AZIMUTH CCR what do you think of it

Joseph Grech · 23rd July 2005, 20:47

Hello, I would like to have some feedback on the Azimuth rebreather in CCR mode. Up to now I have been diving my home made rebreather but recently I came across a brand new CCRat a very attractive price. Has anybody here converted it to a fully closed CCR ?

Joseph

***caveseeker7*** · 23rd July 2005, 21:02

Philippe Gerin has done an Azimuth CCR conversion .
And afaik Matty 'MHD' is working on one.

Pretty solid basics to start with, good scrubber.
With HH controls a lot like the Oh Tooptima, but nicer.

Philippe GERIN · 25th July 2005, 18:05

Hi Joseph.
As Stefan mentionned, I have transformed my Azimuth into a CCR with a Kiss O2 valve. Very nice to dive, especially with the ADV I could add at the time. This ADV is not available any more unfortunately.
Today, if I had to do it again, I'd do the same except for the Drager Oxygauge that I would change for a HS PO2meter or the new Kiss displays in addition to the VR3.
I was very happy with the unit: excellent trim, PO2 very stable, VERY good scrubber, excellente DSV. It's a very good unit except when traveling/flying. Then be ready to pay for extra luggage. That's the main reason that lead me to the Classic Kiss. Note that I do not regret it.
Best
Philippe

Joseph Grech · 26th July 2005, 06:47

Philippe, do you have any suggestions for the adv and is the unit only available with manual add only?
How about the scubber, I shall be using it in fairly warm water, what sort of time does it give in CCR ?

Philippe GERIN · 26th July 2005, 14:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by Joseph Grech)

Philippe, do you have any suggestions for the adv and is the unit only available with manual add only?

To my knowledge, the stock unit is only available with manual Diluent add Valve. But I didn't check in a long time, there could be an after market one now. Alternatively, you could find one of Bob's ADV and have it cloned if you know a good machine shop. It works with an Aqualung LPO reg mecanism.
Anyway, it works just as well with a manual valve. After all, Inspiration divers did it for a long time before Bob and then APD came out with an automatic one.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Joseph Grech)

How about the scubber, I shall be using it in fairly warm water, what sort of time does it give in CCR ?

I used to put the same time in CCR as in SCR mode in cold water after I had insulated the scrubber with a 5mm neoprene sheet. This is not needed in warm water.
Best
Philippe

montyg · 27th July 2005, 05:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by Philippe GERIN)

Alternatively, you could find one of Bob's ADV and have it cloned if you know a good machine shop. It works with an Aqualung LPO reg mecanism.
Philippe

Or you could just buy the machined part from Oxycheq (http://oxycheq.com/rebreather_sales.html) and fit the Aqualung LPO ...

rgds
monty

Philippe GERIN · 27th July 2005, 17:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by montyg)

Or you could just buy the machined part from Oxycheq (http://oxycheq.com/rebreather_sales.html) and fit the Aqualung LPO ...

rgds
monty

Nope, this one is a replacement T for the Inspo only. No T needed on the Azimuth and off course the threading is different. But the main body is the same size & shape. It's not practicle to start from this one and modify it.
Best
Philippe

23rd July 2005, 20:47	#1 (permalink)
Joseph Grech Joseph Grech Current Rebreather/s: Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 104	AZIMUTH CCR what do you think of it Hello, I would like to have some feedback on the Azimuth rebreather in CCR mode. Up to now I have been diving my home made rebreather but recently I came across a brand new CCRat a very attractive price. Has anybody here converted it to a fully closed CCR ? Joseph
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23rd July 2005, 21:02	#2 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,435	Philippe Gerin has done an Azimuth CCR conversion . And afaik Matty 'MHD' is working on one. Pretty solid basics to start with, good scrubber. With HH controls a lot like the Oh Tooptima, but nicer. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.'!"
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25th July 2005, 18:05	#3 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 633	Hi Joseph. As Stefan mentionned, I have transformed my Azimuth into a CCR with a Kiss O2 valve. Very nice to dive, especially with the ADV I could add at the time. This ADV is not available any more unfortunately. Today, if I had to do it again, I'd do the same except for the Drager Oxygauge that I would change for a HS PO2meter or the new Kiss displays in addition to the VR3. I was very happy with the unit: excellent trim, PO2 very stable, VERY good scrubber, excellente DSV. It's a very good unit except when traveling/flying. Then be ready to pay for extra luggage. That's the main reason that lead me to the Classic Kiss. Note that I do not regret it. Best Philippe
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26th July 2005, 06:47	#4 (permalink)
Joseph Grech Joseph Grech Current Rebreather/s: Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 104	Philippe, do you have any suggestions for the adv and is the unit only available with manual add only? How about the scubber, I shall be using it in fairly warm water, what sort of time does it give in CCR ?
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26th July 2005, 14:06	#5 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 633	Quote: (Originally Posted by Joseph Grech) Philippe, do you have any suggestions for the adv and is the unit only available with manual add only? To my knowledge, the stock unit is only available with manual Diluent add Valve. But I didn't check in a long time, there could be an after market one now. Alternatively, you could find one of Bob's ADV and have it cloned if you know a good machine shop. It works with an Aqualung LPO reg mecanism. Anyway, it works just as well with a manual valve. After all, Inspiration divers did it for a long time before Bob and then APD came out with an automatic one. Quote: (Originally Posted by Joseph Grech) How about the scubber, I shall be using it in fairly warm water, what sort of time does it give in CCR ? I used to put the same time in CCR as in SCR mode in cold water after I had insulated the scrubber with a 5mm neoprene sheet. This is not needed in warm water. Best Philippe
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27th July 2005, 05:42	#6 (permalink)
montyg Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 224	Quote: (Originally Posted by Philippe GERIN) Alternatively, you could find one of Bob's ADV and have it cloned if you know a good machine shop. It works with an Aqualung LPO reg mecanism. Philippe Or you could just buy the machined part from Oxycheq (http://oxycheq.com/rebreather_sales.html) and fit the Aqualung LPO ... rgds monty
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27th July 2005, 17:02	#7 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 633	Quote: (Originally Posted by montyg) Or you could just buy the machined part from Oxycheq (http://oxycheq.com/rebreather_sales.html) and fit the Aqualung LPO ... rgds monty Nope, this one is a replacement T for the Inspo only. No T needed on the Azimuth and off course the threading is different. But the main body is the same size & shape. It's not practicle to start from this one and modify it. Best Philippe
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