WKPP again

sannerman · 22nd May 2006, 13:04

I guess most of you alredy know about their latest dive, but could´t find any liks. So here are one:

http://tinyurl.com/e62rl

/Z

DrJM · 22nd May 2006, 13:44

For those of you not on Quest, new tunnel discovered in Wakulla.

-----Original Message-----
From: anthony rue
Sent: Monday, 22 May 2006 10:08 AM
To: quest@gue.com
Subject: Wakulla Update: 19-21 May 06

Just in case someone out there might be interested, here's a quick
update on this weekend's WKPP activities at Wakulla Springs. I'm sure
Casey and Mark Messersmith will have a full narrative once they've
had a few hours of sleep, but I've seen several notes today from
people interested in finding out how it went.

The weekend's dive was extremely rewarding. A crack team of support
divers began placing deco bottles on Friday afternoon so that the
breather teams could get an early start Saturday. Conditions were
similar to two weeks ago-- perhaps a bit more blue to the water, but
still murky with ~75' of vis in the basin. We started off at 6am
Saturday with approximately 25 in-water and surface support. The
extended range set-up team took off at 7am for another 7-to-7 dive.
JJ and Casey were over the ledge and into the cave just before 9am.
From 10am on, support divers took turns pulling shifts that put most
of them in the water for five to seven hours. I'll leave it to Mark's
report to give all the thanks, but I'll say that from this pesky
photographer's perspective I've never seen a more cohesive and
professional show by the team. It started with the surface managers
Hunter and Sonya, and extended through the friendly new surface
support. Fantastic job all around. I finally got a chance to talk to
JJ and Casey in the habitat at 1am Sunday morning, and I've never
seen either of them so amped up after such an extended dive--
especially with 5 more hours of deco to go. Here is Casey's outline
of the result:

Jarrod and Casey's Profile - 260ft for 410 minutes w/ 14 hours of
decompression. In at 9am Sat
and out at 6am Sunday. 5 scooters and 5 drive bottles.

Results - Q-Tunnel discovered off P-Tunnel at 17,000ft. 3,000ft of line
added for a total distance around 20,000ft. Monster sized cave
heading S-SW
towards Spring Creek and the Gulf of Mexico - 60ft floor to ceiling
and 75ft
wide in spots.

---

It has been a _long_ time since the team ran a 24 hour dive. Everyone
should be proud of the effort that went in to making it a success.
Get some sleep now that we have Q-Tunnel to map...

Also, the Tallahassee Democrat ran a story about the project on
Saturday morning. They've posted a nice quicktime video that shows a
quick inspection of a few of the flow meters-- be sure to click on
the media link on the right side of the article.

sannerman · 22nd May 2006, 14:01

Thanx DrJM,

And a question for you DrJM, when are we going to get to read your report from "Goul de Pont"? I´m dying to read it...

/Z

DrJM · 22nd May 2006, 14:14

I had a lot of problems with my computer, webserver etc ... I had to start it again from scratch

French report is online with photos

I'm away again for a while so when I'll be back english report should be ready, sorry about the delay

Jerome

sensor330 · 22nd May 2006, 15:25

Its to bad that this cave isn't open to the cave diving community as if it was I don't think there record would last very long. Hence probably one of the reasons its only available to the WKPP.

***caveseeker7*** · 22nd May 2006, 15:28

Thanks Jerome.

Concratulations to the WKPP for the successful dive.
Link to the Tallahassee Democrat's article about the WKPP dive.

DrJM · 22nd May 2006, 16:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330)

Its to bad that this cave isn't open to the cave diving community as if it was I don't think there record would last very long. Hence probably one of the reasons its only available to the WKPP.

That's funny I heard that somewhere else

A french team sponsored by the Comex was very interested last decade about pushing it after Bill Stone exploration, they did all the proper papers etc but NO WAY they were wearing helmets

Send them a Rick Stanton or a Gilberto Gimenez de Oliviera and they'll reach the Mexico Gulf

Well done anyway to the team !!!

I love the DIR tools ( I mean the S80, the DUI)

but I love my helmet

Jerome

sensor330 · 22nd May 2006, 16:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM)

That's funny I heard that somewhere else

A french team sponsored by the Comex was very interested last decade about pushing it after Bill Stone exploration, they did all the proper papers etc but NO WAY they were wearing helmets

Send them a Rick Stanton or a Gilberto Gimenez de Oliviera and they'll reach the Mexico Gulf

Well done anyway to the team !!!

I love the DIR tools ( I mean the S80, the DUI)

but I love my helmet

Jerome

I agree well done to the team! But what is the point of setting a record if nobody else is allowed to challange it.

***caveseeker7*** · 22nd May 2006, 17:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330)

But what is the point of setting a record if nobody else is allowed to challange it.

DIR is a failsafe system, that extends to their diving records.

Can't have some stroke break a record ...

Actually, as I understand it Wakulla Springs is a state park, under park administration and thus public land. I wonder if their non-WKPP ban would stand up in court. Imagine access to Yosemite's trails would be restricted to a few doesn't people ...

sensor330 · 22nd May 2006, 17:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

DIR is a failsafe system, that extends to their diving records.

Can't have some stroke break a record ...

Actually, as I understand it Wakulla Springs is a state park, under park administration and thus public land. I wonder if their non-WKPP ban would stand up in court. Imagine access to Yosemite's trails would be restricted to a few doesn't people ...

I just got back from Florida and I have to say a lot of the politics surrounding cave diving. I understand that cave conservation and safety is the reason for it. But I think there are some influential people in the inner circle who have personal agendas that have nothing to do with the advancement of cave diving or getting other systems open.

22nd May 2006, 13:04	#1 (permalink)
sannerman Let´s Go Down For a While Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 95	WKPP again I guess most of you alredy know about their latest dive, but could´t find any liks. So here are one: http://tinyurl.com/e62rl /Z __________________ Det är hårt på sjön, fast hårdare på land www.pagi.se
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22nd May 2006, 13:44	#2 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 336	Re: WKPP again For those of you not on Quest, new tunnel discovered in Wakulla. -----Original Message----- From: anthony rue Sent: Monday, 22 May 2006 10:08 AM To: quest@gue.com Subject: Wakulla Update: 19-21 May 06 Just in case someone out there might be interested, here's a quick update on this weekend's WKPP activities at Wakulla Springs. I'm sure Casey and Mark Messersmith will have a full narrative once they've had a few hours of sleep, but I've seen several notes today from people interested in finding out how it went. The weekend's dive was extremely rewarding. A crack team of support divers began placing deco bottles on Friday afternoon so that the breather teams could get an early start Saturday. Conditions were similar to two weeks ago-- perhaps a bit more blue to the water, but still murky with ~75' of vis in the basin. We started off at 6am Saturday with approximately 25 in-water and surface support. The extended range set-up team took off at 7am for another 7-to-7 dive. JJ and Casey were over the ledge and into the cave just before 9am. From 10am on, support divers took turns pulling shifts that put most of them in the water for five to seven hours. I'll leave it to Mark's report to give all the thanks, but I'll say that from this pesky photographer's perspective I've never seen a more cohesive and professional show by the team. It started with the surface managers Hunter and Sonya, and extended through the friendly new surface support. Fantastic job all around. I finally got a chance to talk to JJ and Casey in the habitat at 1am Sunday morning, and I've never seen either of them so amped up after such an extended dive-- especially with 5 more hours of deco to go. Here is Casey's outline of the result: Jarrod and Casey's Profile - 260ft for 410 minutes w/ 14 hours of decompression. In at 9am Sat and out at 6am Sunday. 5 scooters and 5 drive bottles. Results - Q-Tunnel discovered off P-Tunnel at 17,000ft. 3,000ft of line added for a total distance around 20,000ft. Monster sized cave heading S-SW towards Spring Creek and the Gulf of Mexico - 60ft floor to ceiling and 75ft wide in spots. --- It has been a _long_ time since the team ran a 24 hour dive. Everyone should be proud of the effort that went in to making it a success. Get some sleep now that we have Q-Tunnel to map... Also, the Tallahassee Democrat ran a story about the project on Saturday morning. They've posted a nice quicktime video that shows a quick inspection of a few of the flow meters-- be sure to click on the media link on the right side of the article. __________________ www.snoopyloop.com Deep Cave Exploration
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22nd May 2006, 14:01	#3 (permalink)
sannerman Let´s Go Down For a While Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 95	Re: WKPP again Thanx DrJM, And a question for you DrJM, when are we going to get to read your report from "Goul de Pont"? I´m dying to read it... /Z __________________ Det är hårt på sjön, fast hårdare på land www.pagi.se
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22nd May 2006, 14:14	#4 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 336	Re: WKPP again I had a lot of problems with my computer, webserver etc ... I had to start it again from scratch French report is online with photos I'm away again for a while so when I'll be back english report should be ready, sorry about the delay Jerome __________________ www.snoopyloop.com Deep Cave Exploration
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22nd May 2006, 15:25	#5 (permalink)
sensor330 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 549	Re: WKPP again Its to bad that this cave isn't open to the cave diving community as if it was I don't think there record would last very long. Hence probably one of the reasons its only available to the WKPP.
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22nd May 2006, 15:28	#6 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,325	Re: WKPP again Thanks Jerome. Concratulations to the WKPP for the successful dive. Link to the Tallahassee Democrat's article about the WKPP dive. __________________ Cheers Stefan "It is still a good day if you are on the green side of the grass! Su amigo Roberto!" Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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22nd May 2006, 16:40	#7 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 336	Re: WKPP again Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330) Its to bad that this cave isn't open to the cave diving community as if it was I don't think there record would last very long. Hence probably one of the reasons its only available to the WKPP. That's funny I heard that somewhere else A french team sponsored by the Comex was very interested last decade about pushing it after Bill Stone exploration, they did all the proper papers etc but NO WAY they were wearing helmets Send them a Rick Stanton or a Gilberto Gimenez de Oliviera and they'll reach the Mexico Gulf Well done anyway to the team !!! I love the DIR tools ( I mean the S80, the DUI) but I love my helmet Jerome __________________ www.snoopyloop.com Deep Cave Exploration
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22nd May 2006, 16:52	#8 (permalink)
sensor330 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 549	Re: WKPP again Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM) That's funny I heard that somewhere else A french team sponsored by the Comex was very interested last decade about pushing it after Bill Stone exploration, they did all the proper papers etc but NO WAY they were wearing helmets Send them a Rick Stanton or a Gilberto Gimenez de Oliviera and they'll reach the Mexico Gulf Well done anyway to the team !!! I love the DIR tools ( I mean the S80, the DUI) but I love my helmet Jerome I agree well done to the team! But what is the point of setting a record if nobody else is allowed to challange it.
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22nd May 2006, 17:02	#9 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,325	It's a DIR thing Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330) But what is the point of setting a record if nobody else is allowed to challange it. DIR is a failsafe system, that extends to their diving records. Can't have some stroke break a record ... Actually, as I understand it Wakulla Springs is a state park, under park administration and thus public land. I wonder if their non-WKPP ban would stand up in court. Imagine access to Yosemite's trails would be restricted to a few doesn't people ... __________________ Cheers Stefan "It is still a good day if you are on the green side of the grass! Su amigo Roberto!" Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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22nd May 2006, 17:13	#10 (permalink)
sensor330 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 549	Re: It's a DIR thing Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) DIR is a failsafe system, that extends to their diving records. Can't have some stroke break a record ... Actually, as I understand it Wakulla Springs is a state park, under park administration and thus public land. I wonder if their non-WKPP ban would stand up in court. Imagine access to Yosemite's trails would be restricted to a few doesn't people ... I just got back from Florida and I have to say a lot of the politics surrounding cave diving. I understand that cave conservation and safety is the reason for it. But I think there are some influential people in the inner circle who have personal agendas that have nothing to do with the advancement of cave diving or getting other systems open.
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