Post your f_cked up Rebreather pics here :D

Drmike · 2nd October 2007, 18:20

theres nothing wrong with the material - the fault is with the user not following their training

OK OK IM ONLY JOKING

Lets not start that again

***jradomski*** · 2nd October 2007, 19:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

Sooooo i take it you cant park a truck on that bit then

Is it me or should something your very likley to drop (like the scrubber for example) be a tad less brittle?

I noticed this too on the Vision when one of the lads on the boat knocked over the scrubber housing and bent the pins that hold the head on. Mmmmmm great design I thaught.

ATB

Mark

The choice of an acrylic material has the benefit of being see through so that you can examine the scrubber and acrylic is not a good conductor of heat, but the down side is that acrylic had very little impact resistance..

Dave O · 2nd October 2007, 19:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski)

The choice of an acrylic material has the benefit of being see through so that you can examine the scrubber and acrylic is not a good cnductor of head, but the down side is that acrylic had very little impact resistance..

Why not Lucite? Isn't it stronger?

Mark Chase · 2nd October 2007, 20:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave O)

Why not Lucite? Isn't it stronger?

Or polycarb

ATB

Mark

***jradomski*** · 3rd October 2007, 01:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

Or polycarb

ATB

Mark

polycarb is damaged by sodium hydroxide and calcium hydroxide.

***jradomski*** · 3rd October 2007, 01:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave O)

Why not Lucite? Isn't it stronger?

Lucite is just a trade name for acrylic.. just like Plexigass is also a trade name for the same product..

cool_hardware52 · 3rd October 2007, 02:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski)

Lucite is just a trade name for acrylic.. just like Plexigass is also a trade name for the same product..

There are impact modified grades of acrylic, although I don't know of anybody extruding tubing using them.

The modifiers might effect clarity, and that would be a stopper for most tube / pipe producers.

The impact modified acrylics are pretty tough, at least sheet and molding grades I've played with.

Tobin

***jradomski*** · 3rd October 2007, 03:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52)

There are impact modified grades of acrylic, although I don't know of anybody extruding tubing using them.

The modifiers might effect clarity, and that would be a stopper for most tube / pipe producers.

The impact modified acrylics are pretty tough, at least sheet and molding grades I've played with.

Tobin

Sheets are pretty common but I have never seen impact resistent tubes..

extruded acrylic is a bit more impact resistant than cast, but the larger diameters are usually cast..

dave burke · 3rd October 2007, 03:06

I noticed this too on the Vision when one of the lads on the boat knocked over the scrubber housing and bent the pins that hold the head on. Mmmmmm great design I thaught.

ATB

Mark[/quote]

with the help of mark and nigel
the pin was straighten back up, and has not been a problem since it was restraighten ( ie has not let water into scrubber)
but i dont know way these pin's are not user replaceable. i was told by one other lad on trip that if it could not be straighten, i would have to replace the whole scrubber housing, a bit o.t.t for such a small part.
in honesty i have not asked if they are replaceable,
i will phone them, and asked if they are user replaceable, and will see what they say
safe diving
dave

Mike · 3rd October 2007, 03:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski)

The choice of an acrylic material has the benefit of being see through so that you can examine the scrubber and acrylic is not a good conductor of heat, but the down side is that acrylic had very little impact resistance..

Just use whatever material SMI use for their scrubber buckets. Clear, and mine survived being kicked across the yard when it was HUD disco time.

Mike

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Drmike RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,379	Re: Post your f_cked up Rebreather pics here :D theres nothing wrong with the material - the fault is with the user not following their training OK OK IM ONLY JOKING Lets not start that again __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment Last edited by Drmike : 2nd October 2007 at 18:22.
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*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,133	Re: Post your f_cked up Rebreather pics here :D Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) Sooooo i take it you cant park a truck on that bit then Is it me or should something your very likley to drop (like the scrubber for example) be a tad less brittle? I noticed this too on the Vision when one of the lads on the boat knocked over the scrubber housing and bent the pins that hold the head on. Mmmmmm great design I thaught. ATB Mark The choice of an acrylic material has the benefit of being see through so that you can examine the scrubber and acrylic is not a good conductor of heat, but the down side is that acrylic had very little impact resistance.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated. Last edited by jradomski : 3rd October 2007 at 00:45.
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Dave O RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Underwater (NJ) Posts: 144	Re: Post your f_cked up Rebreather pics here :D Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) The choice of an acrylic material has the benefit of being see through so that you can examine the scrubber and acrylic is not a good cnductor of head, but the down side is that acrylic had very little impact resistance.. Why not Lucite? Isn't it stronger? __________________ <dave Sutton>I can do whatever I please ... that's Gods Word spoken thru my mouth.</dave Sutton> <decodiver> Only people who bat for the wrong team wash their undersuits......... I wanna smell piss when I go diving, not ferkin' fabric softener! </decodiver> My Blog
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Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,910	Re: Post your f_cked up Rebreather pics here :D Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave O) Why not Lucite? Isn't it stronger? Or polycarb ATB Mark __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,133	Re: Post your f_cked up Rebreather pics here :D Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) Or polycarb ATB Mark polycarb is damaged by sodium hydroxide and calcium hydroxide. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated. Last edited by jradomski : 3rd October 2007 at 13:20.
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cool_hardware52 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal USA Posts: 413	Re: Post your f_cked up Rebreather pics here :D Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) Lucite is just a trade name for acrylic.. just like Plexigass is also a trade name for the same product.. There are impact modified grades of acrylic, although I don't know of anybody extruding tubing using them. The modifiers might effect clarity, and that would be a stopper for most tube / pipe producers. The impact modified acrylics are pretty tough, at least sheet and molding grades I've played with. Tobin __________________ www.deepseasupply.com
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*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,133	Re: Post your f_cked up Rebreather pics here :D Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52) There are impact modified grades of acrylic, although I don't know of anybody extruding tubing using them. The modifiers might effect clarity, and that would be a stopper for most tube / pipe producers. The impact modified acrylics are pretty tough, at least sheet and molding grades I've played with. Tobin Sheets are pretty common but I have never seen impact resistent tubes.. extruded acrylic is a bit more impact resistant than cast, but the larger diameters are usually cast.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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dave burke RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kent Posts: 151	Re: Post your f_cked up Rebreather pics here :D I noticed this too on the Vision when one of the lads on the boat knocked over the scrubber housing and bent the pins that hold the head on. Mmmmmm great design I thaught. ATB Mark[/quote] with the help of mark and nigel the pin was straighten back up, and has not been a problem since it was restraighten ( ie has not let water into scrubber) but i dont know way these pin's are not user replaceable. i was told by one other lad on trip that if it could not be straighten, i would have to replace the whole scrubber housing, a bit o.t.t for such a small part. in honesty i have not asked if they are replaceable, i will phone them, and asked if they are user replaceable, and will see what they say safe diving dave
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Mike Prism 'prentice Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 336	Re: Post your f_cked up Rebreather pics here :D Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) The choice of an acrylic material has the benefit of being see through so that you can examine the scrubber and acrylic is not a good conductor of heat, but the down side is that acrylic had very little impact resistance.. Just use whatever material SMI use for their scrubber buckets. Clear, and mine survived being kicked across the yard when it was HUD disco time. Mike __________________ Open ....... Closed Mind ........ Loop
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