Think piece: Nitrox vs. Rebreather dive planning

PCDiver · 17th October 2007, 15:15

As a side note:
Whenever I dive with OC guys I switch my VR (backup to my Vision) to OC and the gas that the OC diver is using.

We had a couple of surprises where the OCers ended up with over 25 minutes of deco and the CCRs had nothing.

JS1scuba · 17th October 2007, 22:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by warjarrett)

A Nitrox diver chooses 32% O2 to dive at 100 ft (30m). His buddy, a rebreather diver, chooses a set point of 1.3 for the same dive. How will the two divers' plans differ, and will there be a difference in their time limits? Will their recommended surface interval and 2nd dive time (to the same depth) differ?

This is pretty basic stuff. You should be able to do this on a set of tables.

40 min bottom time -- nitrox diver has 10 min of stop time CCR guy has none.

OC guy should change to EAN 36 and drop his time.

This is all stuff you should have had in BOTH your Advanced Nitrox Course AND your basic CCR Course.

The real question is will the OC guy have enough gas with him for all the dives they will do that day ?

Cheers

Drmike · 18th October 2007, 01:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by PCDiver)

As a side note:
Whenever I dive with OC guys I switch my VR (backup to my Vision) to OC and the gas that the OC diver is using.

We had a couple of surprises where the OCers ended up with over 25 minutes of deco and the CCRs had nothing.

whenevber i dive with OC guys I get out the water before them and drink all the beer and chomp all the food. They get to enjoy the 'chicken bone' rain coming down...I think it helps them enjoy the long hangs more knowing Im up there in the sun eating all the hot food drinking all the beer

Occasionally ill even treat them to a sorb change shower if Im feeling generous

Another fun ganme is to go diver fishing. What you need is a reel a nice cold can of beer and a lead weight - dangle just in front of decoing divers, raising up and down slowly infront of them.

JCdesign97 · 18th October 2007, 02:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

whenevber i dive with OC guys I get out the water before them and drink all the beer and chomp all the food. They get to enjoy the 'chicken bone' rain coming down...I think it helps them enjoy the long hangs more knowing Im up there in the sun eating all the hot food drinking all the beer

Occasionally ill even treat them to a sorb change shower if Im feeling generous

Another fun ganme is to go diver fishing. What you need is a reel a nice cold can of beer and a lead weight - dangle just in front of decoing divers, raising up and down slowly infront of them.

Think piece Mike: If one of the decoing OC divers goes for the bait, when he hits the surface and cracks the can which fizzes first and/or more, the diver or the beer?

Drmike · 18th October 2007, 02:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by JCdesign97)

Think piece Mike: If one of the decoing OC divers goes for the bait, when he hits the surface and cracks the can which fizzes first and/or more, the diver or the beer?

the diver - cos I use empty cans filled with water

(Wouldnt waste good beer on OC divers

)

funny post on tds today - heres what those guys did to their OC buddies staged O2 tank

Now imagine pics of someone using that modified moutbite

LOL

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 18th October 2007, 04:55

PCDiver · 18th October 2007, 05:43

Are you sure this is for diving and not for

?

bourskov · 18th October 2007, 05:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

whenevber i dive with OC guys I get out the water before them and drink all the beer and chomp all the food. They get to enjoy the 'chicken bone' rain coming down...I think it helps them enjoy the long hangs more knowing Im up there in the sun eating all the hot food drinking all the beer

Occasionally ill even treat them to a sorb change shower if Im feeling generous

Another fun ganme is to go diver fishing. What you need is a reel a nice cold can of beer and a lead weight - dangle just in front of decoing divers, raising up and down slowly infront of them.

I almost feel sorry for your OC-buddies... Almost...

Cheers

jhaaja · 18th October 2007, 05:59

Happened in happy Finland to a friend of mine. I think he is going to buy a breather soon

Or actually his second one.

Suck it BABY!

JH

teomannaskali · 18th October 2007, 07:01

Someone has pimped up those tanks too

Saisi ko lisaa kuvia noista?

Teoman

17th October 2007, 15:15	#21 (permalink)
PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 974	Re: Think piece: Nitrox vs. Rebreather dive planning As a side note: Whenever I dive with OC guys I switch my VR (backup to my Vision) to OC and the gas that the OC diver is using. We had a couple of surprises where the OCers ended up with over 25 minutes of deco and the CCRs had nothing.
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17th October 2007, 22:58	#22 (permalink)
JS1scuba RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ - USA Posts: 518	Re: Think piece: Nitrox vs. Rebreather dive planning Quote: (Originally Posted by warjarrett) A Nitrox diver chooses 32% O2 to dive at 100 ft (30m). His buddy, a rebreather diver, chooses a set point of 1.3 for the same dive. How will the two divers' plans differ, and will there be a difference in their time limits? Will their recommended surface interval and 2nd dive time (to the same depth) differ? This is pretty basic stuff. You should be able to do this on a set of tables. 40 min bottom time -- nitrox diver has 10 min of stop time CCR guy has none. OC guy should change to EAN 36 and drop his time. This is all stuff you should have had in BOTH your Advanced Nitrox Course AND your basic CCR Course. The real question is will the OC guy have enough gas with him for all the dives they will do that day ? Cheers __________________ Joel Silverstein, VP COO Tech Diving Limited a Division of Scuba Training and Technology Inc. http://www.nautilusdiveplanner.com http://www.nobubblediving.com
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18th October 2007, 01:42	#23 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,325	Re: Think piece: Nitrox vs. Rebreather dive planning Quote: (Originally Posted by PCDiver) As a side note: Whenever I dive with OC guys I switch my VR (backup to my Vision) to OC and the gas that the OC diver is using. We had a couple of surprises where the OCers ended up with over 25 minutes of deco and the CCRs had nothing. whenevber i dive with OC guys I get out the water before them and drink all the beer and chomp all the food. They get to enjoy the 'chicken bone' rain coming down...I think it helps them enjoy the long hangs more knowing Im up there in the sun eating all the hot food drinking all the beer Occasionally ill even treat them to a sorb change shower if Im feeling generous Another fun ganme is to go diver fishing. What you need is a reel a nice cold can of beer and a lead weight - dangle just in front of decoing divers, raising up and down slowly infront of them. __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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18th October 2007, 02:00	#24 (permalink)
JCdesign97 My unit can beat up yours Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: PA, USA Posts: 385	Re: Think piece: Nitrox vs. Rebreather dive planning Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) whenevber i dive with OC guys I get out the water before them and drink all the beer and chomp all the food. They get to enjoy the 'chicken bone' rain coming down...I think it helps them enjoy the long hangs more knowing Im up there in the sun eating all the hot food drinking all the beer Occasionally ill even treat them to a sorb change shower if Im feeling generous Another fun ganme is to go diver fishing. What you need is a reel a nice cold can of beer and a lead weight - dangle just in front of decoing divers, raising up and down slowly infront of them. Think piece Mike: If one of the decoing OC divers goes for the bait, when he hits the surface and cracks the can which fizzes first and/or more, the diver or the beer? __________________ Cheers, John Cogan
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18th October 2007, 04:55	#26 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,134	Re: Think piece: Nitrox vs. Rebreather dive planning __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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18th October 2007, 05:43	#27 (permalink)
PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 974	Re: Think piece: Nitrox vs. Rebreather dive planning Are you sure this is for diving and not for ?
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18th October 2007, 05:54	#28 (permalink)
bourskov New Member Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 92	Re: Think piece: Nitrox vs. Rebreather dive planning Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) whenevber i dive with OC guys I get out the water before them and drink all the beer and chomp all the food. They get to enjoy the 'chicken bone' rain coming down...I think it helps them enjoy the long hangs more knowing Im up there in the sun eating all the hot food drinking all the beer Occasionally ill even treat them to a sorb change shower if Im feeling generous Another fun ganme is to go diver fishing. What you need is a reel a nice cold can of beer and a lead weight - dangle just in front of decoing divers, raising up and down slowly infront of them. I almost feel sorry for your OC-buddies... Almost... Cheers
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18th October 2007, 05:59	#29 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 884	Re: Think piece: Nitrox vs. Rebreather dive planning Happened in happy Finland to a friend of mine. I think he is going to buy a breather soon Or actually his second one. Suck it BABY! JH
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18th October 2007, 07:01	#30 (permalink)
teomannaskali Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Istanbul TR Posts: 385	Re: Think piece: Nitrox vs. Rebreather dive planning Someone has pimped up those tanks too Saisi ko lisaa kuvia noista? Teoman
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