Deployment of SMB

Soren Thomsen · 16th June 2007, 14:27

Hi all,

Just a CCR greenies question.
How do you deploy your SMB or liftbag? Do use the small co2 bottles, by mouth, use wing inflator, stage reg. ??

Cheers
Soren

jptaylor9 · 16th June 2007, 15:01

Main one is a Buddy DSMB fitted with a 0.1L crack bottle that you fill off a cylinder. My backups (red/yellow) are both inflated by a CO2 cartridge. The main one can also be filled off a reg if you find the crack bottle is empty (doh)

JT

CCR900 · 16th June 2007, 15:33

I bought a DUI SMB, to fill it I plug in my dry suit hose. Fitting does not lock to the SMB so when it leaves for the surface it unplugs on its own. I find it easier (and less gas) than a reg. The idea of a mini bottle clipped onto my belt scares me a bit (I had one) all it would take is someone to crack it (someone looking to inherit my fortunes!) and I get a rapid one way ticket to the surface.

Rgds

F

decoweenie · 16th June 2007, 15:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900)

...(someone looking to inherit my fortunes!) and I get a rapid one way ticket to the surface.

Sorry, what fortune ? ...

diverrob · 16th June 2007, 15:57

I have a Halycon one that I fill with my suit inflation bottle (LP Whip)

Shaunzxr · 16th June 2007, 17:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900)

The idea of a mini bottle clipped onto my belt scares me a bit (I had one) all it would take is someone to crack it (someone looking to inherit my fortunes!) and I get a rapid one way ticket to the surface.

Rgds

F

I have a delayed with a crack bottle. I have it wrapped around my Custom Divers reel with the velcro strap.
If I don't release the velcro strap fully on deployment the bottle empties staight through the air release valve on the DSMB. I think this is how it is designed.

Going to surface would not happen in my experience

The only fault I would pick with this design is once the bottle empties it can fill with water and if you are not carefull this can enter the cylinder you fill it with. We all know saltwater in a steel cylinder is not good. Its also a bit bulky and hard to clip some where out the way

pattimegdiver · 16th June 2007, 17:23

I use my wing inflator to add air into my SMB. I maintain my buoyancy by displacing the air from the wing to the lift bag.

lizardland · 16th June 2007, 17:46

I use a couple of puffs off my bailout reg to send up my SMB. My hands get cold quick and I'm extremely lazy so I don't like disconnecting a hose to fill one with a valve. That is countered by being extremely tight so I won't stretch to a crack bottle or CO2 cartridges.

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900)

The idea of a mini bottle clipped onto my belt scares me a bit (I had one) all it would take is someone to crack it (someone looking to inherit my fortunes!) and I get a rapid one way ticket to the surface.

Someone (Phi?) a few years ago did a test with a crack bottle powered SMB and inflated it with the SMB rolled up. The straps held and it wouldn't inflate.

Cheers,

Stuart

Mark Chase · 16th June 2007, 17:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by jptaylor9)

Main one is a Buddy DSMB fitted with a 0.1L crack bottle that you fill off a cylinder. My backups (red/yellow) are both inflated by a CO2 cartridge. The main one can also be filled off a reg if you find the crack bottle is empty (doh)

JT

Same as me.

ATB

Mark Chase

silent running · 16th June 2007, 17:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by pattimegdiver)

I use my wing inflator to add air into my SMB. I maintain my buoyancy by displacing the air from the wing to the lift bag.

Hello Patti, that's how I was taught to do it, by holding the dump button, then the inflate and directing the flow into the bag. Though of course you have to be a little bit vertical to get the gas to go into the bag and not back into the wing. It's also not as easy with some inflators as others, actually it's never been easy for me and I find it a bit stressful. Maybe there's a better way... -Andy

16th June 2007, 14:27	#1 (permalink)
Soren Thomsen Happy Hippo Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 138	Deployment of SMB Hi all, Just a CCR greenies question. How do you deploy your SMB or liftbag? Do use the small co2 bottles, by mouth, use wing inflator, stage reg. ?? Cheers Soren
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16th June 2007, 15:01	#2 (permalink)
jptaylor9 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 312	Re: Deployment of SMB Main one is a Buddy DSMB fitted with a 0.1L crack bottle that you fill off a cylinder. My backups (red/yellow) are both inflated by a CO2 cartridge. The main one can also be filled off a reg if you find the crack bottle is empty (doh) JT
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16th June 2007, 15:33	#3 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: Deployment of SMB I bought a DUI SMB, to fill it I plug in my dry suit hose. Fitting does not lock to the SMB so when it leaves for the surface it unplugs on its own. I find it easier (and less gas) than a reg. The idea of a mini bottle clipped onto my belt scares me a bit (I had one) all it would take is someone to crack it (someone looking to inherit my fortunes!) and I get a rapid one way ticket to the surface. Rgds F
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16th June 2007, 15:49	#4 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Deployment of SMB Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900) ...(someone looking to inherit my fortunes!) and I get a rapid one way ticket to the surface. Sorry, what fortune ? ... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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16th June 2007, 15:57	#5 (permalink)
diverrob The Evolution of Diving Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other SCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Victoria BC Canada Posts: 320	Re: Deployment of SMB I have a Halycon one that I fill with my suit inflation bottle (LP Whip)
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16th June 2007, 17:13	#6 (permalink)
Shaunzxr Inspo Luver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK, midlands Posts: 80	Re: Deployment of SMB Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900) The idea of a mini bottle clipped onto my belt scares me a bit (I had one) all it would take is someone to crack it (someone looking to inherit my fortunes!) and I get a rapid one way ticket to the surface. Rgds F I have a delayed with a crack bottle. I have it wrapped around my Custom Divers reel with the velcro strap. If I don't release the velcro strap fully on deployment the bottle empties staight through the air release valve on the DSMB. I think this is how it is designed. Going to surface would not happen in my experience The only fault I would pick with this design is once the bottle empties it can fill with water and if you are not carefull this can enter the cylinder you fill it with. We all know saltwater in a steel cylinder is not good. Its also a bit bulky and hard to clip some where out the way
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16th June 2007, 17:23	#7 (permalink)
pattimegdiver #1 COPIS Mini Meg Girl Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 305	Re: Deployment of SMB I use my wing inflator to add air into my SMB. I maintain my buoyancy by displacing the air from the wing to the lift bag. __________________ Patti Meg Diver Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk
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16th June 2007, 17:46	#8 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,186	Re: Deployment of SMB I use a couple of puffs off my bailout reg to send up my SMB. My hands get cold quick and I'm extremely lazy so I don't like disconnecting a hose to fill one with a valve. That is countered by being extremely tight so I won't stretch to a crack bottle or CO2 cartridges. Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900) The idea of a mini bottle clipped onto my belt scares me a bit (I had one) all it would take is someone to crack it (someone looking to inherit my fortunes!) and I get a rapid one way ticket to the surface. Someone (Phi?) a few years ago did a test with a crack bottle powered SMB and inflated it with the SMB rolled up. The straps held and it wouldn't inflate. Cheers, Stuart __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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16th June 2007, 17:49	#9 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,470	Re: Deployment of SMB Quote: (Originally Posted by jptaylor9) Main one is a Buddy DSMB fitted with a 0.1L crack bottle that you fill off a cylinder. My backups (red/yellow) are both inflated by a CO2 cartridge. The main one can also be filled off a reg if you find the crack bottle is empty (doh) JT Same as me. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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16th June 2007, 17:52	#10 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,774	Re: Deployment of SMB Quote: (Originally Posted by pattimegdiver) I use my wing inflator to add air into my SMB. I maintain my buoyancy by displacing the air from the wing to the lift bag. Hello Patti, that's how I was taught to do it, by holding the dump button, then the inflate and directing the flow into the bag. Though of course you have to be a little bit vertical to get the gas to go into the bag and not back into the wing. It's also not as easy with some inflators as others, actually it's never been easy for me and I find it a bit stressful. Maybe there's a better way... -Andy
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