Modifications to increase maximum depth

Dave Sutton

Dives like that are never going to be safe. They are exploratory. They can be done... just not reliably for large sample numbers.

Could a one-off dive be done without an accident? Probably: By the right guy on the right rig.

Are you the guy? Probably not (yet) at your level of current experience.

Could you pull it off now? Maybe... if you were *really* lucky and *nothing* went wrong.

Is the Inspiration the right rig? No way... never *ever*.

Could it be pulled off on one? Maybe.... again, if *nothing* went wrong.

Could it be done with a higher degree of confidence with a Mark-15, CIS, or 'Boris? *Far* more likely.

Nothing is black and white... all shades of grey. Just try to make it "light grey", OK?


Anything else to add anyone?


Dave

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Brainx3

Hi,


Well, the whole thread was about modifying the inspiration in a way that can maximize its max rated depth. I don't cross my diving limits or try to do something which I don't understand, but knowledge and experience are coming with time as I work on that everyday (theoratically and practically). Although preparing the unit in advance to know what's missing has no problem, but I think it's more of knowing whether it CAN achieve such depths without any electronics failures. The dive will be organized, the team will be ready, all the logistics will be handled, safety and emergency procedures will be followed, but my consideration is whether the dive can be done with the Inspiration or not, in any case as I mentioned before the alternative will be going for a ROV.

I, once again thank everyone for their suggestions, and would appreciate additional tips.

Another thread is discussing the buzzer problem by HMS.


Best Regards. Wael

Doorduijn, Niels

Wael,

I presume that you are saying that in 2008, you wish to dive to 200 meters, after having dived rebreathers for about 2 years.

One message does not seem to get accros to you: a handfull of dives made on an Inspo to the depths to which you seem to aspire does not proof that such dives can be made safely on an inspo. It only proofs that the divers before you were not killed. Dive this deep, and you are in essence your own test pilot, modifications or not, and will be taking enormous risks. Remember, of the three inspo's which started on the 200+ dive in Safage, two (or was it all three?) did not make it through the dive without the need to replace the unit.

To me, a safe dive is one whether the risks can be anticipated and controlled. Dives like these fall outside this category.

I do hope you have no family or friends to mourn you.

Rgs,
Niels Doorduijn

chunter

I have something to add. Dave...did you change your avatar? I liked it better when you had a helmet on.

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Brainx3

Hi,

Well, after I'm done with the Trimix course I do intend to dive deep as much as possible especially to wrecks which I couldn't see before (Between 100 to 140 meters). Once again, if 200 meters cannot be achieved with the inspiration then I would use a ROV instead.

Best Regards. Wael

decoweenie

Charlie,

You are all alone dude, I don't think he is nuts...

I think he is more likely a "talker" as many others seen before him.

Remember the last guy who came here wanting to buy/learn to dive a Dolphin so he could modify it to dive the Doria the following year ? Next thing I saw was he turned up a few months later at a DIR forum bashing Rebreather, and vowed to drink kool-aid forever.

Most people have bigger dreams than their dedication and ability could take them on one thing or another. Yours is probably something else other than diving...

IMHO, the best thing is to leave those people to chase their dreams until they realize that their dreams are beyond their reach - as long as they don't hurt someone in the process - or reached them.

Of course, you could make fun of them all along the process... :-)

Dave Sutton

Funny: Mya said the same thing.....


The questions are good ones here, guys: Teach guys to survive, not to belittle them and drive them away. Everyone was a beginner once.


Dave

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chunter

That's what I suspected also, but on the off-chance that he is serious, I wanted to say something.

I also took the vow to drink cool-aid forever. My pee is now coming out purple.

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Brainx3

Hi,


Well, trying is actually what got us into what we know and have today. If you want to laugh at someone for trying to expand his/her limits then probably you can start by reading about some geniuses in the history books. That's why some people become creators and others become just followers. For me personally in life, there's no definition for the word "Impossible". It's just the matter of knowing the right way and using the right tools. If others didn't risk their lives and die while diving then we would all be snorkling by now while wondering about how mysterious world it is deep under.

Thanks again for your participation Deco.


Best Regards. Wael

Brainx3

Hi,

By the way Dave, can you tell how did your experience as a pilot gave you more befinits to understand diving in general? Any relation?

Best Regards. Wael