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Old 10th February 2008, 22:10   #1 (permalink)
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Old 10th February 2008, 22:44   #2 (permalink)
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Re: I guess it had to happen!

Andy Aston ,,

£200 is cheap ,,, bet the boat cost £1500 for the week
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Old 11th February 2008, 07:39   #3 (permalink)
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Re: I guess it had to happen!

wander if lime and fills are extra?
I'd hazard a guess he gets a cut of the holiday or gets his space free.

I did think it was a bit odd when I saw it on fleebay
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Re: I guess it had to happen!

holiday cost is £950 which is the standard going rate

the ebay listing quotes lime and O2 as an extra £50 approx

I did think about doing it as its a cheap way to do MOD1 and have a holiday
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Re: I guess it had to happen!

I was out diving with Andy on Whirlwind last November and he is a Genuine bloke who has been diving an Inspiration a long time. Doing yor Mod 1 this way would be a good way of getting a lot of hours in quickley. Compared with the £600+ pounds that I spent inthe UK it doe make cheap holiday/ course.

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Re: I guess it had to happen!

I dont think thats very cheap, by the time you add on the "extras" the price tage will be about 1400 quid or so. I can do intensive six day courses in the red sea including course fee and registration with IANTD, flight and hotel and a six day dive pack which includes all cylinder hire, all o2 and air for about 4 or 5 hundred quid less than that.

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Old 13th February 2008, 10:18   #7 (permalink)
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Re: I guess it had to happen!

I for one did my course as an intense week in the RED sea at metioned by Dave and I was also on the trip with Andy mentioned earlier and we are not comparing apples with apples. One is a course which happens to be in the red sea, the ohter is a live aboard holiday on which you can complete the in water part of the MOD 1 course. It realy is up to the individual which way they go but I am sure either way beats the cold waters of the UK.

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Old 13th February 2008, 11:23   #8 (permalink)
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I for one did my course as an intense week in the RED sea at metioned by Dave and I was also on the trip with Andy mentioned earlier and we are not comparing apples with apples. One is a course which happens to be in the red sea, the ohter is a live aboard holiday on which you can complete the in water part of the MOD 1 course. It realy is up to the individual which way they go but I am sure either way beats the cold waters of the UK.
I guess it depends on the person and their diving preferance. I'd rather train in similar conditions to the majority of my diving (the UK/cold water) then if and when I could go and enjoy an expensive livaboard trip to its full rather than spend most of the dives worrying about doing bailout/SCR/O2 freeflows, buoyancy control and all the other first week niggles of CCR diving.

I did my training in Stoney Cove, how very boring... exactly- boring and predicatable (and cheap), the only variable was the Rebreather, so I could focus totally on learning to dive it without any distraction or wildlife, getting lost etc.

I can sympathise with instructors who don't want to do 3-4days diving in a quarry though, bores me when I'm training.

I suspect this also reflects on the Rebreather diver demographic, I suspect some divers don't even have to consider the cost of the unit + training and just get on and do it, for others it requires years of saving! Are RB divers in comparison to OC divers more well off generally?
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I guess it depends on the person and their diving preferance. I'd rather train in similar conditions to the majority of my diving (the UK/cold water) then if and when I could go and enjoy an expensive livaboard trip to its full rather than spend most of the dives worrying about doing bailout/SCR/O2 freeflows, buoyancy control and all the other first week niggles of CCR diving.
That's why I did mine in the sea in the UK. It was mainly about being able to focus on diving the unit in UK conditions.

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I did my training in Stoney Cove, how very boring... exactly- boring and predicatable (and cheap), the only variable was the Rebreather, so I could focus totally on learning to dive it without any distraction or wildlife, getting lost etc.
OTOH, doing a course in warm water gives you a lot more time on the unit than the typical UK course, which may well offset the 'advantage' of doing your course in conditions like those you dive in. We can review that when Mayte gets back from her course in Sharm with Dave :-)

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I suspect this also reflects on the Rebreather diver demographic, I suspect some divers don't even have to consider the cost of the unit + training and just get on and do it, for others it requires years of saving! Are RB divers in comparison to OC divers more well off generally?
Well, speaking from experience, I was a lot richer before I bought the unit

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To be honest its a bit of an urban myth that doing your course in the red sea is easier, its not. Its just as hard as UK conditions but in different ways. Minimum in-water time for the level one course is 8hrs (IANTD) Now thats not so easy in one week in winter where the only sites available to us Southerners at least are cold dark and boring with not much variation between one dive to the next.

Diving in the red sea in winter is still drysuit diving so you will wear almost the same kit as you will at home. In-water time is almost doubled not only because of the warmer water but the logistics of diving as well. Dives are varied in terms of currents, topography and descent/ascent methods. But most important is the instructor can "see" his students and they can see him/her. There is plenty of time to practice the skills repeatedly on every dive and still get to go DIVING! cos at the end of the day its why we all do it.

In my opinion skills that are completely alien to the new rebreather diver are much easier to understand and practice when we can see whats going on, buoyancy control is much more important right from the off cos there is no mud bottom to sit on, apart from the first couple of dives all skills and drills are done on the fly as it were. And to top all of that the students have the instructor "captive" for a week so they can wring every bit of information out of his (my) Small brain )

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