thinking of giving up

MrClive · 3rd May 2007, 21:28

well lads, as my title goes, thats whats on my mind at the mo. not feeling sorry for myself but feeling quiet bad. ever since my thread, MOD1 COMPLETE WITH CEDRIC, well as all of you know how that one goes, things have gotten worse. now since i came back from trainning in thailand, my club dosent want to know, REBREATHERS, REBREATHERS, NO REBREATHERS, ive turned up at a number of dives since and was told, sorry clive have no one to dive with you, people look at me now like i have the pox.. in the last few weeks ive bought, a megaldon rebreather, an otter brittanic dry suit, vr3 amongst others and for what. i am heading away to OZ in august but christ i didnt think things would be like this before i head. my diving officer gave me a great appaulise when i gave a briefing on my unit to my club, " bail out ", and all so i thought it would be good. but no one wants to know, so im posting this to let people know thats all, best wishes, clive

PCDiver · 3rd May 2007, 21:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive)

well lads, as my title goes, thats whats on my mind at the mo. not feeling sorry for myself but feeling quiet bad. ever since my thread, MOD1 COMPLETE WITH CEDRIC, well as all of you know how that one goes, things have gotten worse. now since i came back from trainning in thailand, my club dosent want to know, REBREATHERS, REBREATHERS, NO REBREATHERS, ive turned up at a number of dives since and was told, sorry clive have no one to dive with you, people look at me now like i have the pox.. in the last few weeks ive bought, a megaldon rebreather, an otter brittanic dry suit, vr3 amongst others and for what. i am heading away to OZ in august but christ i didnt think things would be like this before i head. my diving officer gave me a great appaulise when i gave a briefing on my unit to my club, " bail out ", and all so i thought it would be good. but no one wants to know, so im posting this to let people know thats all, best wishes, clive

That's very strange. I never had a problem with finding buddies. Most of them were friends diving OC. What about looking outside your club?

Mark Chase · 3rd May 2007, 21:46

I asume you meen giving up the club and not giving up the rebreather?

Barry (Bang on) is over in Ireland he should know a few turtle divers.

ATB

Mark Chase

**almity1** · 3rd May 2007, 22:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive)

well lads, as my title goes, thats whats on my mind at the mo. not feeling sorry for myself but feeling quiet bad. ever since my thread, MOD1 COMPLETE WITH CEDRIC, well as all of you know how that one goes, things have gotten worse. now since i came back from trainning in thailand, my club dosent want to know, REBREATHERS, REBREATHERS, NO REBREATHERS, ive turned up at a number of dives since and was told, sorry clive have no one to dive with you, people look at me now like i have the pox.. in the last few weeks ive bought, a megaldon rebreather, an otter brittanic dry suit, vr3 amongst others and for what. i am heading away to OZ in august but christ i didnt think things would be like this before i head. my diving officer gave me a great appaulise when i gave a briefing on my unit to my club, " bail out ", and all so i thought it would be good. but no one wants to know, so im posting this to let people know thats all, best wishes, clive

Sorry to hear about this.

At the moment I get it from both sides.

I get "oh no not a rebreather" conversations from the heathens even though I haven't got it yet, as well the congratulatory conversations from the wannabees and those who have a Rebreather.

I getting trained in June and hoping to have the unit then, so in August I will be looking in getting some hours up. I can show some shore diving along with UW Flora and Fauna of Sydney

There are others on the list who can help you.

When you ready to come to OZ, send a PM or put a posting up, we will let you know where to go.

No giving up.....

**Gill Envy** · 3rd May 2007, 23:02

L.A.D.Y.,
I pretty much ignored the whole thread, now that you have written this I went back over it. I don't know you and can not say if there is some deep hidden reason you were so racked over the coals. Sure there has been a Cedric contraversy, but wow, it seems that much of the usual protocal of threads was just let go. What a shame.

On a brighter note, let me give you a belated Welcome. I'm unclear what you are giving up, but if it's diving a meg, or rebreathers in general, or quitting your dive club or rebreather world I'd only recommend that you do your best to take a step back, take a few deep breaths and realize there is probably light at the end of the tunnel.

Everyone's voice ads to the value of rebreatherworld and it would be sad if you dropped out because of some untimely circumstances or potentially insulting hi-jacking of one of your firsts threads. If you are having a hard time finding dive buddies and you are showing up at OC dive club dives and getting turned away, don't take it personally, it's typical. Some OC dive clubs have a very negative impression of rebreathers. Find other rebreather divers to dive with... not always an easy task, there are not a lot of us out there.

maybe the best thing to do is just acknowledge that you got into something with a lot of enthusiasm and eagerness and that makes some people warry of you... time will pass, your experience will build and people drop their trips. It may be an uphill battle for now. My guess is that there are people who have hundreds of hours of OC experience who have no business getting into rebreathers, who's to say making the switch early on isn't doable... it's such an individual thing. On the other hand honestly consider if there is some truth to people's concerns then simply get more training if you think you need it, keep your first 100 hours on your unit well within your limits.... and don't forget to have fun! Whatever you do, don't take anything you read on the internet personally!

g

ps, and keep reminding people that LADY stands for something personal, this testosterone flush crowd will need a little explanation to get past the potential confusion... or changing your handle to something more universally palatable might break the ice a little faster.

Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive)

well lads, as my title goes, thats whats on my mind at the mo. not feeling sorry for myself but feeling quiet bad. ever since my thread, MOD1 COMPLETE WITH CEDRIC, well as all of you know how that one goes, things have gotten worse. now since i came back from trainning in thailand, my club dosent want to know, REBREATHERS, REBREATHERS, NO REBREATHERS, ive turned up at a number of dives since and was told, sorry clive have no one to dive with you, people look at me now like i have the pox.. in the last few weeks ive bought, a megaldon rebreather, an otter brittanic dry suit, vr3 amongst others and for what. i am heading away to OZ in august but christ i didnt think things would be like this before i head. my diving officer gave me a great appaulise when i gave a briefing on my unit to my club, " bail out ", and all so i thought it would be good. but no one wants to know, so im posting this to let people know thats all, best wishes, clive

diveladydive · 3rd May 2007, 23:33

Clive, try the IANTD website, IANTD IAND rebreathers Scuba Dive Training Agency Nitrox EANx Trimix Oxygen Rebreather Cave Wreck IANDT IAND decompression, scuba diver

for a list of Rebreather instructors in Ireland. They may not be in your exact locale, but chances are they can put you in touch with RB divers/operators who are OK with RBs in your area.

At the very least, visit sunny south Florida- we have a lot of Rebreather divers, many on megs, many on other systems.

Never give up!

das · 3rd May 2007, 23:49

There are 81 members on Rebreatherworld from Ireland. Try contacting a few of them for recomendations.

jo_c · 3rd May 2007, 23:52

Hey Clive
I take it this is a local dive club, not Bsac? I have some Bsac Rebreather contacts who might be able to give u some advice.

Nad · 3rd May 2007, 23:58

Are you kidding??!!!
I could understand just if you're trying tp cry on the Rebreather World shoulders, otherwise there's plenty of Rebreather divers up there.

However it isn't a good reason to givin'up: I'm almost the only one Rebreather diver in this side of Switzerland, I dive many time solo or with OC divers. What's wrong?! They will soon change idea... However it's not my problem anymore!

Best,

Nad

Evil Dolphin · 4th May 2007, 00:55

Been there done that. I've had more that one group treat me as some kind of an outcast. STUFF THEM.

Just post on this site, I'm sure there are other CCR divers out there. Or, you could move to Seattle. I'm trying to find a dive buddy for this weekend.

3rd May 2007, 21:28	#1 (permalink)
MrClive Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: cork city ireland Posts: 167	thinking of giving up well lads, as my title goes, thats whats on my mind at the mo. not feeling sorry for myself but feeling quiet bad. ever since my thread, MOD1 COMPLETE WITH CEDRIC, well as all of you know how that one goes, things have gotten worse. now since i came back from trainning in thailand, my club dosent want to know, REBREATHERS, REBREATHERS, NO REBREATHERS, ive turned up at a number of dives since and was told, sorry clive have no one to dive with you, people look at me now like i have the pox.. in the last few weeks ive bought, a megaldon rebreather, an otter brittanic dry suit, vr3 amongst others and for what. i am heading away to OZ in august but christ i didnt think things would be like this before i head. my diving officer gave me a great appaulise when i gave a briefing on my unit to my club, " bail out ", and all so i thought it would be good. but no one wants to know, so im posting this to let people know thats all, best wishes, clive __________________ clive
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3rd May 2007, 21:41	#2 (permalink)
PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 909	Re: thinking of giving up Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive) well lads, as my title goes, thats whats on my mind at the mo. not feeling sorry for myself but feeling quiet bad. ever since my thread, MOD1 COMPLETE WITH CEDRIC, well as all of you know how that one goes, things have gotten worse. now since i came back from trainning in thailand, my club dosent want to know, REBREATHERS, REBREATHERS, NO REBREATHERS, ive turned up at a number of dives since and was told, sorry clive have no one to dive with you, people look at me now like i have the pox.. in the last few weeks ive bought, a megaldon rebreather, an otter brittanic dry suit, vr3 amongst others and for what. i am heading away to OZ in august but christ i didnt think things would be like this before i head. my diving officer gave me a great appaulise when i gave a briefing on my unit to my club, " bail out ", and all so i thought it would be good. but no one wants to know, so im posting this to let people know thats all, best wishes, clive That's very strange. I never had a problem with finding buddies. Most of them were friends diving OC. What about looking outside your club?
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3rd May 2007, 21:46	#3 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,470	Re: thinking of giving up I asume you meen giving up the club and not giving up the rebreather? Barry (Bang on) is over in Ireland he should know a few turtle divers. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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3rd May 2007, 22:46	#4 (permalink)
almity1 No Viz is BAD Viz Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Optima Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 176	Re: thinking of giving up Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive) well lads, as my title goes, thats whats on my mind at the mo. not feeling sorry for myself but feeling quiet bad. ever since my thread, MOD1 COMPLETE WITH CEDRIC, well as all of you know how that one goes, things have gotten worse. now since i came back from trainning in thailand, my club dosent want to know, REBREATHERS, REBREATHERS, NO REBREATHERS, ive turned up at a number of dives since and was told, sorry clive have no one to dive with you, people look at me now like i have the pox.. in the last few weeks ive bought, a megaldon rebreather, an otter brittanic dry suit, vr3 amongst others and for what. i am heading away to OZ in august but christ i didnt think things would be like this before i head. my diving officer gave me a great appaulise when i gave a briefing on my unit to my club, " bail out ", and all so i thought it would be good. but no one wants to know, so im posting this to let people know thats all, best wishes, clive Sorry to hear about this. At the moment I get it from both sides. I get "oh no not a rebreather" conversations from the heathens even though I haven't got it yet, as well the congratulatory conversations from the wannabees and those who have a Rebreather. I getting trained in June and hoping to have the unit then, so in August I will be looking in getting some hours up. I can show some shore diving along with UW Flora and Fauna of Sydney There are others on the list who can help you. When you ready to come to OZ, send a PM or put a posting up, we will let you know where to go. No giving up..... __________________ Cheers almity1 - http://www.almity1.com
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3rd May 2007, 23:02	#5 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Diver Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,250	Re: thinking of giving up L.A.D.Y., I pretty much ignored the whole thread, now that you have written this I went back over it. I don't know you and can not say if there is some deep hidden reason you were so racked over the coals. Sure there has been a Cedric contraversy, but wow, it seems that much of the usual protocal of threads was just let go. What a shame. On a brighter note, let me give you a belated Welcome. I'm unclear what you are giving up, but if it's diving a meg, or rebreathers in general, or quitting your dive club or rebreather world I'd only recommend that you do your best to take a step back, take a few deep breaths and realize there is probably light at the end of the tunnel. Everyone's voice ads to the value of rebreatherworld and it would be sad if you dropped out because of some untimely circumstances or potentially insulting hi-jacking of one of your firsts threads. If you are having a hard time finding dive buddies and you are showing up at OC dive club dives and getting turned away, don't take it personally, it's typical. Some OC dive clubs have a very negative impression of rebreathers. Find other rebreather divers to dive with... not always an easy task, there are not a lot of us out there. maybe the best thing to do is just acknowledge that you got into something with a lot of enthusiasm and eagerness and that makes some people warry of you... time will pass, your experience will build and people drop their trips. It may be an uphill battle for now. My guess is that there are people who have hundreds of hours of OC experience who have no business getting into rebreathers, who's to say making the switch early on isn't doable... it's such an individual thing. On the other hand honestly consider if there is some truth to people's concerns then simply get more training if you think you need it, keep your first 100 hours on your unit well within your limits.... and don't forget to have fun! Whatever you do, don't take anything you read on the internet personally! g ps, and keep reminding people that LADY stands for something personal, this testosterone flush crowd will need a little explanation to get past the potential confusion... or changing your handle to something more universally palatable might break the ice a little faster. Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive) well lads, as my title goes, thats whats on my mind at the mo. not feeling sorry for myself but feeling quiet bad. ever since my thread, MOD1 COMPLETE WITH CEDRIC, well as all of you know how that one goes, things have gotten worse. now since i came back from trainning in thailand, my club dosent want to know, REBREATHERS, REBREATHERS, NO REBREATHERS, ive turned up at a number of dives since and was told, sorry clive have no one to dive with you, people look at me now like i have the pox.. in the last few weeks ive bought, a megaldon rebreather, an otter brittanic dry suit, vr3 amongst others and for what. i am heading away to OZ in august but christ i didnt think things would be like this before i head. my diving officer gave me a great appaulise when i gave a briefing on my unit to my club, " bail out ", and all so i thought it would be good. but no one wants to know, so im posting this to let people know thats all, best wishes, clive __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°> Last edited by Gill Envy : 3rd May 2007 at 23:05.
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3rd May 2007, 23:33	#6 (permalink)
diveladydive New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Optima Titan Pelagian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southeastern Florida Posts: 44	Re: thinking of giving up Clive, try the IANTD website, IANTD IAND rebreathers Scuba Dive Training Agency Nitrox EANx Trimix Oxygen Rebreather Cave Wreck IANDT IAND decompression, scuba diver for a list of Rebreather instructors in Ireland. They may not be in your exact locale, but chances are they can put you in touch with RB divers/operators who are OK with RBs in your area. At the very least, visit sunny south Florida- we have a lot of Rebreather divers, many on megs, many on other systems. Never give up! __________________ *Complacency: Self-satisfaction especially when accompanied by ignorance of actual dangers or deficiencies.* *Success: A journey in which the improbable becomes possible, leading to surprising levels of achievement.* *Dr. Peri M. Blum* *Normoxic CCR Instructor, IANTD* *Optima Instructor, IANTD* *Member, Board of Advisors, IANTD* *www.supremedivers.com* *561-901-9715* The opinions expressed herein are those of the author and the author’s alone. Last edited by diveladydive : 3rd May 2007 at 23:36.
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3rd May 2007, 23:49	#7 (permalink)
das New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 24	Re: thinking of giving up There are 81 members on Rebreatherworld from Ireland. Try contacting a few of them for recomendations.
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3rd May 2007, 23:52	#8 (permalink)
jo_c Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hants, UK Posts: 140	Re: thinking of giving up Hey Clive I take it this is a local dive club, not Bsac? I have some Bsac Rebreather contacts who might be able to give u some advice.
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3rd May 2007, 23:58	#9 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 941	Re: thinking of giving up Are you kidding??!!! I could understand just if you're trying tp cry on the Rebreather World shoulders, otherwise there's plenty of Rebreather divers up there. However it isn't a good reason to givin'up: I'm almost the only one Rebreather diver in this side of Switzerland, I dive many time solo or with OC divers. What's wrong?! They will soon change idea... However it's not my problem anymore! Best, Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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4th May 2007, 00:55	#10 (permalink)
Evil Dolphin New Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Puget Sound USA Posts: 28	Re: thinking of giving up Been there done that. I've had more that one group treat me as some kind of an outcast. STUFF THEM. Just post on this site, I'm sure there are other CCR divers out there. Or, you could move to Seattle. I'm trying to find a dive buddy for this weekend.
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