my Meg and Draeger FFM, sweet!

***Decodiver*** · 6th May 2006, 19:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB)

Hi Dave, could you please alaborate this more.
Where would you connect the Meg hoses? Do you mean with the NATO pod or as standard?

/Jonny

Might be talkin shite here Jon but dont the Meg hoses clamp straight onto the KM pod?

Dave.

JonnyB · 6th May 2006, 19:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

Might be talkin shite here Jon but dont the Meg hoses clamp straight onto the KM pod?

Dave.

Well Dave, yes and no!

If you use the scubapod, you can remove the mouthpiece on the DSV and replace it with the one on the pod, which is much softer and longer.

If you use the NATO pod, you order it and you pay extra 80USD to get the adaptor for your diameter of hoses. This will clamp on to any hose, Inspiration, Meg, KISS etc etc...

Atleast this is how i had it explained to me. I am still waiting to be able to get my NATO pod but with the Reg. or to use DrMike's sollution. I have yet to see it though. So Mike if you see this pics please....

/Jonny

RonMicjan · 7th May 2006, 00:35

my breathing hoses are clamped using a new prototype aluminum clamp, the production ones will be anodized with color. They have been on for about 6 months now and are working very well. Much prettier than the hose clamp and fabric cover IMHO. Leon has a KM mk48 with the NATO pod, built in bailout. I didnt look very hard at it, but maybe next week I can get some shots of it to post. My mask has the same high effort exaust for water, I push on the front of the mask and vent hard out my nose to drain water and snot. There must be a reason the spring is so tight, have to do some research. I dont mind it, Iknow i wont vent without knowing it! The field of view is less than my normal mask and a bit tough to look through the viewfinder of my SLR housing.

silent running · 7th May 2006, 02:14

Hello Ron, looks like a good, clean match. Thanks for posting the pix.

Questions though, the Nova mask lens is made of some type of plastic, right? Do you worry about scratching it? Can scratches be polished out/repaired? Or maybe the lens is replaceable? Sorry for the rapid fire ?s, but the idea of having to buy a whole new FFM if the lens gets s big scratch in it seems like it would be a drag. Scratching up a a $40 mask and buying a new one is one thing... Thanks, -Andy

paulraymaekers · 7th May 2006, 10:01

hello, valve-pressure: it is simply the OC mask being used for CCR: some-one from aqualung told me the masks are not yet used much for Rebreather, we are a bit... test-divers:-)

the lens is replacable by the user: costs +/- 40 euro at danshop germany

regards
paul

***Decodiver*** · 7th May 2006, 15:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan)

my breathing hoses are clamped using a new prototype aluminum clamp, the production ones will be anodized with color.

Ron,

Please let me know when these are available.

Cheers,

Dave.

***schford*** · 7th May 2006, 15:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

Ron,

Please let me know when these are available.

Cheers,

Dave.

Leon had them at DEMA - they looked super Sweet - which reminds me I am out to Seattle in 2 weeks so if any one wants something picking up form Europe then holler...

Stuart

silent running · 8th May 2006, 18:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers)

hello, valve-pressure: it is simply the OC mask being used for CCR: some-one from aqualung told me the masks are not yet used much for Rebreather, we are a bit... test-divers:-)

the lens is replacable by the user: costs +/- 40 euro at danshop germany

regards
paul

Hi Paul, thanks for the info. -Andy

RonMicjan · 8th May 2006, 20:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers)

hello, valve-pressure: it is simply the OC mask being used for CCR: some-one from aqualung told me the masks are not yet used much for Rebreather, we are a bit... test-divers:-)

the lens is replacable by the user: costs +/- 40 euro at danshop germany

regards
paul

sorry Paul, this mask is specifically for rebreathers, the difference is in the mouthpiece that projects inside the mask for the diver to grab and hold in the mask, this keeps the mask volume from becoming part of the loop and trapping CO2. dreager makes this mask in OC form as well as the CCR (or SCR) version. There is a specific DSV to use with the Ray or Dolphin (and probably the LAR-5 too) with the P -port on the diver end instead of a mouthpiece. Tell your Aqua lung rep he doesnt know what he is talking about. Good to know about the lens replacement though.

paulraymaekers · 8th May 2006, 20:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan)

sorry Paul, this mask is specifically for rebreathers, the difference is in the mouthpiece that projects inside the mask for the diver to grab and hold in the mask, this keeps the mask volume from becoming part of the loop and trapping CO2. dreager makes this mask in OC form as well as the CCR (or SCR) version. There is a specific DSV to use with the Ray or Dolphin (and probably the LAR-5 too) with the P -port on the diver end instead of a mouthpiece. Tell your Aqua lung rep he doesnt know what he is talking about. Good to know about the lens replacement though.

hello Ron, well I must admit the guy did not tell me it was the OC mask, but he told me the CCR nova is not used much at the moment and not much customer info has yet been returned (conc overpressure)
It was me who supposed that the only diff between both is the internal mouthpiece, and I supposed the overpressure valve is the same as for the OC version. ??? am I wrong here??
both (OC and CCR) have a P-port in front to either connect a second stage or the specific DSV (where you have to make a side-and-down shift with the lever to flush water out of the dsv) but only the CCR version has the 'bite-piece' that can shift toward and away from your mouth.

regards
paul

6th May 2006, 19:41	#11 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,179	Re: my Meg and Draeger FFM, sweet! Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB) Hi Dave, could you please alaborate this more. Where would you connect the Meg hoses? Do you mean with the NATO pod or as standard? /Jonny Might be talkin shite here Jon but dont the Meg hoses clamp straight onto the KM pod? Dave. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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6th May 2006, 19:44	#12 (permalink)
JonnyB Johnny The Hatch Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Titan Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 961	Re: my Meg and Draeger FFM, sweet! Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) Might be talkin shite here Jon but dont the Meg hoses clamp straight onto the KM pod? Dave. Well Dave, yes and no! If you use the scubapod, you can remove the mouthpiece on the DSV and replace it with the one on the pod, which is much softer and longer. If you use the NATO pod, you order it and you pay extra 80USD to get the adaptor for your diameter of hoses. This will clamp on to any hose, Inspiration, Meg, KISS etc etc... Atleast this is how i had it explained to me. I am still waiting to be able to get my NATO pod but with the Reg. or to use DrMike's sollution. I have yet to see it though. So Mike if you see this pics please.... /Jonny __________________ A quote from Crazyduck - In remembering our own Rob Davies. "Outbound flight 777 heavy you are cleared for flight Due west into that warm red Texas sunset You have angels on your wings and divers memories on your six." Rest In Peace http://www.divetekcyprus.com http://www.diveccr.com
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7th May 2006, 00:35	#13 (permalink)
RonMicjan Cap Ron scourge of the NW Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cape Disapointment, The Graveyard of the Pacific Posts: 1,083	Re: my Meg and Draeger FFM, sweet! my breathing hoses are clamped using a new prototype aluminum clamp, the production ones will be anodized with color. They have been on for about 6 months now and are working very well. Much prettier than the hose clamp and fabric cover IMHO. Leon has a KM mk48 with the NATO pod, built in bailout. I didnt look very hard at it, but maybe next week I can get some shots of it to post. My mask has the same high effort exaust for water, I push on the front of the mask and vent hard out my nose to drain water and snot. There must be a reason the spring is so tight, have to do some research. I dont mind it, Iknow i wont vent without knowing it! The field of view is less than my normal mask and a bit tough to look through the viewfinder of my SLR housing. __________________ Ron "Life is pain princess, anyone who tells you different, is selling something", The Dread Pirate Wesley. www.tmishop.com Diving bits etc.
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7th May 2006, 02:14	#14 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,813	Re: my Meg and Draeger FFM, sweet! Hello Ron, looks like a good, clean match. Thanks for posting the pix. Questions though, the Nova mask lens is made of some type of plastic, right? Do you worry about scratching it? Can scratches be polished out/repaired? Or maybe the lens is replaceable? Sorry for the rapid fire ?s, but the idea of having to buy a whole new FFM if the lens gets s big scratch in it seems like it would be a drag. Scratching up a a $40 mask and buying a new one is one thing... Thanks, -Andy
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7th May 2006, 10:01	#15 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,437	Re: my Meg and Draeger FFM, sweet! hello, valve-pressure: it is simply the OC mask being used for CCR: some-one from aqualung told me the masks are not yet used much for Rebreather, we are a bit... test-divers:-) the lens is replacable by the user: costs +/- 40 euro at danshop germany regards paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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7th May 2006, 15:02	#16 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,179	Re: my Meg and Draeger FFM, sweet! Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan) my breathing hoses are clamped using a new prototype aluminum clamp, the production ones will be anodized with color. Ron, Please let me know when these are available. Cheers, Dave. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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7th May 2006, 15:40	#17 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,673	Re: my Meg and Draeger FFM, sweet! Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) Ron, Please let me know when these are available. Cheers, Dave. Leon had them at DEMA - they looked super Sweet - which reminds me I am out to Seattle in 2 weeks so if any one wants something picking up form Europe then holler... Stuart __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of Rebreather World is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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8th May 2006, 18:25	#18 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,813	Re: my Meg and Draeger FFM, sweet! Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers) hello, valve-pressure: it is simply the OC mask being used for CCR: some-one from aqualung told me the masks are not yet used much for Rebreather, we are a bit... test-divers:-) the lens is replacable by the user: costs +/- 40 euro at danshop germany regards paul Hi Paul, thanks for the info. -Andy
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8th May 2006, 20:05	#19 (permalink)
RonMicjan Cap Ron scourge of the NW Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cape Disapointment, The Graveyard of the Pacific Posts: 1,083	Re: my Meg and Draeger FFM, sweet! Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers) hello, valve-pressure: it is simply the OC mask being used for CCR: some-one from aqualung told me the masks are not yet used much for Rebreather, we are a bit... test-divers:-) the lens is replacable by the user: costs +/- 40 euro at danshop germany regards paul sorry Paul, this mask is specifically for rebreathers, the difference is in the mouthpiece that projects inside the mask for the diver to grab and hold in the mask, this keeps the mask volume from becoming part of the loop and trapping CO2. dreager makes this mask in OC form as well as the CCR (or SCR) version. There is a specific DSV to use with the Ray or Dolphin (and probably the LAR-5 too) with the P -port on the diver end instead of a mouthpiece. Tell your Aqua lung rep he doesnt know what he is talking about. Good to know about the lens replacement though. __________________ Ron "Life is pain princess, anyone who tells you different, is selling something", The Dread Pirate Wesley. www.tmishop.com Diving bits etc.
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8th May 2006, 20:36	#20 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,437	Re: my Meg and Draeger FFM, sweet! Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan) sorry Paul, this mask is specifically for rebreathers, the difference is in the mouthpiece that projects inside the mask for the diver to grab and hold in the mask, this keeps the mask volume from becoming part of the loop and trapping CO2. dreager makes this mask in OC form as well as the CCR (or SCR) version. There is a specific DSV to use with the Ray or Dolphin (and probably the LAR-5 too) with the P -port on the diver end instead of a mouthpiece. Tell your Aqua lung rep he doesnt know what he is talking about. Good to know about the lens replacement though. hello Ron, well I must admit the guy did not tell me it was the OC mask, but he told me the CCR nova is not used much at the moment and not much customer info has yet been returned (conc overpressure) It was me who supposed that the only diff between both is the internal mouthpiece, and I supposed the overpressure valve is the same as for the OC version. ??? am I wrong here?? both (OC and CCR) have a P-port in front to either connect a second stage or the specific DSV (where you have to make a side-and-down shift with the lever to flush water out of the dsv) but only the CCR version has the 'bite-piece' that can shift toward and away from your mouth. regards paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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