Damn company websites

babar · 22nd October 2005, 22:11

I've been checking out all the Rebreather company websites. Why don't any of them keep them updated. I keep wanting to see the new developments at steam machines, jetsam, and custom rebreathers, but the sites are always the same!

2stoned · 28th October 2005, 08:38

True that.
I too find that to be a general problem.
You could sometimes get the feeling that they really do not want your money.
Either that, or as is probably often the case, they are still far from having developed a safe, finished product.
(Too many customers; too much of a liability risk. Who knows?)
There are solutions to those general problems as stipulated by DeepLife.co.uk.
Though nobody seems to have everything right.
Too bad.

Gadget · 28th October 2005, 09:01

dont forget these companies are relitivley small and probably dont have a IT office simply working on there web sites.

They are out working on and manafacturing the things we all have "Rebreathers".

You can always pick up the phone and call them i bet they will talk to you for hours about all there new ideas and plans.

2stoned · 28th October 2005, 09:27

Your point taken, Gadget.
I have on numerous occasions, spoken and corresponded with some of these companies. They are off cause all working hard to get their baby ready to roll.
The problem is most often with the appetizers, the coming soon, picture this... etc.
If they give you a hint of whats up, tomorrow (which is always nice to know), they need to follow suit. Bring on the data, update the appetizer...
When they do not, they just give you the feeling that either they don't care to elaborate their claims, or they simply lied to look as if they are up there; leading the field.

Note.
I have a lot of respect for the people that are working towards building the safe rebreather. The systems of the future. Not an easy task indeed.
Very complicated task, to design a system that will appear to be simple, but with the requirement of safety, will be intensely complicated inside.
Redundancy, robustness, ease of use, failsafe...
They are after all building a one-person submarine in a shue-box.

**nigelh** · 28th October 2005, 12:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by babar)

I've been checking out all the Rebreather company websites. Why don't any of them keep them updated. I keep wanting to see the new developments at steam machines, jetsam, and custom rebreathers, but the sites are always the same!

*shrug*

I confess we're not in the rebreather field but we do the same.
You publish the *NEW* details when that is what you are selling not before.

***caveseeker7*** · 28th October 2005, 14:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gadget)

dont forget these companies are relitivley small and probably dont have a IT office simply working on there web sites.

They are out working on and manafacturing the things we all have "Rebreathers".

You can always pick up the phone and call them i bet they will talk to you for hours about all there new ideas and plans.

Excellent point!

Another is that schedules for new products are hard to keep and even make in the first place. Probably for the same reason, too.

So if you announce or publish prototype info/photos for example it becomes a two sided sword:
Great that people get news and their intrest is aroused, but not so great if they get disapointed waiting for more or upset they have to wait. Aside from the more people contacting the manufacturer about info, schedules, prices etc, all of which increase the workload.

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babar Curmudgeon Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Sport Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 417	Damn company websites I've been checking out all the Rebreather company websites. Why don't any of them keep them updated. I keep wanting to see the new developments at steam machines, jetsam, and custom rebreathers, but the sites are always the same! __________________ Babar Evolution Plus Sport kiss
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28th October 2005, 08:38	#2 (permalink)
2stoned Such is my point of view Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 77	Re: Damn company websites True that. I too find that to be a general problem. You could sometimes get the feeling that they really do not want your money. Either that, or as is probably often the case, they are still far from having developed a safe, finished product. (Too many customers; too much of a liability risk. Who knows?) There are solutions to those general problems as stipulated by DeepLife.co.uk. Though nobody seems to have everything right. Too bad.
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28th October 2005, 09:01	#3 (permalink)
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28th October 2005, 09:27	#4 (permalink)
2stoned Such is my point of view Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 77	Re: Damn company websites Your point taken, Gadget. I have on numerous occasions, spoken and corresponded with some of these companies. They are off cause all working hard to get their baby ready to roll. The problem is most often with the appetizers, the coming soon, picture this... etc. If they give you a hint of whats up, tomorrow (which is always nice to know), they need to follow suit. Bring on the data, update the appetizer... When they do not, they just give you the feeling that either they don't care to elaborate their claims, or they simply lied to look as if they are up there; leading the field. Note. I have a lot of respect for the people that are working towards building the safe rebreather. The systems of the future. Not an easy task indeed. Very complicated task, to design a system that will appear to be simple, but with the requirement of safety, will be intensely complicated inside. Redundancy, robustness, ease of use, failsafe... They are after all building a one-person submarine in a shue-box. Last edited by 2stoned : 28th October 2005 at 09:38.
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28th October 2005, 12:30	#5 (permalink)
nigelh New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 792	Re: Damn company websites Quote: (Originally Posted by babar) I've been checking out all the Rebreather company websites. Why don't any of them keep them updated. I keep wanting to see the new developments at steam machines, jetsam, and custom rebreathers, but the sites are always the same! shrug I confess we're not in the rebreather field but we do the same. You publish the NEW details when that is what you are selling not before. __________________ nigelh
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*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,325	Re: Damn company websites Quote: (Originally Posted by Gadget) dont forget these companies are relitivley small and probably dont have a IT office simply working on there web sites. They are out working on and manafacturing the things we all have "Rebreathers". You can always pick up the phone and call them i bet they will talk to you for hours about all there new ideas and plans. Excellent point! Another is that schedules for new products are hard to keep and even make in the first place. Probably for the same reason, too. So if you announce or publish prototype info/photos for example it becomes a two sided sword: Great that people get news and their intrest is aroused, but not so great if they get disapointed waiting for more or upset they have to wait. Aside from the more people contacting the manufacturer about info, schedules, prices etc, all of which increase the workload. __________________ Cheers Stefan "It is still a good day if you are on the green side of the grass! Su amigo Roberto!" Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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