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Old 27th December 2005, 22:01   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Frame For Kiss And Meg!

Thanks for that Neil, it very much appreciated, http://www.rebreatherworld.com/galle...&imageuser=637
the little coloured in bits in the picture on the bottom plate will be cut out to make 4 d-rings
http://www.rebreatherworld.com/galle...age.php?i=1428
and there will be a few more little tweaks but that's basically it.
any feed back will be gratefully received

we will be testing in water this week at stony cove on Thursday if any one need a closer look

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Old 28th December 2005, 03:00   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Frame For Kiss And Meg!

I am interested...put me on the mailing list thanks.
My main worry is line traps...any concerns there?
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Old 28th December 2005, 09:53   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Frame For Kiss And Meg!

hi Richard your on my list!
i don't see it being any problem on the MEG as the handle is level with the head/ hoses and an inflated wing,
i don't have any pictures of it on a kiss yet but it will sit in about the same position.
hopefully I'll get some pictures done soon, unless there is some one near me with a kiss that wants to give it a test run.
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Old 28th December 2005, 18:43   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Frame For Kiss And Meg!

Mmm - that looks nice!
I have a Classic Kiss and am near Manchester if that's any use?
Put me on your list anyway!

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Re: Frame For Kiss And Meg!

Hi John....looks good,....count me in for one sil'vous platter!!

I assume that the distance from the base of your plate to the underside of the Meg body is enough to stow a 1.5ltr 'dumpy' Argon bottle?

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hi moley we have just got back from testing the frame/stand I'm hoping Silent will be along later with some more pictures of the in water stuff,
the frame was made to accommodate 1.5 or 2 Lt tanks or even big battery packs but the battery's might make it harder to trim out the unit,
I'll let silent tell every one what he thinks of it, as he was the one diving it!
to me it looked great under water, trim wise and style and defiantly makes it easier to put the unit on if your taller than 4'3"!!
DAVE COOPER you asked what the in water weight of the frame was, well after today i think no more than 1.0 kg neg this is only a guess but very little change to normal, if you need me to be more exact then i can go find a big barrel and my scales.
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Hi John....looks good,....count me in for one sil'vous platter!!

I assume that the distance from the base of your plate to the underside of the Meg body is enough to stow a 1.5ltr 'dumpy' Argon bottle?

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Re: Frame For Kiss And Meg - Test Run

Hi all,

Sorry for the delay in posting my report, I got sidetracked by several cans of beer & a certain Lara Croft aka Angelina Jolie

I've posted several pics that John took yesterday while we were at Stoney (which was bloody freezing at -2/3 deg C Air temp!)
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First of all the stand makes putting on the Meg a great deal easier for me.
Being 6'2", normally with the Meg sat on the tailgate of my pickup I still have to stoop down to get my arms into the harness, then stand up to take the weight & then tighten shoulder/crotch straps etc.
With the stand though I was able to sit on the tailgate and put my arms straight into the harness and then tighten the straps etc before having to stand up.

Walking down to the waters edge it did feel a bit odd as the back of the stand was resting against my bum, but this 'seemed' to help take some of the direct weight of the Meg off the shoulder straps of the harness.

Once in the water again it felt a little odd having the stand resting on my bum & I thought I would have definate trim problems. How wrong was I!
The fact that my suit inflation bottle was now located in the base of the stand made me think I would be tail heavy but this had no noticeable effect on my trim.
(The more eagle-eyed may have noticed that my argon bottle does have a neoprene wrap on it, but it is only 3mm so doubt it affects the buoyancy a great deal).

Once off and swimming I found it became very easy to forget all about the stand, trim was no different and staying horizontal required no effort.

One thing was apparent after the first dive of approx 60mins, as I got out of the water I noticed that I didn't have any of the usual lower back ache, again this would appear to be down to the fact that the stand stops the scrubber can sitting in the small of my back & causing the aches!

All in all I'm well and truely sold, so even if John doesn't get the numbers for a proper production run (can't think why not though! ) I'll get him to have one made for me.

I know Dave was asking about the weight in water, I can't answer that question directly either but I've put the stand on a set of scales and it comes in at just under 1.75kg so I think John's estimate of 1kg neg is probably pretty damn close.

Cheers John for letting me test out one of your creations

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looking good guys, Havent seen your rig in the flesh yet neil looks cool cu both in the new year

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Re: Frame For Kiss And Meg!

Can you take the srubber off without removing the frame? I might have several Kiss Classic people interested out here in Seattle. What would be the cost US $ and any problem shipping to the US.
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Re: Frame For Kiss And Meg!

hi Pm sent but basically it will be no different than you do now with the Kiss as the frame is held between the bolts with the 11" centres
the cost i think will be around $180 US and shipping is no problem apart from the shape..!! it will need a biggish box.

I've just been asked if i can get them anodised black
i guess i can but haven't looked into cost for that,
i know i can get it powder coated with out to much problem

what would people prefer? plain and cheaper or anodised/coated but more money??
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Can you take the srubber off without removing the frame? I might have several Kiss Classic people interested out here in Seattle. What would be the cost US $ and any problem shipping to the US.
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