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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Deployment of SMB Someone (Phi?) a few years ago did a test with a crack bottle powered SMB and inflated it with the SMB rolled up. The straps held and it wouldn't inflate. No, it wasn't me.Can't take credit for it, but now that you have mentioned it, I will have a try since I also use the APD-bottle DSMB system for a long time now - it is great!
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| #1 COPIS Mini Meg Girl ![]() Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Deployment of SMB Hello Patti, that's how I was taught to do it, by holding the dump button, then the inflate and directing the flow into the bag. Though of course you have to be a little bit vertical to get the gas to go into the bag and not back into the wing. It's also not as easy with some inflators as others, actually it's never been easy for me and I find it a bit stressful. Maybe there's a better way... -Andy Hi AndyI have tried a few ways, but i went back to the way I was taught. By using the reg from my BO cylinder, I would have to put the reg back in its place with one hand and hold on to the reel with the other hand and if there is any current - holy crap .... Using a small bottle, just allows one more thing that could have problems. ![]()
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Deployment of SMB Another vote on that one... Works great! Likewise - main SMB and back ups as JPT - no issues what so ever - hassle free deployment in seconds completely redundant from your other kit.Dive Safe.. Mark SMB sits in my leg cargo pocket until departure with reels on rig. Cheers.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Deployment of SMB Using a small bottle, just allows one more thing that could have problems. Such as ?![]() I don't know if you have seen/tried one before, but it is very simple and fast to deploy a DSMB with such a system, especially with a CCR. It only takes a few seconds to undo the velcro and turn the valve on - quick and clean. As mentioned above by someone else, the back-up action is to fill it manually (by stage, wing, etc) if needed. On OC, I just use the exhaust bubbles from normal breathing to fill the DSMB. That also doesn't change the buoyancy since it only need a few breath to fill from depth. Using the wing will maintain your neutral buoyancy while you are still hanging on to the DSMB at depth, but as soon as you released it, you will be negative. At the end of the day, just do whatever floats your DSMB... I have tried/used just about all different systems available, and prefer the bottle system personally.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Deployment of SMB I've tried firing the autoblob velvro attached. Velcro remained done up and the gas just vented out of the OPV. It would be next to impossible to turn it on by mistake though. Not really a reason to stop anyone buying what is really a great bit of kit. Just remember to fill it. I concertina the red bit before diving for ease of deployment. Once out, I just roll it up until I fill it. It's obvious when it needs filling then. (Red autoblob, red manual APD, yellow CO2 emergency blob like Chasey) |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Deployment of SMB I use my wing inflator to add air into my SMB. I maintain my buoyancy by displacing the air from the wing to the lift bag. Sounds like a smart idea being able to inflate without much boyancy change and only then release it.... I'll give it a try. For now have some green for the suggestion....
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Deployment of SMB Much the same here... but something to watch with the "crack bottle". The one way valve is simply a rubber sleeve over the inlet peg. It can get torn due to the flow and thus let water back into the bottle when it empties. This can cause rapid corrosion in the bottle and also transfer water into the tank from which it is filled. I would tend to suggest better practise is to briefly open the bottle and then close it prior to releasing the DSMB. From anything over 20m it will be full by the time it reaches the surface. Steve |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Deployment of SMB First, I use the Halcyon closed-circuit liftbags. They are fitted with a schrader type valve that does not lock. You just press the low pressure inflator from your bc, drysuit, or offboard bailout reg onto the lift bag's male valve and you get a nice quick inflation. The cc bags have an OPRV on the top to burp excess gas on the way up. They almost always hit the surface full of gas, and they can't spill like an oc bag. I only deploy with finger spools right now, as I've had hang-ups with using a safety spools and had to let the whole thing go, neccessitating the use of the backup. I've been using the offboard bailout bottle's LP inflator hose since it is handy. Because the bag inflates quickly, you can get a big initial fill in the bag before it throws off your bouyancy. Since the loop is untouched, there is no problems with loss of bouyancy there. The only problem I have with the Halcyon lift bags is that I can't get one in yellow. I have a 50lb LB and a very large SMB. I use the SMB in big seas or as a backup. Without a multicolor combination of orange and yellow, I signal a problem by attaching a slate to the bag.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Deployment of SMB I have a Halycon one that I fill with my suit inflation bottle (LP Whip) Same. Drysuit whip.
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