Gue debating use of eccr rebreathers?

**Freef** · 16th November 2007, 16:31

I agree that it's good to see DIR/GUE opening up the CCR debate. They have some good drills for doing the sort of dives that DIR/GUE historically trained for, and in the UK they are doing taster sessions for the unconverted masses.

I haven't been on one yet but would like to so I can fin backwards. I've been told the technique, but i just look like I am convulsing when I try it.

In the UK [and elsewhere] DIR/GUE have a bad reputation due to a minority of loudmouths.

jhaaja · 16th November 2007, 16:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by Freef)

I agree that it's good to see DIR/GUE opening up the CCR debate. They have some good drills for doing the sort of dives that DIR/GUE historically trained for, and in the UK they are doing taster sessions for the unconverted masses.

I haven't been on one yet but would like to so I can fin backwards. I've been told the technique, but i just look like I am convulsing when I try it.

In the UK [and elsewhere] DIR/GUE have a bad reputation due to a minority of loudmouths.

For that backwards kick you can come to my CMAS**-course

No need to go all DIR about that

netmage · 16th November 2007, 16:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by Freef)

I haven't been on one yet but would like to so I can fin backwards. I've been told the technique, but i just look like I am convulsing when I try it.

During DIR-F, most look as you describe, convulsing, monkey fu**ing a football, etc..... luckily at that level it is an introduction..., not a requirement. Practice makes perfect and eventually mine gel'd

-Tim

jhaaja · 16th November 2007, 17:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage)

During DIR-F, most look as you describe, convulsing, monkey fu**ing a football, etc..... luckily at that level it is an introduction..., not a requirement. Practice makes perfect and eventually mine gel'd

-Tim

Not a requirement? But it is a requirement on CMAS**

That is funny!

cameron · 16th November 2007, 17:53

Can you imagine the cost of a Halcyon CCR....

cam

mempilot · 16th November 2007, 18:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage)

During DIR-F, most look as you describe, convulsing, monkey fu**ing a football, etc..... luckily at that level it is an introduction..., not a requirement. Practice makes perfect and eventually mine gel'd

-Tim

Ja, but when you fin backwards, you just go in reverse circles like a French sh!t house rat.

decoweenie · 16th November 2007, 18:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by cameron)

Can you imagine the cost of a Halcyon CCR....

Never mind the cost of the Halcyon CCR unit, imagine how manyTech levels you have to take it...

The Rebreather-80 course has the prerequisites of DIR-F, Tech-1 and Tech-2. Adding the course fees, gases, logistics and travel, etc will cost more than the RB-80 itself...

gerstl_ossi · 16th November 2007, 19:32

Just the name DIR (Do I Rebreath????) says it all. DIR is interesting in rebreather.

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And I get some pics from the new DIR-Rebreather

, the new unit is not finished yet, but You can just see a lot of DIR-solutions..... the sticker for example

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

Was told today from a reliable source that currently theres some interest in re-debating use of rebreathers eccr as well a scr by the GUE boys at the moment -possibly some debate about this at the upcoming GUE conferance.

If its true cant see that they need to go eccr myself given their sucess with scr facilitated greatly i supsect by their endless source of willing tank stagers

and superb teamwork

Would be interesting debate none the less but i dont think the technology is really and safer or any further on that it was years ago.

same old crappy cells

Johnny Christensen · 16th November 2007, 19:45

Muhahahahaha... If a unit like that ever gets presented officially, I'm going to have so much fun with some of the local DIR followers here.

Btw. you left out a decal on the lid in pic no. 5

Marvintpa · 17th November 2007, 03:49

Not sure that it's possible to make the leap from the fact they're 'willing to debate it' to 'they're willing to adopt it', as several here seem to be attempting to do.

When I asked JJ about CCR's he didn't see the need for the added complexity (at least at that time, granted, that was several months ago). With their support crew doing what they do I'm not sure what kind of dive would require them to alter their thinking on CCR's, but hey, almost anything is possible.

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Freef Custom Title Disallowed! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Land of the Freef, UK. Posts: 1,356	Re: Gue debating use of eccr rebreathers? I agree that it's good to see DIR/GUE opening up the CCR debate. They have some good drills for doing the sort of dives that DIR/GUE historically trained for, and in the UK they are doing taster sessions for the unconverted masses. I haven't been on one yet but would like to so I can fin backwards. I've been told the technique, but i just look like I am convulsing when I try it. In the UK [and elsewhere] DIR/GUE have a bad reputation due to a minority of loudmouths. __________________ David. Currently owner of two differently sized ankles.
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16th November 2007, 16:39	#12 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 867	Re: Gue debating use of eccr rebreathers? Quote: (Originally Posted by Freef) I agree that it's good to see DIR/GUE opening up the CCR debate. They have some good drills for doing the sort of dives that DIR/GUE historically trained for, and in the UK they are doing taster sessions for the unconverted masses. I haven't been on one yet but would like to so I can fin backwards. I've been told the technique, but i just look like I am convulsing when I try it. In the UK [and elsewhere] DIR/GUE have a bad reputation due to a minority of loudmouths. For that backwards kick you can come to my CMAS**-course No need to go all DIR about that
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16th November 2007, 16:58	#13 (permalink)
netmage Hello Kitty...... Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coconut Creek, FL Posts: 321	Re: Gue debating use of eccr rebreathers? Quote: (Originally Posted by Freef) I haven't been on one yet but would like to so I can fin backwards. I've been told the technique, but i just look like I am convulsing when I try it. During DIR-F, most look as you describe, convulsing, monkey fu**ing a football, etc..... luckily at that level it is an introduction..., not a requirement. Practice makes perfect and eventually mine gel'd -Tim
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16th November 2007, 17:06	#14 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 867	Re: Gue debating use of eccr rebreathers? Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage) During DIR-F, most look as you describe, convulsing, monkey fuing a football, etc..... luckily at that level it is an introduction..., not a requirement. Practice makes perfect and eventually mine gel'd -Tim Not a requirement? But it is a requirement on CMAS That is funny!
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cameron Classic Kiss 124 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 241	Re: Gue debating use of eccr rebreathers? Can you imagine the cost of a Halcyon CCR.... cam __________________ Reclaim at work and CCR at home, life is good
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mempilot What is this..terrafirma? Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,098	Re: Gue debating use of eccr rebreathers? Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage) During DIR-F, most look as you describe, convulsing, monkey fuing a football, etc..... luckily at that level it is an introduction..., not a requirement. Practice makes perfect and eventually mine gel'd -Tim Ja, but when you fin backwards, you just go in reverse circles like a French sh!t house rat. __________________ MEM "Da Pilot" Black holes are where God divided by zero.** "If at first you don't succeed, don't dive silent." "Would you mind not shooting at the thermo-nuclear weapons." ~ Vic Deakins "Donkey's kill more people annually than plane crashes."
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16th November 2007, 18:34	#17 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,509	Re: Gue debating use of eccr rebreathers? Quote: (Originally Posted by cameron) Can you imagine the cost of a Halcyon CCR.... Never mind the cost of the Halcyon CCR unit, imagine how manyTech levels you have to take it... The Rebreather-80 course has the prerequisites of DIR-F, Tech-1 and Tech-2. Adding the course fees, gases, logistics and travel, etc will cost more than the RB-80 itself... Last edited by decoweenie : 17th November 2007 at 04:00.
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Johnny Christensen Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 296	Re: Gue debating use of eccr rebreathers? Muhahahahaha... If a unit like that ever gets presented officially, I'm going to have so much fun with some of the local DIR followers here. Btw. you left out a decal on the lid in pic no. 5 __________________ www.johnnychristensen.com Wreckphotography from the cold north Last edited by Johnny Christensen : 16th November 2007 at 19:48.
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17th November 2007, 03:49	#20 (permalink)
Marvintpa Bad knees, matching brain Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 224	Re: Gue debating use of eccr rebreathers? Not sure that it's possible to make the leap from the fact they're 'willing to debate it' to 'they're willing to adopt it', as several here seem to be attempting to do. When I asked JJ about CCR's he didn't see the need for the added complexity (at least at that time, granted, that was several months ago). With their support crew doing what they do I'm not sure what kind of dive would require them to alter their thinking on CCR's, but hey, almost anything is possible.
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