Rebreather database for Rebreather World?

depth · 23rd November 2007, 18:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

Ratings are very difficult to collect, I might like my KISS and therefore I'll give it 5 outta 5 for everything, Megs are Evil (allegdedly) so all I need to do is put one on my list (which is unchecked) and give it 0 for everything...(IMVHO)

Hi Ben

I am aware of this problem. It is hard to stop if someone wants to alter the ratings, but it works on other websites I seen. People tend not to bother doing this if it's a hassle (that's why you must have it on your rebreatherlist to rate).
Another way to avoid this is to list which usernames that has rated the Rebreather. This could keep some users from giving incorrect information.

/Christian

depth · 23rd November 2007, 18:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by Buccaneer)

Why limit this to rebreathers? I would like to see datasheets, reviews, impressions, etc. regarding lots of different rebreather oriented hardware and software.

I agree with you 100% but i think that the solution i proposed is meant for rebreathers to start with. If you add the rest of the rebreather hardware avaliable, I think the database programmer will give up before he/she get started.

The other task seems reachable IMO.

/Christian

***caveseeker7*** · 23rd November 2007, 19:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaAl)

Kind of like wikipedia for rebreathers!! That would be most helpful. Al

We tried that early last year: SCUPEDIA IS LIVE!
Not too many takers yet, only 150odd entries last time I checked.

Also tried to get data from manufacturers, pita they're to deal with.
Send a bunch of mails, almost no replies. Was meant for a Rebreather comparison
sheet, just comparing specs, features, options etc, side by side. Was hoping
to get some additional data, like weight and size without tanks/disassembled.
Nothing proprietary, still, bugger all from that lot.

onetime · 24th November 2007, 04:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Was meant for a Rebreather comparison
sheet, just comparing specs, features, options etc, side by side. Was hoping
to get some additional data, like weight and size without tanks/disassembled.
Nothing proprietary, still, bugger all from that lot.

Gotta say the best method to accomplish this is getting a few people dedicated to the pursuit to gather the necessary info (start with spec sheets supplied by the manufacturer and then go out to users) and then compile it. There will be some holes but people will chime in once they can see the comparison sheets.

Updating will be a bit more hassle as you'll have to answer two questions rather than one:

1. What new options are there?
2. Which old options need to be deleted or modified?

***caveseeker7*** · 24th November 2007, 09:06

Well, I was that designated and dedicated volunteer once, enough for me.
If anyone wants to give it a try I'm all for it. The idea still bears merit,
more so when implemented in a flexible data base.

***schford*** · 24th November 2007, 09:15

Maybe if we did a wiki tied in to the forum system here on Rebreather World just about RBs and accessories it would be easier?

Though it would have to be factual only otherwise it would be a nightmare with different opinions etc - which is great for the forums but the wiki I think we would need to stick to the facts.

depth · 24th November 2007, 09:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Well, I was that designated and dedicated volunteer once, enough for me.
If anyone wants to give it a try I'm all for it. The idea still bears merit,
more so when implemented in a flexible data base.

I will volunteer!

But I guess it is all up to the Rebreather World staff if they want such a database in the forum?

/Christian

Abbo · 24th November 2007, 10:01

Once a week, somebody writes in to ask for advice on which rebreather to buy. The rebreather community ought to get better and better at answering those questions over time, but it doesn't: it gets worse. Nobody wants to get involved in a banal argument about which is the best rebreather. It's particularly odd that there is not a single article in the library helping people to make this difficult choice. I wish there was one, written by somebody with experience with a number of different units. Anyone?

depth · 24th November 2007, 10:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by Abbo)

Once a week, somebody writes in to ask for advice on which rebreather to buy. The rebreather community ought to get better and better at answering those questions over time, but it doesn't: it gets worse. Nobody wants to get involved in a banal argument about which is the best rebreather. It's particularly odd that there is not a single article in the library helping people to make this difficult choice. I wish there was one, written by somebody with experience with a number of different units. Anyone?

A database would be a step in the right direction. You could add the articles already written on the different units!

/Christian

silentscuba · 24th November 2007, 13:15

Here is a link to a rebreather chart that Jo_C did awhile back. It needs some updating but has alot of good info in it.

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/new-r...l?highlight=jo

23rd November 2007, 18:34	#11 (permalink)
depth Christian Rasmussen Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 190	Re: Rebreather database for Rebreather World? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) Ratings are very difficult to collect, I might like my KISS and therefore I'll give it 5 outta 5 for everything, Megs are Evil (allegdedly) so all I need to do is put one on my list (which is unchecked) and give it 0 for everything...(IMVHO) Hi Ben I am aware of this problem. It is hard to stop if someone wants to alter the ratings, but it works on other websites I seen. People tend not to bother doing this if it's a hassle (that's why you must have it on your rebreatherlist to rate). Another way to avoid this is to list which usernames that has rated the Rebreather. This could keep some users from giving incorrect information. /Christian __________________ I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not.............
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23rd November 2007, 18:44	#12 (permalink)
depth Christian Rasmussen Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 190	Re: Rebreather database for Rebreather World? Quote: (Originally Posted by Buccaneer) Why limit this to rebreathers? I would like to see datasheets, reviews, impressions, etc. regarding lots of different rebreather oriented hardware and software. I agree with you 100% but i think that the solution i proposed is meant for rebreathers to start with. If you add the rest of the rebreather hardware avaliable, I think the database programmer will give up before he/she get started. The other task seems reachable IMO. /Christian __________________ I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not.............
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23rd November 2007, 19:36	#13 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,498	Re: Rebreather database for Rebreather World? Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaAl) Kind of like wikipedia for rebreathers!! That would be most helpful. Al We tried that early last year: SCUPEDIA IS LIVE! Not too many takers yet, only 150odd entries last time I checked. Also tried to get data from manufacturers, pita they're to deal with. Send a bunch of mails, almost no replies. Was meant for a Rebreather comparison sheet, just comparing specs, features, options etc, side by side. Was hoping to get some additional data, like weight and size without tanks/disassembled. Nothing proprietary, still, bugger all from that lot. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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24th November 2007, 04:28	#14 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 696	Re: Rebreather database for Rebreather World? Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Was meant for a Rebreather comparison sheet, just comparing specs, features, options etc, side by side. Was hoping to get some additional data, like weight and size without tanks/disassembled. Nothing proprietary, still, bugger all from that lot. Gotta say the best method to accomplish this is getting a few people dedicated to the pursuit to gather the necessary info (start with spec sheets supplied by the manufacturer and then go out to users) and then compile it. There will be some holes but people will chime in once they can see the comparison sheets. Updating will be a bit more hassle as you'll have to answer two questions rather than one: 1. What new options are there? 2. Which old options need to be deleted or modified?
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24th November 2007, 09:06	#15 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,498	Re: Rebreather database for Rebreather World? Well, I was that designated and dedicated volunteer once, enough for me. If anyone wants to give it a try I'm all for it. The idea still bears merit, more so when implemented in a flexible data base. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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24th November 2007, 09:15	#16 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,687	Re: Rebreather database for Rebreather World? Maybe if we did a wiki tied in to the forum system here on Rebreather World just about RBs and accessories it would be easier? Though it would have to be factual only otherwise it would be a nightmare with different opinions etc - which is great for the forums but the wiki I think we would need to stick to the facts. __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of Rebreather World is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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24th November 2007, 09:16	#17 (permalink)
depth Christian Rasmussen Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 190	Re: Rebreather database for Rebreather World? Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Well, I was that designated and dedicated volunteer once, enough for me. If anyone wants to give it a try I'm all for it. The idea still bears merit, more so when implemented in a flexible data base. I will volunteer! But I guess it is all up to the Rebreather World staff if they want such a database in the forum? /Christian __________________ I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not.............
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24th November 2007, 10:01	#18 (permalink)
Abbo Nicholas Smith Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokyo Posts: 449	Re: Rebreather database for Rebreather World? Once a week, somebody writes in to ask for advice on which rebreather to buy. The rebreather community ought to get better and better at answering those questions over time, but it doesn't: it gets worse. Nobody wants to get involved in a banal argument about which is the best rebreather. It's particularly odd that there is not a single article in the library helping people to make this difficult choice. I wish there was one, written by somebody with experience with a number of different units. Anyone?
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24th November 2007, 10:35	#19 (permalink)
depth Christian Rasmussen Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 190	Re: Rebreather database for Rebreather World? Quote: (Originally Posted by Abbo) Once a week, somebody writes in to ask for advice on which rebreather to buy. The rebreather community ought to get better and better at answering those questions over time, but it doesn't: it gets worse. Nobody wants to get involved in a banal argument about which is the best rebreather. It's particularly odd that there is not a single article in the library helping people to make this difficult choice. I wish there was one, written by somebody with experience with a number of different units. Anyone? A database would be a step in the right direction. You could add the articles already written on the different units! /Christian __________________ I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not.............
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24th November 2007, 13:15	#20 (permalink)
silentscuba rEvo CCR Driver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA USA Posts: 590	Re: Rebreather database for Rebreather World? Here is a link to a rebreather chart that Jo_C did awhile back. It needs some updating but has alot of good info in it. http://www.rebreatherworld.com/new-r...l?highlight=jo __________________ Curt McNamee rEvo CCR Diver KISS CCR Diver www.silentscuba.com Last edited by silentscuba : 24th November 2007 at 13:20.
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