What shark is this?

Tom Rose · 11th May 2007, 18:42

My vote is for a reef shark....I've seen a lot of them (several in Thailand) as well as bull sharks...Initially I confused them but bulls are much stouter and shorter. Reef sharks just look prettier underwater...bulls look a lot nastier....maybe that is subjective...

Interesting note....in the 60's we were under the impression that bull sharks were only dangerous in Aussi waters...not in Virginia!!!!! So much for the experts at the time.

In the late 60s had a 4-5 foot bull shark really give me a fit taking my speared fish on the second island of the bridge tunnel across the bay. After the third fish taken, I got nervous and made the mistake of putting a hand spear in him....he shook me like a rat in a tin can....broke the spear...the only thing keeping him from me...my two dive buddies still claim that I was half out of the water coming to the boat and cleared the side of the boat with a foot of clearance. It was not a pleasant experience....

I have seen bunches of them since and usually get out of the water....there used to be a resident population of them at Walkers Key at the end of the airport in just a few feet of water...they loved pieces of chicken.....and apparently shark researchers legs......

Here are a couple of reef shark shots from walkers key...note how similar the body of yours is to this.

You might be amused at my discomfort when my wife found out how large the sharks were when I took my son diving at Walkers.

GROUNDS FOR DIVORCE

Tom

wearypanda · 11th May 2007, 19:03

Whatever he is Roger, reef or bull, I hope you can introduce me when I am out with you guys in just over a week.

***sadave*** · 11th May 2007, 19:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by teksimple)

If it was a dusky, Rogeringebo should be stoked. It would represent a new species record for Thailand.

If that is a remora on it's left pectoral, I will admit a bull sounds like a goo possibility. I have never seen a gray reef with a remora.

My vote definately goes for Grey Whaler.

Dived with literally thousands of these babies out in the Coral Sea, great fun...

And yup, seen LOTS with remoras on them too.

rogeringebo · 11th May 2007, 20:37

This guy showed up on the same dive......but I know what this is....

Rodge

bendomatic · 11th May 2007, 21:12

that's just rubbing salt in wounds!

quickean · 11th May 2007, 21:13

I think I'm going to have to visit you and do some diving!

Don't think it's a grey reef - their second dorsal fin originates directly over the anal fin.
you can see what I mean here:
Florida Museum of Natural History Ichthyology Department: Grey Reef Shark

Divechick · 11th May 2007, 21:14

Now you are just showing off !!

silent running · 11th May 2007, 21:43

Hi Rodge, looks very bullish to me. I think it's definitely a Bull shark. It has the full body, the large triangular dorsal fin and the small eyes. I've seen a few, including a monster 14 footer in PNG. Oh, and every one I've seen was while on Rebreather, what a surprise. Where did you you see this one? -Andy

Dave Faye · 11th May 2007, 23:43

Grey Reef. Nose is to pointed for a bull even a juvie bull. Eyes are also a give away that its not a bull.

Where did you take the pic?

teksimple · 12th May 2007, 01:27

That's it. I am sending your Carcharhinus (at least we agree on the genus) pic to a couple experienced icthios I know. And if they can't agree, there is always John Randall.

11th May 2007, 18:42	#11 (permalink)
Tom Rose Still Learning Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: USA,North Carolina Posts: 328	Re: What shark is this? My vote is for a reef shark....I've seen a lot of them (several in Thailand) as well as bull sharks...Initially I confused them but bulls are much stouter and shorter. Reef sharks just look prettier underwater...bulls look a lot nastier....maybe that is subjective... Interesting note....in the 60's we were under the impression that bull sharks were only dangerous in Aussi waters...not in Virginia!!!!! So much for the experts at the time. In the late 60s had a 4-5 foot bull shark really give me a fit taking my speared fish on the second island of the bridge tunnel across the bay. After the third fish taken, I got nervous and made the mistake of putting a hand spear in him....he shook me like a rat in a tin can....broke the spear...the only thing keeping him from me...my two dive buddies still claim that I was half out of the water coming to the boat and cleared the side of the boat with a foot of clearance. It was not a pleasant experience.... I have seen bunches of them since and usually get out of the water....there used to be a resident population of them at Walkers Key at the end of the airport in just a few feet of water...they loved pieces of chicken.....and apparently shark researchers legs...... Here are a couple of reef shark shots from walkers key...note how similar the body of yours is to this. You might be amused at my discomfort when my wife found out how large the sharks were when I took my son diving at Walkers. GROUNDS FOR DIVORCE Tom __________________ The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong the first time. www.atlimp.com
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11th May 2007, 19:03	#12 (permalink)
wearypanda New Member Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Pelagian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wiltshire, UK Posts: 93	Re: What shark is this? Whatever he is Roger, reef or bull, I hope you can introduce me when I am out with you guys in just over a week.
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11th May 2007, 19:12	#13 (permalink)
*sadave* Waiting... Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Classic Kiss Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 1,041	Re: What shark is this? Quote: (Originally Posted by teksimple) If it was a dusky, Rogeringebo should be stoked. It would represent a new species record for Thailand. If that is a remora on it's left pectoral, I will admit a bull sounds like a goo possibility. I have never seen a gray reef with a remora. My vote definately goes for Grey Whaler. Dived with literally thousands of these babies out in the Coral Sea, great fun... And yup, seen LOTS with remoras on them too. __________________ Wave!
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bendomatic Morgan's Mum Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 205	Re: What shark is this? that's just rubbing salt in wounds! __________________ why deal with idiots on the net when you have to spend all day dealing with them at work.
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quickean Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 132	Re: What shark is this? I think I'm going to have to visit you and do some diving! Don't think it's a grey reef - their second dorsal fin originates directly over the anal fin. you can see what I mean here: Florida Museum of Natural History Ichthyology Department: Grey Reef Shark Last edited by quickean : 11th May 2007 at 21:42.
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Divechick Came down in the last shower of rain Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 53	Re: What shark is this? Now you are just showing off !!
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silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,832	Re: What shark is this? Hi Rodge, looks very bullish to me. I think it's definitely a Bull shark. It has the full body, the large triangular dorsal fin and the small eyes. I've seen a few, including a monster 14 footer in PNG. Oh, and every one I've seen was while on Rebreather, what a surprise. Where did you you see this one? -Andy
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11th May 2007, 23:43	#19 (permalink)
Dave Faye Know the wreck below? Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Megalodon Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 168	Re: What shark is this? Grey Reef. Nose is to pointed for a bull even a juvie bull. Eyes are also a give away that its not a bull. Where did you take the pic? __________________ Dave http://www.Bostondeepwrecks.com http://www.Fayelaw.com
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12th May 2007, 01:27	#20 (permalink)
teksimple Enlightened Alpinist Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Back in Hawaii Posts: 503	Re: What shark is this? That's it. I am sending your Carcharhinus (at least we agree on the genus) pic to a couple experienced icthios I know. And if they can't agree, there is always John Randall. __________________ ---- _____________ "I don't know the percentage of the Internet that's valid, do you? Jesus, it's scary." - Hunter S. Thompson
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