Here we go again,The Halcyon HID is dead again

rogeringebo · 31st March 2006, 18:22

They found the problem now......
Corrosion in the switch so that has to go.....
Have decided to go for the Metalsub 200....just need to sell this first when its taken care of....
Hopefully problems will end here...
Best
Rodge

Moray Brown · 8th October 2006, 17:39

Have got the Metalsub HID 200 and it's the dog's likcky bits!!

It kicks ass on UK dives where the viz is Akhmm "shit"

Wicked bit of kit

Cheers,

DS

sailordiver@msn.com · 8th October 2006, 19:40

My Halcyon 50W HIDs have been stone reliable for 200+ dives. I'd call them and have them take care of it. Sartek makes good HIDs up to 150W. Good luck...

Genesis · 9th October 2006, 00:30

I've got three Salvos - one "dive head" and two "video heads", with E/O cords so I can switch while on a single dive.

They've been stone reliable; I've done exactly nothing other than charge the batteries. I originally had the "little" BS bulbs and didn't like the flicker, so I upgraded them to the newer design.

They "just work".

Mark Chase · 9th October 2006, 07:08

Similar story with the Halcyon, but this time with flooding. Petes one flooded three times within a year from new and the last time was imediatly after coming back from repair and only at 30m.

He switched to the Matasub which he initialy liked but he now feels the battery pack is too heavy.

Personaly i have had a 10W halcyon for three years with the origional bulb and no problems apart from rusting stainles steel. It would apear all the problems are with the 18W product.

I now run a Salvo 18W bulb on a 21W balast and again it has never let me down. I keep the 10W as a back up torch.

ATB

Mark Chase

lizardland · 9th October 2006, 08:44

I had AUL torches for years, never had a problem apart from when one launched itself into a wall during a car crash and it shattered. So I replaced it with a used Halcyon Pro 14 HID that was up for sale at the time. What a piece of crap. It switches itself off at comedy moments, such as when my rebreather decided to flood or after carrying a load of kit to a cave entrance, it leaks (I've changed the o-rings, the switch boot and tried potting the cable and gland, still nothing helps) and as Mark says, the stainless screws and catches are rusting (despite generally being used in fresh). I only bought it because it was cheap but I'd never touch Halcyon kit again based on this.

6Gill · 9th October 2006, 14:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland)

I had AUL torches for years, never had a problem apart from when one launched itself into a wall during a car crash and it shattered. So I replaced it with a used Halcyon Pro 14 HID that was up for sale at the time. What a piece of crap. It switches itself off at comedy moments, such as when my rebreather decided to flood or after carrying a load of kit to a cave entrance, it leaks (I've changed the o-rings, the switch boot and tried potting the cable and gland, still nothing helps) and as Mark says, the stainless screws and catches are rusting (despite generally being used in fresh). I only bought it because it was cheap but I'd never touch Halcyon kit again based on this.

I have several buddies who have had a lot of problems with the Halcyon lights as well. I've had great luck with Sartek.

nmanfield · 9th October 2006, 19:43

slightly off topic I know, but I've got a custom divers 10watt HiD that I'm very happy with (with the large battery pack). Is it possible to boost the power to 18 or 20 watt. if so, could anyone give specific links to what i should buy?

I rarely dive more than 2 hours so battery life is not an issue (current battery life is over 4 hours on my CD Torch)

Thanks

Nick

willibo · 16th October 2006, 05:18

Hi. I have not seen a specific forum about lamps. If I am blind please tell me where it is. If I am not, could anyone please explain me what do I want in a lamp? I mean, I heard you talkin about burning temperature. Do I want it to be very hot o less hot? How many Kelvin? I want to start diving caves, which one would be a better one, 10W, 18W, 21W,25W, 50W,....? Which brand? Halcyon, Dive Rite, Sartek, ? Although, what i would really want to know is that about the burning temperature, the W , and the Lumen. Thanks.

jhaaja · 16th October 2006, 05:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by willibo)

Hi. I have not seen a specific forum about lamps. If I am blind please tell me where it is. If I am not, could anyone please explain me what do I want in a lamp? I mean, I heard you talkin about burning temperature. Do I want it to be very hot o less hot? How many Kelvin? I want to start diving caves, which one would be a better one, 10W, 18W, 21W,25W, 50W,....? Which brand? Halcyon, Dive Rite, Sartek, ? Although, what i would really want to know is that about the burning temperature, the W , and the Lumen. Thanks.

I can try to explain the terms

With burning temperature I think you mean color temperature. It defines the color of the light. If it is low (<3000K) the light will appear to be yellowish, if it is high (>4000K) the light appears to be more blu/white. The kelvin temperature refers to the radiation of the Black body in the same temp.

W = watt, the electrical power that the lamp consumes.

Lumen is the light current that the lanp can produce. The more lumens the more light the lamp will output.

Hope these help

JH

31st March 2006, 18:22	#21 (permalink)
rogeringebo Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 702	Re: Here we go again,The Halcyon HID is dead again They found the problem now...... Corrosion in the switch so that has to go..... Have decided to go for the Metalsub 200....just need to sell this first when its taken care of.... Hopefully problems will end here... Best Rodge
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8th October 2006, 17:39	#22 (permalink)
Moray Brown CCR Training - MR Diving Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WMUK Posts: 243	Re: Here we go again,The Halcyon HID is dead again Have got the Metalsub HID 200 and it's the dog's likcky bits!! It kicks ass on UK dives where the viz is Akhmm "shit" Wicked bit of kit Cheers, DS
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8th October 2006, 19:40	#23 (permalink)
sailordiver@msn.com New Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Venice, CA USA Posts: 51	Re: Here we go again,The Halcyon HID is dead again My Halcyon 50W HIDs have been stone reliable for 200+ dives. I'd call them and have them take care of it. Sartek makes good HIDs up to 150W. Good luck...
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9th October 2006, 00:30	#24 (permalink)
Genesis Bubbless Box of Death Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 1,397	Re: Here we go again,The Halcyon HID is dead again I've got three Salvos - one "dive head" and two "video heads", with E/O cords so I can switch while on a single dive. They've been stone reliable; I've done exactly nothing other than charge the batteries. I originally had the "little" BS bulbs and didn't like the flicker, so I upgraded them to the newer design. They "just work". __________________ "A venturesome minority will always be eager to get off on their own, and no obstacles should be placed in their path; let them take risks for Godsake, let them get lost, sunburnt, stranded, drowned, eaten by bears, buried alive under avalanches - that is the right and privilege of any free American." http://www.denninger.net http://www.diversunion.org/liability.htm - Fix the Diving Cert racket
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9th October 2006, 07:08	#25 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,700	Re: Here we go again,The Halcyon HID is dead again Similar story with the Halcyon, but this time with flooding. Petes one flooded three times within a year from new and the last time was imediatly after coming back from repair and only at 30m. He switched to the Matasub which he initialy liked but he now feels the battery pack is too heavy. Personaly i have had a 10W halcyon for three years with the origional bulb and no problems apart from rusting stainles steel. It would apear all the problems are with the 18W product. I now run a Salvo 18W bulb on a 21W balast and again it has never let me down. I keep the 10W as a back up torch. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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9th October 2006, 08:44	#26 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,305	Re: Here we go again,The Halcyon HID is dead again I had AUL torches for years, never had a problem apart from when one launched itself into a wall during a car crash and it shattered. So I replaced it with a used Halcyon Pro 14 HID that was up for sale at the time. What a piece of crap. It switches itself off at comedy moments, such as when my rebreather decided to flood or after carrying a load of kit to a cave entrance, it leaks (I've changed the o-rings, the switch boot and tried potting the cable and gland, still nothing helps) and as Mark says, the stainless screws and catches are rusting (despite generally being used in fresh). I only bought it because it was cheap but I'd never touch Halcyon kit again based on this. __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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9th October 2006, 14:48	#27 (permalink)
6Gill Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 112	Re: Here we go again,The Halcyon HID is dead again Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland) I had AUL torches for years, never had a problem apart from when one launched itself into a wall during a car crash and it shattered. So I replaced it with a used Halcyon Pro 14 HID that was up for sale at the time. What a piece of crap. It switches itself off at comedy moments, such as when my rebreather decided to flood or after carrying a load of kit to a cave entrance, it leaks (I've changed the o-rings, the switch boot and tried potting the cable and gland, still nothing helps) and as Mark says, the stainless screws and catches are rusting (despite generally being used in fresh). I only bought it because it was cheap but I'd never touch Halcyon kit again based on this. I have several buddies who have had a lot of problems with the Halcyon lights as well. I've had great luck with Sartek.
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9th October 2006, 19:43	#28 (permalink)
nmanfield Megalegalegalegadingdong! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Odessa, Ukraine Posts: 329	Re: Here we go again,The Halcyon HID is dead again slightly off topic I know, but I've got a custom divers 10watt HiD that I'm very happy with (with the large battery pack). Is it possible to boost the power to 18 or 20 watt. if so, could anyone give specific links to what i should buy? I rarely dive more than 2 hours so battery life is not an issue (current battery life is over 4 hours on my CD Torch) Thanks Nick __________________ Tub 'O Lard
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16th October 2006, 05:18	#29 (permalink)
willibo New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: México Posts: 35	Re: Here we go again,The Halcyon HID is dead again Hi. I have not seen a specific forum about lamps. If I am blind please tell me where it is. If I am not, could anyone please explain me what do I want in a lamp? I mean, I heard you talkin about burning temperature. Do I want it to be very hot o less hot? How many Kelvin? I want to start diving caves, which one would be a better one, 10W, 18W, 21W,25W, 50W,....? Which brand? Halcyon, Dive Rite, Sartek, ? Although, what i would really want to know is that about the burning temperature, the W , and the Lumen. Thanks. __________________ Shit Happens , stay focused! Willi
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16th October 2006, 05:46	#30 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 884	Re: Here we go again,The Halcyon HID is dead again Quote: (Originally Posted by willibo) Hi. I have not seen a specific forum about lamps. If I am blind please tell me where it is. If I am not, could anyone please explain me what do I want in a lamp? I mean, I heard you talkin about burning temperature. Do I want it to be very hot o less hot? How many Kelvin? I want to start diving caves, which one would be a better one, 10W, 18W, 21W,25W, 50W,....? Which brand? Halcyon, Dive Rite, Sartek, ? Although, what i would really want to know is that about the burning temperature, the W , and the Lumen. Thanks. I can try to explain the terms With burning temperature I think you mean color temperature. It defines the color of the light. If it is low (<3000K) the light will appear to be yellowish, if it is high (>4000K) the light appears to be more blu/white. The kelvin temperature refers to the radiation of the Black body in the same temp. W = watt, the electrical power that the lamp consumes. Lumen is the light current that the lanp can produce. The more lumens the more light the lamp will output. Hope these help JH
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