Cooper Hoses Anyone?????

PnL · 24th July 2007, 05:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bazza)

Follow my logic .... the rEvo uses Drager Ray hoses. My Airtess bailout Rebreather mouthpiece uses Ray parts. I can fit a Cooper hose over the Flapper valve (Ray part). Sooooooo they should fit but I have not tried them on my rEvo yet.

regards Baz

PS you can't fit two Cooper hoses on the Airtess mouthpiece which is a real bugger.

What about the length of the hoses, will it be compatible with the rEvo?

DanFountain · 25th July 2007, 18:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bazza)

...you can't fit two Cooper hoses on the Airtess mouthpiece which is a real bugger.

Baz,

What is the outside diameter of these hoses? (Assume that's why you can't put them on the Airtess DSV...) Thanks.

Dan

Bazza · 25th July 2007, 23:46

Hi Dan .... a hose will fit over the flapper valve easy, the problem comes when you want to put two of them on the unit. The gap between the valve stems which hold the flapper valve is to small to allow two hoses side by side. The thickness of the hose stops two hoses going on side by side.

I think that explains it ???

regards Baz

DanFountain · 26th July 2007, 18:30

Baz,

That's what I figured. I'm wondering if they'll fit on the spigots on a BP 240 center section, which are 1.75" center to center. Not sure if either the OD of the cuff or the OD of the corrugated section might be too large
Thanx.
Dan

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bazza)

Hi Dan .... a hose will fit over the flapper valve easy, the problem comes when you want to put two of them on the unit. The gap between the valve stems which hold the flapper valve is to small to allow two hoses side by side. The thickness of the hose stops two hoses going on side by side.

I think that explains it ???

regards Baz

Loneshark · 26th July 2007, 20:29

Finally managed to place my order for a pair of Cooper's. Great! $188, about £90, not bad.Got a call today (2 days later) to say they had arrived in the UK! Great! ...and then was told I owed another £27 in tax!!! bugger!!!
Should be here tomorrow, so I will be checking the paperwork,as that sounds a bit high?!
Surely should only be 17.5%?

***Decodiver*** · 26th July 2007, 21:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by Loneshark)

Surely should only be 17.5%?

No, duty on the import first, then VAT on the lot.

Isn't Gordon Brown a lovely chap?

Did anyone actually vote for the spendthrift C**t?

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

PS Oh how I love living in Europe.

Mark Chase · 26th July 2007, 21:34

My ones should turn up soon

Any body dived them yet? do they still need weights?

I was thinking of two bungee loops from the wing to the hoses to hold them down rather than the coiled lead.

Any problems with my idea?

ATB

Mark

Mark Chase · 26th July 2007, 21:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

No, duty on the import first, then VAT on the lot.

Isn't Gordon Brown a lovely chap?

Did anyone actually vote for the spendthrift C**t?

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

PS Oh how I love living in Europe.

No but ill make the effort to vote against the c##t.

I haven't been this angry about a prime minister since??????

Well ever actually.

ATB

mark Chase

Philippe GERIN · 26th July 2007, 23:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

I was thinking of two bungee loops from the wing to the hoses to hold them down rather than the coiled lead.
Any problems with my idea?

I've been using velcro loops on the original Kiss hoses and just did it yesterday with the Cooper hoses but not from the wing: one side is O2 hoses (MAV) velcroed with breathing hose, other side is BOV LP hose velcroed with the other breathing hose. Works a treat, keep them down, no weight needed for me.
Best
Philippe

Digger · 27th July 2007, 15:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

My ones should turn up soon

Any body dived them yet? do they still need weights?

I was thinking of two bungee loops from the wing to the hoses to hold them down rather than the coiled lead.

Any problems with my idea?

ATB

Mark

I dived mine today, no loops, but with the hose weights from the original unit. Didn't need any extra lead, but if you're not using hose weights of any sort then a loop of bungee or surgical tubing might cover it.

So lovely. They can join the list of bargains for this year. So many blown out dives I've got time to go looking for deals on dive gear and new ideas!

Digs.

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PnL Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 180	Re: Cooper Hoses Anyone????? Quote: (Originally Posted by Bazza) Follow my logic .... the rEvo uses Drager Ray hoses. My Airtess bailout Rebreather mouthpiece uses Ray parts. I can fit a Cooper hose over the Flapper valve (Ray part). Sooooooo they should fit but I have not tried them on my rEvo yet. regards Baz PS you can't fit two Cooper hoses on the Airtess mouthpiece which is a real bugger. What about the length of the hoses, will it be compatible with the rEvo?
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25th July 2007, 18:42	#52 (permalink)
DanFountain Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lake Superior Posts: 101	Re: Cooper Hoses Anyone????? Quote: (Originally Posted by Bazza) ...you can't fit two Cooper hoses on the Airtess mouthpiece which is a real bugger. Baz, What is the outside diameter of these hoses? (Assume that's why you can't put them on the Airtess DSV...) Thanks. Dan __________________ Try not. Do - or do not. There is no try. -Yoda
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25th July 2007, 23:46	#53 (permalink)
Bazza New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution rEvo Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 161	Re: Cooper Hoses Anyone????? Hi Dan .... a hose will fit over the flapper valve easy, the problem comes when you want to put two of them on the unit. The gap between the valve stems which hold the flapper valve is to small to allow two hoses side by side. The thickness of the hose stops two hoses going on side by side. I think that explains it ??? regards Baz
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26th July 2007, 18:30	#54 (permalink)
DanFountain Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lake Superior Posts: 101	Re: Cooper Hoses Anyone????? Baz, That's what I figured. I'm wondering if they'll fit on the spigots on a BP 240 center section, which are 1.75" center to center. Not sure if either the OD of the cuff or the OD of the corrugated section might be too large Thanx. Dan Quote: (Originally Posted by Bazza) Hi Dan .... a hose will fit over the flapper valve easy, the problem comes when you want to put two of them on the unit. The gap between the valve stems which hold the flapper valve is to small to allow two hoses side by side. The thickness of the hose stops two hoses going on side by side. I think that explains it ??? regards Baz __________________ Try not. Do - or do not. There is no try. -Yoda Last edited by DanFountain : 27th July 2007 at 16:33.
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26th July 2007, 20:29	#55 (permalink)
Loneshark New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hull East Yorks Posts: 60	Re: Cooper Hoses Anyone????? Finally managed to place my order for a pair of Cooper's. Great! $188, about £90, not bad.Got a call today (2 days later) to say they had arrived in the UK! Great! ...and then was told I owed another £27 in tax!!! bugger!!! Should be here tomorrow, so I will be checking the paperwork,as that sounds a bit high?! Surely should only be 17.5%? __________________ www.lonesharkproductions.com
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26th July 2007, 21:27	#56 (permalink)
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26th July 2007, 21:34	#57 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,540	Re: Cooper Hoses Anyone????? My ones should turn up soon Any body dived them yet? do they still need weights? I was thinking of two bungee loops from the wing to the hoses to hold them down rather than the coiled lead. Any problems with my idea? ATB Mark __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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26th July 2007, 21:37	#58 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,540	Re: Cooper Hoses Anyone????? Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) No, duty on the import first, then VAT on the lot. Isn't Gordon Brown a lovely chap? Did anyone actually vote for the spendthrift Ct? Cheers, Dave Cooper. PS Oh how I love living in Europe. No but ill make the effort to vote against the c##t. I haven't been this angry about a prime minister since?????? Well ever actually. ATB mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System**
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26th July 2007, 23:53	#59 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 632	Re: Cooper Hoses Anyone????? Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) I was thinking of two bungee loops from the wing to the hoses to hold them down rather than the coiled lead. Any problems with my idea? I've been using velcro loops on the original Kiss hoses and just did it yesterday with the Cooper hoses but not from the wing: one side is O2 hoses (MAV) velcroed with breathing hose, other side is BOV LP hose velcroed with the other breathing hose. Works a treat, keep them down, no weight needed for me. Best Philippe
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27th July 2007, 15:08	#60 (permalink)
Digger Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 206	Re: Cooper Hoses Anyone????? Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) My ones should turn up soon Any body dived them yet? do they still need weights? I was thinking of two bungee loops from the wing to the hoses to hold them down rather than the coiled lead. Any problems with my idea? ATB Mark I dived mine today, no loops, but with the hose weights from the original unit. Didn't need any extra lead, but if you're not using hose weights of any sort then a loop of bungee or surgical tubing might cover it. So lovely. They can join the list of bargains for this year. So many blown out dives I've got time to go looking for deals on dive gear and new ideas! Digs.
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