oms rebreather

Nemo1957

Gee is that what OMS told you????

rigdiver

So why did Faber cylinders sold through other distributors not have the problem? I've got 6 fabers flaking/Pitted/junk(OMS) and others in good shape. Didn't OMS loose a lawsuit over this? Do you remember OMS's original warranty on these cylinders? Does OMS want to talk about it?
Bill

mverick

Off topic but I have 4 of the OMS/fabers. And no problems. But, I dive in mostly fresh water. But there ain't a spec of rust on any of them. I do hose them off after a dive and not a one has boots on them.

rigdiver

I have 6 X 65 cu ft OMS/Fabers that never saw salt water and are peeling and pitted. OMS refuses to talk about it. I am the original owner.
Bill

mverick

All from the same batch?

I have 1 set of 108's white faber
1 set of 108's OMS
Both sets owned since new

1 set of 121's OMS
Bought used. Someone had spraybombed them with black it looks like.

I have a lot, as in 10 or so of the White painted HP fabers and 7 of the HP black painted fabers.

None have Rust at all.

Wonder if it was a batch problem.

rigdiver

All 65's from same batch. I have 125's with no problems. 112's X 5 with varying degrees of finish issues. Some worse than others, but not as bad as 65's. OMS rep on SB quit answering PM's. Hal Watts showed me the "letter" when OMS changed their warranty.

Dave Sutton

So...... what does any of this cylinder paint discomfort have to do with Dave's rebreather design, which has a *very* tenuous association with OMS? Let me get this straight: Your Faber steel cylinders look crappy after you took them in salt water and that affects a rebreather designed by someone else that was displayed in the same booth?



So.... Your cylinders are ugly. *All* painted cylinders get ugly eventually. Some sooner than others. Get over it, or stick to galvanized with no paint.

Having been an OMS dealer for years, and having them be a local business, let me say this: Cylinders are a loss leader for both distributor and dive shop. Nobody makes more than a few bucks on them... and nobody is going to give anyone a free one when they rust. My old orange 13's and 19's had shitty paint on them. A little sandpaper, a string to hang them by the neck and a spray paint can fixed that.


Back to rebreathers now? And betting dollars to donuts, if this rig ever comes to market, it'll not be sold by OMS...


Dave

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SeaBass

Dave,

How would you define this generation rebreather? Back mounted cansiter, over the shoulder counterlungs? Are you grouping the Inspiration, Meg, Prizim and Hammerhead in that group?

--SB

Dave Sutton

"Gen Next" will be a new paridigm... Dunno what else to predict: Cryogenic rebreathers? 100% failsafe designs? What we are using in "this" generation will seem "quaint" in 20-50 years. Right now all we're seeing is a re-hashing and re-mixing of the same old ingredients.... hardly different generations from each other.

All of the designs you cite above are of the same mold... just permutations on a design model. <yawn>. Show me someting *new*. Get me that soda lime-free cyrogenic scrubber that NASA designed and I'll be excited. It'll be here one day, mark my words. We're just "living thru the evolution" now.


Dave

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SeaBass

So what is holding back the evolution, technology or economics?

I would tend to lean toward economics since that is probably what is holding back the release of the OMS rebreather. Also you mentioned in another thread that the recreational diving market is rather small and cutting edge companies like Micropore are not in a big hurry to invest in such a small market.

Do the number of rebreather divers need to grow first? Small scale production leads to $10,000 rebreathers. I think there would eventually have to be a standardization of electronics, cells, fittings, hoses, scrubber sizes, canisters etc to enable larger scale production of either parts or complete systems to enable a wider acceptance of CCR diving?

Just some thoughts.

--SB