How many of you dive OC ...

PnL · 20th June 2007, 04:09

... now that you've been converted?

Under what circumstances do you go to OC SCUBA over CCR? And for those who rarely go OC now, did you sell most of your OC gear?

Thanks,
Paul

Russ · 20th June 2007, 04:23

Sadly when I teach OC... and on one tropical trip which should change this year

mattmexico · 20th June 2007, 04:24

yo

I still dive a lot oc, especially while teaching cave or mix courses I do believe that if my student ( s ) are diving oc they should see their instructor ( me ) diving the same configuration to see the instructors set up and be able to see it in action - maybe even copy it, even by IANTD standards I could dive ccr and my students do their training program on oc.

With that said, I do still have my full oc kit with doubles, reg's, stages, harness, and the like.

saludos
Matt

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 20th June 2007, 04:29

Sold pretty much everything, and I am limiting any travel to destinations where I can get the supplies (Extend Air Cartridges) I need or to which I can reasonably ship them.

Mixaddict · 20th June 2007, 04:45

I dive quite a bit of OC, mostly because I teach a lot of tech OC classes, and I also believe the students should see me in OC gear while teaching an OC class. Kind of difficult to demonstrate valve shut downs and such while wearing CCR. I also use OC in locals that don't support CCR or when the additional hassle with CCR isn't warranted. That said, if I have my choice, I will usually opt for CCR, especially if going deep.

mattmexico · 20th June 2007, 04:51

yo

.........That said, if I have my choice, I will usually opt for CCR, especially if going deep.[/quote] .........

Couple of weeks ago I had my first oc cave course for a while ..... I think I have been diving ccr for over a year or so now steady, teaching and fun diving ... well .... the missus dives went oc with single tanks ... nice ...

Anywaz ... so when teaching the oc cave course I was thinking for a while where that noise came from ..... and had to realize that my buoyancy on oc was a twat better then ccr .... sniffffff ....

saludos
Matt

Abbo · 20th June 2007, 05:12

I'm in a hurry to build up hours on my unit to qualify for taking Mod 3, because it is dull being confined to the shallows, unable to dive mix. I dived on a single tank the other weekend though, when I ran out of O2 and was on an island with no resupply. It was a horrible experience: I hate using other people's kit. The vest leaked like a sieve, so I had to take the whole thing off and repair it underwater. And the shop had the cheek to charge me $40 for the pleasure of borrowing their shoddy kit. I should have sat the damn dive out! I suppose there is an argument for occasionally diving OC to keep your credentials current, but I'd rather spend the time diving my 'breather - and with a family to entertain, diving time is a scarcer than rocking horse poop.

As for selling my OC kit, a surprising amount of it I still use. My Diverite Transpac bolts straight onto my Meg. It was comforting to have such a key part still with me when I made the switch to CCR: some of it is covered with counterlung now, but I know that even in a total siltout my fingers know exactly where everything is - the Z-knife, the shears, the line, the lights. My Travel Wing didn't get that much use on OC, because I dived doubles almost all the time, even when it wasn't strictly necessary. I was surprised that there is ample lift on the wing for my Meg. Deco regs are useful for bailout, but my Poseidon Jetstreams really don't deserve that kind of treatment. I doubt the resale value would be that high and I'd rather have them around just in case: we've been through a lot together and have a lot of shared memories. The same goes for my Superwings: I wouldn't need to use them much to make them worth more than the chump change I would get selling them on e-Bay. The upshot is: if you have good tech diving kit that you have spent lots of time modifying, you are not going to get enough for it to feel good about selling it. If it's single tank stuff in dayglo pink then you may want to sell it annonymously online before your mates find out - just don't expect what you get paid for it to offset much of the cost of a 'breather.

Rebreather diving is expensive, but I look at it this way: I have a wife - she costs far more and I get a damn sight less use out of her.

kieranu · 20th June 2007, 05:24

When I was travelling overseas in April I did a couple dives so I went OC rather than carry my whole rig around with me. It'll be nice when the market gets a little more saturated and I can just get away with carrying around my electronics at most (I can't imagine thats more than a few years away apart from the remotest locations). Locally I occasionally dive with a small university club that is still scared of the whole rebreather thing so for now I only go OC off their boat. I also do teaching on OC (got to justify all those CCR-related equipment and training costs to the taxman somehow) since I'm not a Rebreather instructor and I don't really fancy doing OW training with a bunch of newbies while I'm on the loop and should be watching them not my PPO2.

PnL · 20th June 2007, 05:38

So when you guys go OC after being on CCR what are the largest adjustments you have to make. I'm very comfortable in my OC rigs and I wonder how much of that will be lost if I dive CCR mostly. Also, do you guys maintain your RMV rates or does it increase once on CCR since you don't have to worry about it so much?

Dutchy · 20th June 2007, 05:51

"OC is for bailout and what was RMV again?" those would have been the ideal answer. However when I went to Egypt for a family vacation I didn't bother as I knew I'd make 4 dives at best anyways.... And for me the RMV has dramatically deteriorated wich isn't a good thing when going to 30m on a single 12l

20th June 2007, 04:09	#1 (permalink)
PnL Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 168	How many of you dive OC ... ... now that you've been converted? Under what circumstances do you go to OC SCUBA over CCR? And for those who rarely go OC now, did you sell most of your OC gear? Thanks, Paul
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20th June 2007, 04:23	#2 (permalink)
Russ New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 88	Re: How many of you dive OC ... Sadly when I teach OC... and on one tropical trip which should change this year
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20th June 2007, 04:24	#3 (permalink)
mattmexico Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Optima RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss RB80 / Clone Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mexico, Q.Roo, Playa del Carmen Posts: 696	Re: How many of you dive OC ... yo I still dive a lot oc, especially while teaching cave or mix courses I do believe that if my student ( s ) are diving oc they should see their instructor ( me ) diving the same configuration to see the instructors set up and be able to see it in action - maybe even copy it, even by IANTD standards I could dive ccr and my students do their training program on oc. With that said, I do still have my full oc kit with doubles, reg's, stages, harness, and the like. saludos Matt __________________ N 20' 37.617' W 87' 04.693' www.andreaswmatthes.com
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20th June 2007, 04:29	#4 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 1,896	Re: How many of you dive OC ... Sold pretty much everything, and I am limiting any travel to destinations where I can get the supplies (Extend Air Cartridges) I need or to which I can reasonably ship them. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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20th June 2007, 04:45	#5 (permalink)
Mixaddict Always Learning! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Draper, Utah USA Posts: 415	Re: How many of you dive OC ... I dive quite a bit of OC, mostly because I teach a lot of tech OC classes, and I also believe the students should see me in OC gear while teaching an OC class. Kind of difficult to demonstrate valve shut downs and such while wearing CCR. I also use OC in locals that don't support CCR or when the additional hassle with CCR isn't warranted. That said, if I have my choice, I will usually opt for CCR, especially if going deep. __________________ Randy Thornton (MixAddict) Inspiration, Evolution,Hammerhead & Sentinel CCR Instructor
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20th June 2007, 04:51	#6 (permalink)
mattmexico Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Optima RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss RB80 / Clone Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mexico, Q.Roo, Playa del Carmen Posts: 696	Re: How many of you dive OC ... yo .........That said, if I have my choice, I will usually opt for CCR, especially if going deep.[/quote] ......... Couple of weeks ago I had my first oc cave course for a while ..... I think I have been diving ccr for over a year or so now steady, teaching and fun diving ... well .... the missus dives went oc with single tanks ... nice ... Anywaz ... so when teaching the oc cave course I was thinking for a while where that noise came from ..... and had to realize that my buoyancy on oc was a twat better then ccr .... sniffffff .... saludos Matt __________________ N 20' 37.617' W 87' 04.693' www.andreaswmatthes.com
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20th June 2007, 05:12	#7 (permalink)
Abbo Going down on Meg Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokyo Posts: 379	Re: How many of you dive OC ... I'm in a hurry to build up hours on my unit to qualify for taking Mod 3, because it is dull being confined to the shallows, unable to dive mix. I dived on a single tank the other weekend though, when I ran out of O2 and was on an island with no resupply. It was a horrible experience: I hate using other people's kit. The vest leaked like a sieve, so I had to take the whole thing off and repair it underwater. And the shop had the cheek to charge me $40 for the pleasure of borrowing their shoddy kit. I should have sat the damn dive out! I suppose there is an argument for occasionally diving OC to keep your credentials current, but I'd rather spend the time diving my 'breather - and with a family to entertain, diving time is a scarcer than rocking horse poop. As for selling my OC kit, a surprising amount of it I still use. My Diverite Transpac bolts straight onto my Meg. It was comforting to have such a key part still with me when I made the switch to CCR: some of it is covered with counterlung now, but I know that even in a total siltout my fingers know exactly where everything is - the Z-knife, the shears, the line, the lights. My Travel Wing didn't get that much use on OC, because I dived doubles almost all the time, even when it wasn't strictly necessary. I was surprised that there is ample lift on the wing for my Meg. Deco regs are useful for bailout, but my Poseidon Jetstreams really don't deserve that kind of treatment. I doubt the resale value would be that high and I'd rather have them around just in case: we've been through a lot together and have a lot of shared memories. The same goes for my Superwings: I wouldn't need to use them much to make them worth more than the chump change I would get selling them on e-Bay. The upshot is: if you have good tech diving kit that you have spent lots of time modifying, you are not going to get enough for it to feel good about selling it. If it's single tank stuff in dayglo pink then you may want to sell it annonymously online before your mates find out - just don't expect what you get paid for it to offset much of the cost of a 'breather. Rebreather diving is expensive, but I look at it this way: I have a wife - she costs far more and I get a damn sight less use out of her. Last edited by Abbo : 20th June 2007 at 06:44.
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20th June 2007, 05:24	#8 (permalink)
kieranu Apprentice Meg Pilot Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: WA, Australia Posts: 229	Re: How many of you dive OC ... When I was travelling overseas in April I did a couple dives so I went OC rather than carry my whole rig around with me. It'll be nice when the market gets a little more saturated and I can just get away with carrying around my electronics at most (I can't imagine thats more than a few years away apart from the remotest locations). Locally I occasionally dive with a small university club that is still scared of the whole rebreather thing so for now I only go OC off their boat. I also do teaching on OC (got to justify all those CCR-related equipment and training costs to the taxman somehow) since I'm not a Rebreather instructor and I don't really fancy doing OW training with a bunch of newbies while I'm on the loop and should be watching them not my PPO2.
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20th June 2007, 05:38	#9 (permalink)
PnL Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 168	Re: How many of you dive OC ... So when you guys go OC after being on CCR what are the largest adjustments you have to make. I'm very comfortable in my OC rigs and I wonder how much of that will be lost if I dive CCR mostly. Also, do you guys maintain your RMV rates or does it increase once on CCR since you don't have to worry about it so much?
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20th June 2007, 05:51	#10 (permalink)
Dutchy SK#007 Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 695	Re: How many of you dive OC ... "OC is for bailout and what was RMV again?" those would have been the ideal answer. However when I went to Egypt for a family vacation I didn't bother as I knew I'd make 4 dives at best anyways.... And for me the RMV has dramatically deteriorated wich isn't a good thing when going to 30m on a single 12l __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. = SK #007
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