CCR good points

zepp

After reading through many threads over the last few days I have noticed that there seems to be a high proportion of negative points about rebreathers in general.
I understand that we all want to know about safety issues and how members thoughts may be able to prevent some incidents BUT what has happened to posts about divers having positive experiences with their hobby.
I know that if I had logged on as a potential CCR diver I would have been scared sh#tess after reading about bad instructors and training, Rebreather manufacturers that make bad equipment, and members battleing out who is the bigger, better and more knowledgable diver. Everyone has their own opinion, I have mine but that doesnt mean that I think anyone else with a different opinion is wrong. I have changed my views on many things after reading posts from other divers, mostly from more experienced but also from those with less experience than myself (if that can be possible )
When members at my dive club speak about Rebreather's, they think they are only there for deep, long dives that involve taking risks far above that of a 'sport' dive.
Well I have to say I have just come back from the Red Sea diving with my KISS. I did eight in total, none of which even went close to deco dives, all around the hour mark and the deepest of 40mtrs. Three dives were with a PADI jnr Open water diver, max 18mtrs. I enjoyed diving in the warm, clear waters without a clumbersome drysuit, 2x large bail-out cylinders, large torches, reels etc etc....Made it all worthwhile

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divelermentov

well said,

obviously to talk about safety issues, equipment design etc is important, but I agree that most people tend to focus on the dark side only.

and no-one talks anymore about how great it is to dive bubble free, warm gas, ample of gas, and just the fantastic feeling when you just emptied your bank-account again to buy some new toys.

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rhelsley

I personally think it's healthy and appropriate to have open dialogue regarding rebreather malfunctions & design, especially having this dialogue available to prospective Rebreather users.

All of us who currently use rebreathers know the benefits, but we want to be careful that we don't sugar-coat the risk involved with their use by discussing the benefits disproportionately to the realities.

Just my thoughts...


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seattle, usa

lizardland

I agree completely. Rebreathers carry an inherent greater risk than OC. Sure they can be used safely but the risk is still there, still real and anyone involved in rebreather diving (or considering it) needs to inform themselves of those risks.

As it says on the back of the KISS, a rebreather can kill you without warning, OC is nowhere near that league. Rebreathers aren't for everyone. Rebreather World might seem a bit elitist sometimes but the same problems that will kill you at 90m will also kill you at 19m. Rebreathers, if anything, are a great leveller in diving i.e. everyone is exposed to the same dangers no matter how "epic" or "weenie" their dive is.

Everyone needs a personal risk analysis for themselves and their Rebreather and needs to be happy with that before getting in the water on one.

Cheers,

Stuart

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Mdemon

Hey, they work sometimes!!!!

When they do, they're great. I love mine to bits. It just works, and I just keep making sure that it does.

You can strap it on and do whatever you feel like doing. Want to stay longer? No problem. You'll have enough gas.

You're no longer a slave to your SPG. Your new master is your deco computer, and whatever it is which gives you your PO2.

Who could ask for more?

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It's as easy as abc;

a) "Carry adequate bailout"

b) "If in doubt, bail out"

c) "Always know your PO2"

If you find that hard, stick to crochet.

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Dave Crampton

I too love my New (to me) CCR. I've just run up >26 hours and I'm now getting comforable with it and I have no regrets whatsoever about the 'upgrade'

I have read about the dangers thought I don't get bogged down with them, and I feel the more I know about the subject the safer I can be, being informed about them.

I'm looking forward to getting more experience and enjoying my CCR even more.

Dave C

UWSojourner

Even most of the time thankfully.

Having spent a week last year diving OC, that was the biggest sensation I had --- a slave to the SPG.

For me it doesn't get much better than a quiet, leisurely, bubbleless wall dive.

Dsix36

Just this weekend I did a couple of nice and easy 40 foot reef dives. They were drift dives and I followed an instructor with his students. The issue of air never came up (hell, I never even checked my SPG's). I used the time to practice some of my training drills.

I found the sharks that they missed

The water was a little rough and I thought "they" looked kinda funny trying to change out their tanks while the boat was rockin. I just walked to the back of the boat and jumped in again. I vaguely remember laughing to myself on my descent

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Depth-junkie

Yep, people seem to forget just how good CCR's are at keeping you alive more so the deeper we go.

I have the attitude of if i look after my box will look after me. Yes there are failure points that know one can predict happening (if & when) but i can cover these to my best of knowledge be that servicing wise or redundancy. My job is to keep that box ticking along above and below water and it will take care of me.

i love my unit also, it allows me to do dives i could not do on OC or if i could they would be a lot harder work, above and below water.

And yes there is nothing better than even a nice shallow dive in pure bubbleless silence, i deffo feel more at one with the ocean on CCR than i ever did on OC, magic

There are some down sides to CCR over OC but the plus points deffo out way them IMHO.



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rhelsley

Ahhhhhhh, the greatest thing about rebreather diving is not having to go to the dive shop. Can't remember the last time I had to visit my local dive "professional" for anything. A few bottles of O2 & He in the garage, a few buckets o' sorb & I'm good for months.


russell helsley
seattle, usa