Buttplates!

EvoMatt · 9th May 2008, 14:47

Hi all,

I want an attach a buttplate to an Evolution without having to replace the standard harness.

The GolemGear Armadillo has 2 eyelets and looks like could be fitted in 2 ways:
1: Drill two holes into the bottom/back of the plastic case and fit the butt-plate to it with two quicklinks.
or
2: There's a 5 inch wide velco strip attaching the bottom of the harness to the bottom of the wing. I could loop webbing around this with two quicklinks hanging off - but might be a bit wobbly.

The DiveRite buttplate (as per the Transpack harness) has webbing loops for 2" waistband as well as eyelets, but sitting here I can't remember if the Evo waistband goes all the way around or simply stops where the weight pouched start?

One interesting alternative is simply strapping a large double d-ring to the crotch straps as per this rebreatherworld link:
http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...armadillo.html

Any advice or comment would be great.

Cheers,
Matt

***Beanie*** · 9th May 2008, 14:52

Not quite the same as mentioned but I use the waist D rings and bungees on the top.

Outlaw Divers , Photos - Rebreathers - Set Ups

seems to work well enough

cool_hardware52 · 9th May 2008, 15:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by EvoMatt)

One interesting alternative is simply strapping a large double d-ring to the crotch straps

Here ya go.

https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=1277

Tobin

breals · 9th May 2008, 17:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52)

Here ya go.

https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=1277

Tobin

I was wondering what that was, now I know.

EvoMatt · 14th May 2008, 15:14

Using a double d-ring on your crotch strap is interesting, but on the Evolution (standard) the crotch straps attached to a ss ring which is stitched on to the unit with webbing.
Mine already has started to come unstitched; can anyone comment on whether its sensible to hand bailouts of the crotch strap?

**DeepBlueInnovation** · 15th May 2008, 00:55

One of the benefits of the Armadillo is that is quite stable as the material is quite stiff. I have found this means little movement in the side mounted bailout cylinders which works well, especially when the crotch strap is threaded through the Armadillo. A friend of mine who has tried many different variations for side mounting both open circuit and closed tried the deep sea supply double d ring solution and didn't find it comfortable due to the movement. This is not a slight on Deep Sea Supply as they make excellent quality products, it was just not the right solution for him, YMMV.

I helped a friend last week adapt an Armadillo for his Inspiration. We used the drainage holes on the case where it sits closest to his body and added eyelets to the Armadillo that lined up with these holes. We then added a stainless bar to the inside of the case to add support and then threaded the bolts through holes drilled in the bar, through the case and into the Armadillo.

Cheers,

Ben.

tflaris · 15th May 2008, 19:02

Hijack....

I found replacing the harness with a Mark Meadows low profile backplate and using a Dive Rite Transplate Deluxe Harness along witht he Undercounter D-Rings from Tobin worked great....

Just added a Golem Gear Sidemount kit which includes the buttplate and attachments for the tank bungies. Haven't dove it yet but have quite of bit of time on my sidemount kit (Nomad) which is of similiar design.

Well worth the cost, time of installing.

PM if you would like pics

9th May 2008, 14:47	#1 (permalink)
EvoMatt New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London Posts: 5	Buttplates! Hi all, I want an attach a buttplate to an Evolution without having to replace the standard harness. The GolemGear Armadillo has 2 eyelets and looks like could be fitted in 2 ways: 1: Drill two holes into the bottom/back of the plastic case and fit the butt-plate to it with two quicklinks. or 2: There's a 5 inch wide velco strip attaching the bottom of the harness to the bottom of the wing. I could loop webbing around this with two quicklinks hanging off - but might be a bit wobbly. The DiveRite buttplate (as per the Transpack harness) has webbing loops for 2" waistband as well as eyelets, but sitting here I can't remember if the Evo waistband goes all the way around or simply stops where the weight pouched start? One interesting alternative is simply strapping a large double d-ring to the crotch straps as per this rebreatherworld link: http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...armadillo.html Any advice or comment would be great. Cheers, Matt
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9th May 2008, 14:52	#2 (permalink)
*Beanie* Politeness officer Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,163	Re: Buttplates! Not quite the same as mentioned but I use the waist D rings and bungees on the top. Outlaw Divers , Photos - Rebreathers - Set Ups seems to work well enough __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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cool_hardware52 RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal USA Posts: 358	Re: Buttplates! Quote: (Originally Posted by EvoMatt) One interesting alternative is simply strapping a large double d-ring to the crotch straps Here ya go. https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=1277 Tobin __________________ www.deepseasupply.com
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breals New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 65	Re: Buttplates! Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52) Here ya go. https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=1277 Tobin I was wondering what that was, now I know. __________________ - Bill Personal Website: www.reals.net Scuba Blog: www.divedown.com
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14th May 2008, 15:14	#5 (permalink)
EvoMatt New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London Posts: 5	Re: Buttplates! Using a double d-ring on your crotch strap is interesting, but on the Evolution (standard) the crotch straps attached to a ss ring which is stitched on to the unit with webbing. Mine already has started to come unstitched; can anyone comment on whether its sensible to hand bailouts of the crotch strap?
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15th May 2008, 00:55	#6 (permalink)
DeepBlueInnovation Prism #007 Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 312	Re: Buttplates! One of the benefits of the Armadillo is that is quite stable as the material is quite stiff. I have found this means little movement in the side mounted bailout cylinders which works well, especially when the crotch strap is threaded through the Armadillo. A friend of mine who has tried many different variations for side mounting both open circuit and closed tried the deep sea supply double d ring solution and didn't find it comfortable due to the movement. This is not a slight on Deep Sea Supply as they make excellent quality products, it was just not the right solution for him, YMMV. I helped a friend last week adapt an Armadillo for his Inspiration. We used the drainage holes on the case where it sits closest to his body and added eyelets to the Armadillo that lined up with these holes. We then added a stainless bar to the inside of the case to add support and then threaded the bolts through holes drilled in the bar, through the case and into the Armadillo. Cheers, Ben.
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tflaris Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida Posts: 227	Re: Buttplates! Hijack.... I found replacing the harness with a Mark Meadows low profile backplate and using a Dive Rite Transplate Deluxe Harness along witht he Undercounter D-Rings from Tobin worked great.... Just added a Golem Gear Sidemount kit which includes the buttplate and attachments for the tank bungies. Haven't dove it yet but have quite of bit of time on my sidemount kit (Nomad) which is of similiar design. Well worth the cost, time of installing. PM if you would like pics __________________ "Except for this one, I have come to the conclusion that all generalizations are false" -Jim Hayes
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