California Boat charters refusing rebreathers divers

WestMarine · 7th December 2006, 14:57

Hi

I've been hearing stories that there is a growing trend with California with scuba charter operator's who are now refusing to have rebreather divers on there boats do to past fatalities and liability issues. Has any one heard anything about this growing problem.

WestMarine

RebreatherDave · 7th December 2006, 15:05

Other than the Great Escape, what boats can you confirm do not allow rebreathers onboard?

Joe · 7th December 2006, 15:14

I don't know about Ca. but here in Fl. Miss Conduct (Conrad Nix) out of Pompano will not take out Rebreather divers.

Don't know how true it is but apparently a local instructor staged a massive CF on one of his charters and he now wants nothing to do with Rebreather's.

I guess the moral of the story is to dive responsibly and this type of thing won't happen.

Quote: (Originally Posted by RebreatherDave)

Other than the Great Escape, what boats can you confirm do not allow rebreathers onboard?

WestMarine · 7th December 2006, 15:25

Hi

I'm not sure what exact boats are not allowing rebreathers on board a friend of mine who I haven't been able to touch base with yet was refused and he was told that the charter association out west has a growing negative approach towards us rebreather divers. I will post more information as it comes along but thought maybe some one on the forum may have had some information on this.

Have a great day

Westmarine

**Gill Envy** · 7th December 2006, 15:34

this past june, my wife and i had a blast in monterey with cypress charters (http://www.cypresscharters.com/). they have a very beafy boat, capable of getting you out to the pinacles and other carmel sites when others were turning around because of the swell that is so common there...amazing diving! While they are mostly an OC operation they are quite familiar with our needs, were very helpful in helping us gear up. Gave us plenty of room. We made an extra effort to not be a pain in the ass, to take care of ourselves for the most part. We did not get to do really extended dives but they did help us time it so that we were the first in and last out. Average time was 60 minutes.

cys · 7th December 2006, 16:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy)

this past june, my wife and i had a blast in monterey with cypress charters (http://www.cypresscharters.com/). ... While they are mostly an OC operation they are quite familiar with our needs, were very helpful in helping us gear up.

One of the Cypress Sea captains, Captain Phil (who is also director of charter operations), is a rebreather instructor...

cys · 7th December 2006, 17:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by WestMarine)

Hi

I've been hearing stories that there is a growing trend with California with scuba charter operator's who are now refusing to have rebreather divers on there boats do to past fatalities and liability issues. Has any one heard anything about this growing problem.

WestMarine

The Great Escape is the most visible about it, actually having made an icon with an inspiration photo and a red circle and slash, placing it on their main web page with the statement that rebreathers are not permitted.

There was a thread on a socal diving board in the past week that two more boats had followed suit. One of the boats mentioned I am familiar with and I would be very surprised if they had many rebreather clients.

**Gill Envy** · 7th December 2006, 17:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by cys)

One of the Cypress Sea captains, Captain Phil (who is also director of charter operations), is a rebreather instructor...

phil was out of town while we were there, but i hear he is great to work with as well.

sddiverrob · 7th December 2006, 17:43

Just heard this week that the Bottom Scratcher out of Long Beach is no longer allowing Rebreather divers onboard.

cys · 7th December 2006, 18:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by sddiverrob)

Just heard this week that the Bottom Scratcher out of Long Beach is no longer allowing Rebreather divers onboard.

That was one of the one's that I heard about. The other boat I heard about was the Cee Ray.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy)

phil was out of town while we were there, but i hear he is great to work with as well.

He is indeed!

7th December 2006, 14:57	#1 (permalink)
WestMarine New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 33	California Boat charters refusing rebreathers divers Hi I've been hearing stories that there is a growing trend with California with scuba charter operator's who are now refusing to have rebreather divers on there boats do to past fatalities and liability issues. Has any one heard anything about this growing problem. WestMarine
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7th December 2006, 15:05	#2 (permalink)
RebreatherDave Maximum **** Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s:** Join Date: May 2005 Location: L.A., where the debris meets the sea Posts: 227	Re: California Boat charters refusing rebreathers divers Other than the Great Escape, what boats can you confirm do not allow rebreathers onboard?
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7th December 2006, 15:14	#3 (permalink)
Joe Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 240	Re: California Boat charters refusing rebreathers divers I don't know about Ca. but here in Fl. Miss Conduct (Conrad Nix) out of Pompano will not take out Rebreather divers. Don't know how true it is but apparently a local instructor staged a massive CF on one of his charters and he now wants nothing to do with Rebreather's. I guess the moral of the story is to dive responsibly and this type of thing won't happen. Quote: (Originally Posted by RebreatherDave) Other than the Great Escape, what boats can you confirm do not allow rebreathers onboard?
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7th December 2006, 15:25	#4 (permalink)
WestMarine New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 33	Re: California Boat charters refusing rebreathers divers Hi I'm not sure what exact boats are not allowing rebreathers on board a friend of mine who I haven't been able to touch base with yet was refused and he was told that the charter association out west has a growing negative approach towards us rebreather divers. I will post more information as it comes along but thought maybe some one on the forum may have had some information on this. Have a great day Westmarine
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7th December 2006, 15:34	#5 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Diver Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,250	Re: California Boat charters refusing rebreathers divers this past june, my wife and i had a blast in monterey with cypress charters (http://www.cypresscharters.com/). they have a very beafy boat, capable of getting you out to the pinacles and other carmel sites when others were turning around because of the swell that is so common there...amazing diving! While they are mostly an OC operation they are quite familiar with our needs, were very helpful in helping us gear up. Gave us plenty of room. We made an extra effort to not be a pain in the ass, to take care of ourselves for the most part. We did not get to do really extended dives but they did help us time it so that we were the first in and last out. Average time was 60 minutes. __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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7th December 2006, 16:56	#6 (permalink)
cys ck #157 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: S. California Posts: 201	Re: California Boat charters refusing rebreathers divers Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy) this past june, my wife and i had a blast in monterey with cypress charters (http://www.cypresscharters.com/). ... While they are mostly an OC operation they are quite familiar with our needs, were very helpful in helping us gear up. One of the Cypress Sea captains, Captain Phil (who is also director of charter operations), is a rebreather instructor...
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7th December 2006, 17:13	#7 (permalink)
cys ck #157 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: S. California Posts: 201	Re: California Boat charters refusing rebreathers divers Quote: (Originally Posted by WestMarine) Hi I've been hearing stories that there is a growing trend with California with scuba charter operator's who are now refusing to have rebreather divers on there boats do to past fatalities and liability issues. Has any one heard anything about this growing problem. WestMarine The Great Escape is the most visible about it, actually having made an icon with an inspiration photo and a red circle and slash, placing it on their main web page with the statement that rebreathers are not permitted. There was a thread on a socal diving board in the past week that two more boats had followed suit. One of the boats mentioned I am familiar with and I would be very surprised if they had many rebreather clients.
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7th December 2006, 17:39	#8 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Diver Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,250	Re: California Boat charters refusing rebreathers divers Quote: (Originally Posted by cys) One of the Cypress Sea captains, Captain Phil (who is also director of charter operations), is a rebreather instructor... phil was out of town while we were there, but i hear he is great to work with as well. __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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7th December 2006, 17:43	#9 (permalink)
sddiverrob New Member Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 79	Re: California Boat charters refusing rebreathers divers Just heard this week that the Bottom Scratcher out of Long Beach is no longer allowing Rebreather divers onboard. __________________ "Tech divers are the same all over the world..."
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7th December 2006, 18:27	#10 (permalink)
cys ck #157 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: S. California Posts: 201	Re: California Boat charters refusing rebreathers divers Quote: (Originally Posted by sddiverrob) Just heard this week that the Bottom Scratcher out of Long Beach is no longer allowing Rebreather divers onboard. That was one of the one's that I heard about. The other boat I heard about was the Cee Ray. Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy) phil was out of town while we were there, but i hear he is great to work with as well. He is indeed!
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