and a half. I use it to connect my off-board bail-out dil to the dil manifold.................. JimG Tampa hi Jim i would like to know the swagelok part number you'been using for your dil.. and please which is the best to be used on low pressure hoses? Thanks Fabio __________________ DIR - Dive Inspiration Rebreather www.uwmadness.it www.allrebreather.eu
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25th December 2005, 12:14	#12 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,562	Re: Quick Sealing connects 'help' Quote: (Originally Posted by decowarrior) ive tried the ap ones in anger at 90m and they were rated to 50m but they worked fine with no noticed drop in permormance although they do take a little tlc when used in saltwater I was trying to say that, yes. But just to clarify guys, the GCS performs flawlessly when connected. No flow rate problems. When I disconnect underwater to plug in a different gas source the femail does not seal and flow stop. The internal valve gets stuck. Plugging it back in again or shutting down that gas sorts it, but thats not how its supposed to work. Cleaning it up at the end of the day gets it back to normal. I might try something other than fomblin, see if that helps or do all you guys find this bother? Just a bit of a surprise at depth when you go to switch and gas p1sses out every where at 10bar above ambient. Your arse goes for a second before you shut down. __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe Last edited by divetheworld : 25th December 2005 at 12:18.
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25th December 2005, 12:25	#13 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Quick Sealing connects 'help' Cheers for the clarification! I agree that we could work around it, but definitely not ideal... I might have to go dig out the old QC-6 connectors now... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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25th December 2005, 15:56	#14 (permalink)
JimG New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 39	Re: Quick Sealing connects 'help' Fabio, Here are the parts I ordered: Item: 1 Status: Accepted Part Number: SS-QC6-D-4PF Description: QUICK-CONNECT STEM Quantity: 1 Price: 34.00 Amount: 34.00 Schedule Quantity: 1 Delivery: 06/01/2004 Notes: DOUBLE END SHUT-OFF Item: 2 Status: Accepted Part Number: ss-qc6-b-4pf Description: QUICK-CONNECT BODY Quantity: 1 Price: 34.00 Amount: 34.00 Schedule Quantity: 1 Delivery: 06/01/2004 Item: 3 Status: Accepted Part Number: ss-4-HC-7-4 Description: HOSE CONNECTOR Quantity: 4 Price: 6.20 Amount: 24.80 Schedule Quantity: 4 Delivery: 06/01/2004 Item: 1 Part Number: SS-43M4 Description: INSTRUMENT BALL VALVE Order Quantity: 1 Balance Quantity: 0 Invoice Quantity: 1 Price: 63.90 Item: 2 Part Number: SS-4-HCG Description: 1/4" HEX COUPLING Order Quantity: 2 Balance Quantity: 0 Invoice Quantity: 2 Price: 8.20 I used swagelock hose adapter and a crimp to attache the valve+female part of coupler to a standard lp hose that goes into my dil block. The male end was attached via a swagelock hose adapter on a short lp hose that goes to the side-slung tank. The Swagelok catalog is confusing and has so many possible configurations for every fitting that it took forever for me to figure out which parts to order. JimG Tampa, FL Quote: (Originally Posted by uwmadness) hi Jim i would like to know the swagelok part number you'been using for your dil.. and please which is the best to be used on low pressure hoses? Thanks Fabio
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25th December 2005, 22:30	#15 (permalink)
uwmadness New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Italy-Sicily Posts: 54	Re: Quick Sealing connects 'help' Quote: (Originally Posted by JimG) Fabio, Here are the parts I ordered: ........................................ many thanks Cheers fabio __________________ DIR - Dive Inspiration Rebreather www.uwmadness.it www.allrebreather.eu
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26th December 2005, 04:23	#16 (permalink)
zeroviz New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NZ Posts: 24	Re: Quick Sealing connects 'help' I ended up using the GSC AP Valves connectors because they were cheap and available, but they do restrict the flow a bit......noticable when swapping over to open circuit via DSV on my classic Kiss. It's not a huge problem, but I would like to find something better eventually Neil
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