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| View Poll Results: How long does it take to set up your unit from scratch? | |||
| 10 mins or less | | 7 | 5.34% |
| 20 mins | | 31 | 23.66% |
| 30 mins | | 39 | 29.77% |
| 40 mins | | 15 | 11.45% |
| 50 mins | | 7 | 5.34% |
| 60 mins | | 22 | 16.79% |
| 90 mins | | 7 | 5.34% |
| More than 90 mins | | 3 | 2.29% |
| Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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| Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: How long does your setup take? Quote: (Originally Posted by apitkin) I found the canister really hard to get on (and off) with the standard setup, but I altered the way it is located when I built my custom backplate, and it's very easy now. Hi Andy, how's the backplate set up to help with the scrubber? What's the trick?-AndyAndy |
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| Fighting Girl Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Land of Oz
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: How long does your setup take? Quote: (Originally Posted by Rich Sawkins) Well I thought it was around 30 mins but last night I timed it and it was closer to 60 ! I was there in October Rich.1. PRISM 2. 60 mins including scrubber fill. Probably only take 45 mins except I take my time especially with the scrubber filling and have to stop half way through to get a refil - see point 4. 3. Follow the checklist provided in the manual - I generally forget something otherwise ! 4. Drinking two beers whilst doing it, a man must not get thirsty whilst concentrating. 5. I don't analyze the gas as I do that when I get fills. 6. Getting the scrubber basket on - easy with an assistant, not without. It wasn't just the hour it took you guys to set up. It was the other hours spent repairing various bits ![]()
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| Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York, NY USA
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: How long does your setup take? Quote: (Originally Posted by abowie) I was there in October Rich. It wasn't just the hour it took you guys to set up. It was the other hours spent repairing various bits ![]() LOL, isn't that the truth. Insp. - 30 Min (max) Use a self made check list (part of the prism and Insp. manuals). |
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| Classic KISSer Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia, Sunny Sydney
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: How long does your setup take? My $0:02 1. KISS 2. 40 mins 3. I have my own checklist, which includes everything. 4. A few - this includes boosting O2 or dil as needed - I get it going and keep on building the unit up. I also record any adjustments that are 'outside' the norm, such as calibration of a sensor that's way off in a maintenence log. I do a 'dust check' just to be anal about things. Lastly, I include such mundane things as water, talc for drysuit and the busness ends for the pee-valve. 5. I hardly ever analyse gas since I generally fill myself and use gas from a store in my old twinset. (Actually, I analysed the twins yesterday, for the first time in 4 months, spot on hte money!) 6. Boosting gas, but I don't watch it, I keep working. Cheers Andy
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| Evolution Pilot Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia
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![]() | Re: How long does your setup take? Hadn't really timed it before, but about 45 minutes without scrubber change & an hour with, based on the last couple of times. This is based on the unit (Inspo) being fully cleaned & reassembled from the last dive & no irritating problems like corrosion on cell connections etc to solve. Use the standard checklist, including positive & negative pressure test. Check gas each time I fill which is not for every dive. I try to follow a routine to avoid missing anything. MarkK |
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| Prism 'prentice Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: How long does your setup take? 1. Prism 2. With 2 beers, it takes about an hour With red wine, around 90 minutes Dunno why that is. If I was concentrating, about 30 minutes, but things like PP check happen while it's in the car 3. Nah - Prisms simple. I have the 20 step Inspo checklist on the floor though, so I tread on it occasionally 4. Try to get in the water with a rich mix (pushing 100%) and breath it down at ~5m while doing a bubble check to confirm sensors etc. Also calibrate on the almost empty O2, then analyse the new O2 seperately and don't recalibrate (as long as it's only a day or two) 5. Turning the unit on 6. At the moment: redesigning the harness for each dive. But I'm sure I have it sorted now (just a couple of tweeks)
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| New Member Current Rebreather/s: | Re: How long does your setup take? Quote: (Originally Posted by abowie) I was there in October Rich. Now now, don't confuse me with the KISSing boys, they were the ones breaking and repairing things all trip.It wasn't just the hour it took you guys to set up. It was the other hours spent repairing various bits ![]() I missed one dive, sensor issues which was tracked down to dirty contacts - because Luke never cleans the damn things and they were covered in blue stuff!!! Had I bothered to prep the thing fully the night before instead of getting stuck into the beer I would have been fine. |
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| New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Florida
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![]() ![]() | Re: How long does your setup take? I just finished setting up my KISS classic. I began at 8:00 and was finished at 8:30 including the 5 min phone call from my buddy cancelling the dive! I use a mental checklist for assembly but the predive check is on the outside of my toolkit. 1. Cannister filling - 10 minutes. My wife makes me do it outside and I set up a fan to blow away the dust during the filling process. She also makes me use a yard blower to blow the dust off the patio. The actual cannister fill takes less than 5 minutes. The rest of the assembly takes about 15-20 minutes: 3. Install counterlungs and breathing hose/DSV 4. Install tanks 5. Check calibration on air (before turn on tanks) Flush loop with oxygen thoroughly, check readout Turn oxygen off, dump oxygen using oxygen add button Flush loop with diluent, check readout (turn diluent off, drain excess dil with adv button but leave loop pressurized for positive pressure test) I only adjust calibration very occasionally (its amazingly stable) 6. Bolt on backplate, wings, then pull negative test. Set in back of truck, load the rest of my dive gear, then check to see if loop is still negative, release vacuum. 7. At dive site Pre-dive Check: turn tanks on, check gauges and inflator hose push adv button to make sure it works turn on electronics, add a little oxygen manually and look for response. Check bailout regulator function Make sure VR3 is set to proper diluent Prebreath JimG Tampa |
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| New Member Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: How long does your setup take? Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running) Hi Andy, how's the backplate set up to help with the scrubber? What's the trick?-Andy DCP_0379.jpgDCP_0381.jpgHere are a couple of pictures. The first shows the backplate (with everything stripped off). I made a couple of Delrin wedges to support the canister on the backplate. This gives much less friction than the curved pad used on the standard BP. The strap goes through the slots next to the wedges and around the canister. The second picture shows how the wedges are fixed to the backplate with SS screws from the other side. Sorry about the poor picture quality (cheapo digital camera). Andy |
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| Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada
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![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: How long does your setup take? 1. Evolution 2. Approximately 45 mins (50min) 3. Comprehensive checklist (on a sticker inside Rebreather cover) 4. Avoid distraction 5. I hope nothing is left out 6. Pos/Neg tests (10 min each) Westwinds.
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