Scootering with a rebreather.

**Freef** · 24th February 2007, 21:24

I'm off for a play with a scooter in a couple of weeks, buddying a friend who is looking at buying a small one.

I can't think of anything in particular to be wary of, anyone any pointers? I have used scooters before on OC.

Thanks in advance.

O.C.Diver · 24th February 2007, 21:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by Freef)

I'm off for a play with a scooter in a couple of weeks, buddying a friend who is looking at buying a small one.

I can't think of anything in particular to be wary of, anyone any pointers? I have used scooters before on OC.

Thanks in advance.

You will be a little less aware of your buoyancy, until you stop.
If you are diving MCCR watch your PO2 as you will use significantly less O2.
Scooters are noisier when diving CCR, but then everything else is

Ted

chunter · 24th February 2007, 22:23

You may notice the drag from your hoses more. I find I often need to hold my DSV with one hand and the scooter with the other. It really depends on how long you are scootering continuously for, but jaw fatigue can be an issue.

Aloha,
Charlie

**hoppyinca** · 24th February 2007, 22:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter)

...drag from your hoses more... I often need to hold my DSV with one hand ... jaw fatigue can be an issue.

Aloha,
Charlie

You'll like this charlie...

unless of course you have cooper hoses!!!!! hee hee hee... did a scooter dive couple a weeks ago... most others commented on the "hose wobble" my DSV w/ cooper hoses, SOLID!!!

Hoppyinca

Andre · 24th February 2007, 23:36

Does it get better or worse using a FFM?
André

**UWSojourner** · 25th February 2007, 01:28

I've only done it once, but am planning on getting one.

But jaw fatique was absolutely an issue. Don't know exactly how you'd resolve it.

decoweenie · 25th February 2007, 02:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by UWSojourner)

But jaw fatique was absolutely an issue. Don't know exactly how you'd resolve it.

Make a chin rest for the DSV/BOV goes a long way to help jaw fatigue.

I scootered a lot with the KISS BOV, and had Gordon made me an extended SS bottom plate (look at the SS plate goes around the switch on bottom) to replace the original. Then bend the extended lip to fit your chin.

This puts the pressure on the chin when scootering and prevents the BOV from being rotated from your mouth.

Same idea could be applied to other BOV.

I am scootering with the Golem BOV now, and adding a small foam pad on the inside of the 2nd stage to rest the chin on.

**UWSojourner** · 25th February 2007, 04:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Make a chin rest for the DSV/BOV goes a long way to help jaw fatigue.

I am scootering with the Golem BOV now, and adding a small foam pad on the inside of the 2nd stage to rest the chin on.

Any pics of either? Still not clear what this would look like.

DZLHED · 25th February 2007, 04:58

I fit a Sea Cure mouthpiece to my Scott DSV and though my hoses get speed wobble when I scoot, it would take an act of God to pry the loop from my lips.

Hoppy scoots like a mad man!

chunter · 25th February 2007, 05:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by hoppyinca)

You'll like this charlie...

unless of course you have cooper hoses!!!!! hee hee hee... did a scooter dive couple a weeks ago... most others commented on the "hose wobble" my DSV w/ cooper hoses, SOLID!!!

Hoppyinca

Sweet, I'll look forward to getting mine in a couple of weeks

let me know when they come in

Thanks Bro!

24th February 2007, 21:24	#1 (permalink)
Freef Custom Title Disallowed! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Land of the Freef, UK. Posts: 1,356	Scootering with a rebreather. I'm off for a play with a scooter in a couple of weeks, buddying a friend who is looking at buying a small one. I can't think of anything in particular to be wary of, anyone any pointers? I have used scooters before on OC. Thanks in advance. __________________ David. Currently owner of two differently sized ankles.
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24th February 2007, 21:40	#2 (permalink)
O.C.Diver Helium Addict Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salisbury MD USA Summers; Wandering Florida Winters Posts: 213	Re: Scootering with a rebreather. Quote: (Originally Posted by Freef) I'm off for a play with a scooter in a couple of weeks, buddying a friend who is looking at buying a small one. I can't think of anything in particular to be wary of, anyone any pointers? I have used scooters before on OC. Thanks in advance. You will be a little less aware of your buoyancy, until you stop. If you are diving MCCR watch your PO2 as you will use significantly less O2. Scooters are noisier when diving CCR, but then everything else is Ted __________________ Consider this my opinion.......sometimes I'm even right, but remember.........YMMV. Ted Green Charter Boat "OC Diver" http://www.ocdiver.com
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24th February 2007, 22:23	#3 (permalink)
chunter I like diving Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Honolulu Posts: 463	Re: Scootering with a rebreather. You may notice the drag from your hoses more. I find I often need to hold my DSV with one hand and the scooter with the other. It really depends on how long you are scootering continuously for, but jaw fatigue can be an issue. Aloha, Charlie __________________ "Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson "Hobgoblin is a cool word." - Charlie
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24th February 2007, 22:46	#4 (permalink)
hoppyinca New Member Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA USA Posts: 250	Re: Scootering with a rebreather. Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter) ...drag from your hoses more... I often need to hold my DSV with one hand ... jaw fatigue can be an issue. Aloha, Charlie You'll like this charlie... unless of course you have cooper hoses!!!!! hee hee hee... did a scooter dive couple a weeks ago... most others commented on the "hose wobble" my DSV w/ cooper hoses, SOLID!!! Hoppyinca
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24th February 2007, 23:36	#5 (permalink)
Andre New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Switzerland, Aarau Posts: 133	Re: Scootering with a rebreather. Does it get better or worse using a FFM? André
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25th February 2007, 01:28	#6 (permalink)
UWSojourner Pacific Northwest Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 556	Re: Scootering with a rebreather. I've only done it once, but am planning on getting one. But jaw fatique was absolutely an issue. Don't know exactly how you'd resolve it.
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25th February 2007, 02:35	#7 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Scootering with a rebreather. Quote: (Originally Posted by UWSojourner) But jaw fatique was absolutely an issue. Don't know exactly how you'd resolve it. Make a chin rest for the DSV/BOV goes a long way to help jaw fatigue. I scootered a lot with the KISS BOV, and had Gordon made me an extended SS bottom plate (look at the SS plate goes around the switch on bottom) to replace the original. Then bend the extended lip to fit your chin. This puts the pressure on the chin when scootering and prevents the BOV from being rotated from your mouth. Same idea could be applied to other BOV. I am scootering with the Golem BOV now, and adding a small foam pad on the inside of the 2nd stage to rest the chin on. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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25th February 2007, 04:15	#8 (permalink)
UWSojourner Pacific Northwest Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 556	Re: Scootering with a rebreather. Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Make a chin rest for the DSV/BOV goes a long way to help jaw fatigue. I am scootering with the Golem BOV now, and adding a small foam pad on the inside of the 2nd stage to rest the chin on. Any pics of either? Still not clear what this would look like.
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25th February 2007, 04:58	#9 (permalink)
DZLHED Swimmin' upstream Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maui County, Hawaii Posts: 101	Re: Scootering with a rebreather. I fit a Sea Cure mouthpiece to my Scott DSV and though my hoses get speed wobble when I scoot, it would take an act of God to pry the loop from my lips. Hoppy scoots like a mad man! __________________ Aloha, Dieselhead To err is Human... to ccr, Divine. www.NorthShoreExplorers.com
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25th February 2007, 05:28	#10 (permalink)
chunter I like diving Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Honolulu Posts: 463	Re: Scootering with a rebreather. Quote: (Originally Posted by hoppyinca) You'll like this charlie... unless of course you have cooper hoses!!!!! hee hee hee... did a scooter dive couple a weeks ago... most others commented on the "hose wobble" my DSV w/ cooper hoses, SOLID!!! Hoppyinca Sweet, I'll look forward to getting mine in a couple of weeks let me know when they come in Thanks Bro! __________________ "Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson "Hobgoblin is a cool word." - Charlie
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