OMS Tesseract wing?

rogeringebo · 12th April 2007, 03:42

OMS Buoyancy Control Systems ( BC's ) http://www.OMSdive.com
Anyone tried this or even seen one live?
I like the idea with very little airspace in the top and more in the bottom to help the trim.

/Rodge

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 12th April 2007, 03:55

I believe that they had it at DEMA. I can't really say much more than that about it.

silent running · 12th April 2007, 05:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo)

OMS Buoyancy Control Systems ( BC's ) http://www.OMSdive.com
Anyone tried this or even seen one live?
I like the idea with very little airspace in the top and more in the bottom to help the trim.

/Rodge

Hi Rodge, you're right, any CCR wing is better off with the least amount of volume at the top. But, since most CCRs are shorter than an OC setup and have much more positive bouancy up top, it's best to keep the volume at the bottom of the wing out to the sides, not at the very bottom where it will get pinched while stowed on deck and also make stowing it less easy/stable.

I looked around for a long time to find another wing for my unit, one which was compact and had minimal volume up top. I went with the Zeagle 37lb elastic wing as per Oz Chris's recomendation. I wish it had some more elastic/retractors to pull in the widest points when empty, but I did have the most perfect horizontal trim ever with this wing, even in 5 ft of water. Hardly ever had any gas in it of course.

I looked at the Tesseract and saw it had a good distribution of volume, but still had the donut thing going on. My stock Prism wing is similar, but I got tired of having it bunched up under and wanted to streamline things. So far so good with the Zeagle.

All that being said, the Tesseract might be a good choice for any unit with more height, maybe with the Meg. But I can't understand why more wing makers aren't trying to make a wing with the volume low and closer to the body... -Andy

lbihler · 12th April 2007, 08:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running)

Hi Rodge, you're right, any CCR wing is better off with the least amount of volume at the top. But, since most CCRs are shorter than an OC setup and have much more positive bouancy up top, it's best to keep the volume at the bottom of the wing out to the sides, not at the very bottom where it will get pinched while stowed on deck and also make stowing it less easy/stable.
-Andy

Have a look at Halcyon CCR 35 Wing, it is kind of a triangle shape, looksz
ugly but well designed

***diverklondike*** · 12th April 2007, 11:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo)

OMS Buoyancy Control Systems ( BC's ) http://www.OMSdive.com
Anyone tried this or even seen one live?
I like the idea with very little airspace in the top and more in the bottom to help the trim.

/Rodge

At this point it apears to be "vaporware" similar to AP's BOV. I spoke with people from OMS at the BTW show a couple weeks back and they said that it was still in development..

M

**vidodivr** · 12th April 2007, 15:30

I have been waiting for it to come out and give it a try myself.

**Monkey** · 12th April 2007, 16:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by vidodivr)

I have been waiting for it to come out and give it a try myself.

was going to talk to PAT about this wing as well

chunter · 12th April 2007, 16:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike)

At this point it apears to be "vaporware" similar to AP's BOV. I spoke with people from OMS at the BTW show a couple weeks back and they said that it was still in development..

M

If it takes OMS this long to get a wing out, I wonder how long it will take for them to build the Grey Wolf rebreather

**trob09** · 12th April 2007, 16:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter)

If it takes OMS this long to get a wing out, I wonder how long it will take for them to build the Grey Wolf rebreather

[internal monologue] Should I pick at the scab? nah, just let it be...[/internal monolgoue]

silent running · 12th April 2007, 22:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by lbihler)

Have a look at Halcyon CCR 35 Wing, it is kind of a triangle shape, looksz
ugly but well designed

Thanks, I did look at it, but it doesnt have the elastic like the Zeagle, which pulls the wing in as it inflates. The Zeagle also has 2 pull dumps on each side, which makes getting water out easy. The Halcyon also looks a bit wider than the Zeagle, which would not be good. Anybody have measurements on the Halcyon 35? -Andy

12th April 2007, 03:42	#1 (permalink)
rogeringebo Done with bubbles Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 674	OMS Tesseract wing? OMS Buoyancy Control Systems ( BC's ) http://www.OMSdive.com Anyone tried this or even seen one live? I like the idea with very little airspace in the top and more in the bottom to help the trim. /Rodge
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12th April 2007, 03:55	#2 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 1,939	Re: OMS Tesseract wing? I believe that they had it at DEMA. I can't really say much more than that about it. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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12th April 2007, 05:29	#3 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,777	Re: OMS Tesseract wing? Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo) OMS Buoyancy Control Systems ( BC's ) http://www.OMSdive.com Anyone tried this or even seen one live? I like the idea with very little airspace in the top and more in the bottom to help the trim. /Rodge Hi Rodge, you're right, any CCR wing is better off with the least amount of volume at the top. But, since most CCRs are shorter than an OC setup and have much more positive bouancy up top, it's best to keep the volume at the bottom of the wing out to the sides, not at the very bottom where it will get pinched while stowed on deck and also make stowing it less easy/stable. I looked around for a long time to find another wing for my unit, one which was compact and had minimal volume up top. I went with the Zeagle 37lb elastic wing as per Oz Chris's recomendation. I wish it had some more elastic/retractors to pull in the widest points when empty, but I did have the most perfect horizontal trim ever with this wing, even in 5 ft of water. Hardly ever had any gas in it of course. I looked at the Tesseract and saw it had a good distribution of volume, but still had the donut thing going on. My stock Prism wing is similar, but I got tired of having it bunched up under and wanted to streamline things. So far so good with the Zeagle. All that being said, the Tesseract might be a good choice for any unit with more height, maybe with the Meg. But I can't understand why more wing makers aren't trying to make a wing with the volume low and closer to the body... -Andy Last edited by silent running : 12th April 2007 at 05:31.
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12th April 2007, 08:55	#4 (permalink)
lbihler New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangkok Posts: 56	Re: OMS Tesseract wing? Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running) Hi Rodge, you're right, any CCR wing is better off with the least amount of volume at the top. But, since most CCRs are shorter than an OC setup and have much more positive bouancy up top, it's best to keep the volume at the bottom of the wing out to the sides, not at the very bottom where it will get pinched while stowed on deck and also make stowing it less easy/stable. -Andy Have a look at Halcyon CCR 35 Wing, it is kind of a triangle shape, looksz ugly but well designed __________________ No Bubbles No Troubles ! Laurent Bihler - (http://www.tecevolution.com)
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12th April 2007, 11:08	#5 (permalink)
*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,462	Re: OMS Tesseract wing? Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo) OMS Buoyancy Control Systems ( BC's ) http://www.OMSdive.com Anyone tried this or even seen one live? I like the idea with very little airspace in the top and more in the bottom to help the trim. /Rodge At this point it apears to be "vaporware" similar to AP's BOV. I spoke with people from OMS at the BTW show a couple weeks back and they said that it was still in development.. M
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12th April 2007, 15:30	#6 (permalink)
vidodivr swims in fishes toilets Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida/Michigan Posts: 475	Re: OMS Tesseract wing? I have been waiting for it to come out and give it a try myself. __________________ Have a good one, Rob LaLonde CK #087 Narked@90 frame URM
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12th April 2007, 16:04	#7 (permalink)
Monkey Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lauderdale By The Sea Florida Posts: 343	Re: OMS Tesseract wing? Quote: (Originally Posted by vidodivr) I have been waiting for it to come out and give it a try myself. was going to talk to PAT about this wing as well
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12th April 2007, 16:39	#8 (permalink)
chunter I like diving Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Honolulu Posts: 463	Re: OMS Tesseract wing? Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike) At this point it apears to be "vaporware" similar to AP's BOV. I spoke with people from OMS at the BTW show a couple weeks back and they said that it was still in development.. M If it takes OMS this long to get a wing out, I wonder how long it will take for them to build the Grey Wolf rebreather __________________ "Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson "Hobgoblin is a cool word." - Charlie
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12th April 2007, 16:58	#9 (permalink)
trob09 . Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 686	Re: OMS Tesseract wing? Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter) If it takes OMS this long to get a wing out, I wonder how long it will take for them to build the Grey Wolf rebreather [internal monologue] Should I pick at the scab? nah, just let it be...[/internal monolgoue]
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12th April 2007, 22:18	#10 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,777	Re: OMS Tesseract wing? Quote: (Originally Posted by lbihler) Have a look at Halcyon CCR 35 Wing, it is kind of a triangle shape, looksz ugly but well designed Thanks, I did look at it, but it doesnt have the elastic like the Zeagle, which pulls the wing in as it inflates. The Zeagle also has 2 pull dumps on each side, which makes getting water out easy. The Halcyon also looks a bit wider than the Zeagle, which would not be good. Anybody have measurements on the Halcyon 35? -Andy
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