Suit inflation bottle positioning

PSquared · 7th August 2007, 15:08

Rather than side track the thread on where to hang your slugs, I thought I'd start a new one re where suit inflation comes from.

I run a dedicated 2l hanging off my backplate (right) bearing in mind I don't dive in the sea and carry only one SMB (if at all). This works on both the Inspo and the Meg (but I need to raise the bottle slightly on the Meg). Because of restriction issues in my favorite cave system, I went this route rather than what seems to be the standard here - to mount the bottle on the side of the Inspo box.

Because there is often He in my dil cylinder, I'd rather not run off that. I see the narked@90 frame has a spot onder the stack for a suit inflation bottle but I still have GI3s rantings about butt mounted strokery in my brain

Always keen to hear other ideas and try what others have found to work (including O2 suit inflaltion which I don't like the sound of)

P2

PS for the record my slugs re 2 x 80s left with a third nose clipped if required and a 7l O2 on the right if it is going along for the swim rather than being staged.

gathan · 7th August 2007, 15:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by PSquared)

I see the narked@90 frame has a spot onder the stack for a suit inflation bottle but I still have GI3s rantings about butt mounted strokery in my brain

You might want to try to clean this up through therapy or other means, so that you may re-visit the idea

Andre

***Decodiver*** · 7th August 2007, 15:35

I run my drysuit from my rich bailout (No He) and my wing from my lean bailout (He).

No need for an extra cylinder then, also I just use the CCR to rebreathe.

You would be flabbergasted at how long your diluent lasts when you are not using it for inflation.

This also means both bailout cylinders are on, and ready to go, the only proviso is that I have a flow stop, and an OPV, on my rich mix reg.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

JS1scuba · 7th August 2007, 15:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by PSquared)

Because there is often He in my dil cylinder, I'd rather not run off that. I see the narked@90 frame has a spot onder the stack for a suit inflation bottle but I still have GI3s rantings about butt mounted strokery in my brain

Simple fact is that you are a STROKE by not using an RB80 ... press on with life and you won't have these issues again.

Bottles .... I run a 6cuft off the divers left side of the back plate. I can pull 2 dives without worrying about it off of this for 75 m and shallower. I also have a 13 cuft bottle (2l) that i use in same spot if I dont want to carry extra 6s with me on a weekend. My bail/out DIL has a suit inflator hose on it so should i need it I can get it for either the suit or the wing.

The naked at 90 stand does have a place for a small bottle on the bottom -- just make sure you are not ass heavy to begin with before putting it there. Make sure you have an OPV on the reg and make sure you turned it on before getting in the water -- it's hard to reach unless you have arms of an ape. Run that hose up under the arm and into the inflator valve.

Cheers

PSquared · 7th August 2007, 15:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by gathan)

You might want to try to clean this up through therapy or other means, so that you may re-visit the idea

Andre

You were clearly never flamed by GI3 on the old Aquanaut lists..... scarred for life, still wake up screaming notwithstanding the therapy ("with good management you'll be crazy for a long time my boy")

Actually I am considering it for my Meg.

PSquared · 7th August 2007, 15:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

I run my drysuit from my rich bailout (No He) and my wing from my lean bailout (He).

No need for an extra cylinder then, also I just use the CCR to rebreathe.

Dave Cooper.

Good call, problem is my richest baleout other than the pure O2 is a 50/20 - cold and expensive suit inflation!

Methinks "normal" dives shallower than say 40m with a Ntx baleout this is an elegant solution requiring one less cylinder.

UKSteve · 7th August 2007, 16:03

Hi

I use a 1 litre aluminium bottle mounted on left side of back plate using the Agir-Brokk strap system Underwater Explorers. Dead easy to install and use.

Sits in snug between me and the wing .. out of the way of any other kit and above the line to my dil cylinder knob.

1 litre bottle lasts 2 normal (< 40m) dives or a 70m dive easily.

At moment I only use suit inflation for bouyancy adjustments and as Dave says, the dil lasts for ever!

Steve

**jkromelow** · 7th August 2007, 16:37

I was using a 6 cu ft bottle attached to the left side of my backplate with my Meg. I switched to a 14 cu ft bottle on the narked@90 stand. I use this bottle for both my drysuit and my BC. I attached an extra dry suit hose to my bail out (a 40 cu ft bottle) just in case I have a failure, then at least I will have redundancy. I use my dil only for dil. This set up is working perfectly for me. In order to get the trim sorted out with the low tank, I moved most of the weight from my weight belt to extra plates behind my backplate.

richie · 7th August 2007, 16:45

i use to use a 1ltr on my back plate but had to change oring due to leaks so i ran the whip from the 50% 7ltr for one dive, and the 1ltr suit inflation cylinder is still sat on the bench 6 months later. i think that lossing an extra cylinder and first stage can only be a good thing , and the amount i use out of a 7ltr is about 7bar a dive which is nothing after a few dives i just top of the rich mix to 250 bar again.

Mark Chase · 7th August 2007, 16:56

Inverted on the back plate. 1.5ltr tin mounted withy a webbing strap and a bungee loop.

Works OK but I prefered it when My decoweeny frame let me butt mount it.

ATB

Mark

7th August 2007, 15:08	#1 (permalink)
PSquared New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Africa Posts: 32	Suit inflation bottle positioning Rather than side track the thread on where to hang your slugs, I thought I'd start a new one re where suit inflation comes from. I run a dedicated 2l hanging off my backplate (right) bearing in mind I don't dive in the sea and carry only one SMB (if at all). This works on both the Inspo and the Meg (but I need to raise the bottle slightly on the Meg). Because of restriction issues in my favorite cave system, I went this route rather than what seems to be the standard here - to mount the bottle on the side of the Inspo box. Because there is often He in my dil cylinder, I'd rather not run off that. I see the narked@90 frame has a spot onder the stack for a suit inflation bottle but I still have GI3s rantings about butt mounted strokery in my brain Always keen to hear other ideas and try what others have found to work (including O2 suit inflaltion which I don't like the sound of) P2 PS for the record my slugs re 2 x 80s left with a third nose clipped if required and a 7l O2 on the right if it is going along for the swim rather than being staged. __________________ P2 The voices say I wasn't really diving solo
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7th August 2007, 15:30	#2 (permalink)
gathan MixedGas Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tottenham, Ontario, Canada Posts: 202	Re: Suit inflation bottle positioning Quote: (Originally Posted by PSquared) I see the narked@90 frame has a spot onder the stack for a suit inflation bottle but I still have GI3s rantings about butt mounted strokery in my brain You might want to try to clean this up through therapy or other means, so that you may re-visit the idea Andre
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7th August 2007, 15:35	#3 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,168	Re: Suit inflation bottle positioning I run my drysuit from my rich bailout (No He) and my wing from my lean bailout (He). No need for an extra cylinder then, also I just use the CCR to rebreathe. You would be flabbergasted at how long your diluent lasts when you are not using it for inflation. This also means both bailout cylinders are on, and ready to go, the only proviso is that I have a flow stop, and an OPV, on my rich mix reg. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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7th August 2007, 15:42	#4 (permalink)
JS1scuba RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss MK 15.X Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ - USA Posts: 417	Re: Suit inflation bottle positioning Quote: (Originally Posted by PSquared) Because there is often He in my dil cylinder, I'd rather not run off that. I see the narked@90 frame has a spot onder the stack for a suit inflation bottle but I still have GI3s rantings about butt mounted strokery in my brain Simple fact is that you are a STROKE by not using an RB80 ... press on with life and you won't have these issues again. Bottles .... I run a 6cuft off the divers left side of the back plate. I can pull 2 dives without worrying about it off of this for 75 m and shallower. I also have a 13 cuft bottle (2l) that i use in same spot if I dont want to carry extra 6s with me on a weekend. My bail/out DIL has a suit inflator hose on it so should i need it I can get it for either the suit or the wing. The naked at 90 stand does have a place for a small bottle on the bottom -- just make sure you are not ass heavy to begin with before putting it there. Make sure you have an OPV on the reg and make sure you turned it on before getting in the water -- it's hard to reach unless you have arms of an ape. Run that hose up under the arm and into the inflator valve. Cheers __________________ Joel Silverstein, VP COO Tech Diving Limited a Division of Scuba Training and Technology Inc. http://www.nautilusdiveplanner.com FREE NAUTILUS DIVE PLANNER DEMO - REGISTER HERE KISS # 275
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7th August 2007, 15:46	#5 (permalink)
PSquared New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Africa Posts: 32	Re: Suit inflation bottle positioning Quote: (Originally Posted by gathan) You might want to try to clean this up through therapy or other means, so that you may re-visit the idea Andre You were clearly never flamed by GI3 on the old Aquanaut lists..... scarred for life, still wake up screaming notwithstanding the therapy ("with good management you'll be crazy for a long time my boy") Actually I am considering it for my Meg. __________________ P2 The voices say I wasn't really diving solo
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7th August 2007, 15:54	#6 (permalink)
PSquared New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Africa Posts: 32	Re: Suit inflation bottle positioning Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) I run my drysuit from my rich bailout (No He) and my wing from my lean bailout (He). No need for an extra cylinder then, also I just use the CCR to rebreathe. Dave Cooper. Good call, problem is my richest baleout other than the pure O2 is a 50/20 - cold and expensive suit inflation! Methinks "normal" dives shallower than say 40m with a Ntx baleout this is an elegant solution requiring one less cylinder. __________________ P2 The voices say I wasn't really diving solo
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7th August 2007, 16:03	#7 (permalink)
UKSteve Still a novice... Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Weymouth, UK Posts: 557	Re: Suit inflation bottle positioning Hi I use a 1 litre aluminium bottle mounted on left side of back plate using the Agir-Brokk strap system Underwater Explorers. Dead easy to install and use. Sits in snug between me and the wing .. out of the way of any other kit and above the line to my dil cylinder knob. 1 litre bottle lasts 2 normal (< 40m) dives or a 70m dive easily. At moment I only use suit inflation for bouyancy adjustments and as Dave says, the dil lasts for ever! Steve
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7th August 2007, 16:37	#8 (permalink)
jkromelow PreNarked Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA Posts: 59	Re: Suit inflation bottle positioning I was using a 6 cu ft bottle attached to the left side of my backplate with my Meg. I switched to a 14 cu ft bottle on the narked@90 stand. I use this bottle for both my drysuit and my BC. I attached an extra dry suit hose to my bail out (a 40 cu ft bottle) just in case I have a failure, then at least I will have redundancy. I use my dil only for dil. This set up is working perfectly for me. In order to get the trim sorted out with the low tank, I moved most of the weight from my weight belt to extra plates behind my backplate. __________________ Justin Kromelow TDI Instructor PADI MSDT
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7th August 2007, 16:45	#9 (permalink)
richie New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ireland Posts: 86	Re: Suit inflation bottle positioning i use to use a 1ltr on my back plate but had to change oring due to leaks so i ran the whip from the 50% 7ltr for one dive, and the 1ltr suit inflation cylinder is still sat on the bench 6 months later. i think that lossing an extra cylinder and first stage can only be a good thing , and the amount i use out of a 7ltr is about 7bar a dive which is nothing after a few dives i just top of the rich mix to 250 bar again. __________________ assumption is mother of all **** ups
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7th August 2007, 16:56	#10 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,470	Re: Suit inflation bottle positioning Inverted on the back plate. 1.5ltr tin mounted withy a webbing strap and a bungee loop. Works OK but I prefered it when My decoweeny frame let me butt mount it. ATB Mark __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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